In reply to Post #14
They were great, unfortunately the first lot I bought were seemingly the last ones left in a tackle shop in southern england.
They were great, unfortunately the first lot I bought were seemingly the last ones left in a tackle shop in southern england.
In reply to Post #14
Not the strongest hook, though you could get the continental version. I used them for open water floater fishing, but changed the hook after each fish. The first time I didn't, the hook snapped on the next fish.
Not the strongest hook, though you could get the continental version. I used them for open water floater fishing, but changed the hook after each fish. The first time I didn't, the hook snapped on the next fish.
In reply to Post #14
Partridge used to do a hook with an out barb. I believe VMC also do one.
Now it is a leap of faith, and many will shriek in horror because it's different, but this really is the best design of a hook from a practical point of view.
It will go in more smoothly, just like a barbless as there is no bump or ridge to pull into the fishes lip under pressure.
With the barb being on the "outside" of the hook there is no weight on that part of the hook so it will slide in easier.
Partridge used to do a hook with an out barb. I believe VMC also do one.
Now it is a leap of faith, and many will shriek in horror because it's different, but this really is the best design of a hook from a practical point of view.
It will go in more smoothly, just like a barbless as there is no bump or ridge to pull into the fishes lip under pressure.
With the barb being on the "outside" of the hook there is no weight on that part of the hook so it will slide in easier.
In reply to Post #14
Those Drennan Starpoints - popular and a bit different to the norm, I seem to remember being some issues with those snapping, probably a tempering issue perhaps ?
Most hook manufacturers experience it from time to time.
Those Drennan Starpoints - popular and a bit different to the norm, I seem to remember being some issues with those snapping, probably a tempering issue perhaps ?
Most hook manufacturers experience it from time to time.
In reply to Post #11
So I was reading it right, thought it best to check
All respect to LM there's no real relevance to showing us the nano penetrates before the micro, it's a foregone conclusion really. From my pov there's also no real relevance in the microbarb test, but it does make for interesting reading.
As someone has aready said a finer gauge hook would penetrate more easily, it's simple physics. The more resistance the more energy required to overcome it. The wider the gauge, the lesser the sweep angle of the barb, the width of the barb all make a difference, and if you knew those you in theory you'd know the results (he says...lol) There's a certain irony in that the effectiveness of the barb in holding is actually a hindrance in hooking.
I'd agree the nano barb would make the hook stay in place for longer compared to none barbed, again simply more resistance to coming out. What I'd question is whether it would make that much more of a difference, and if not, is it worth it for the extra damage it may cause espescially re what I said about depth of penetration, the nano barb would be going into areas the micro barb probably wouldn't when fully hooked.
So I was reading it right, thought it best to check
All respect to LM there's no real relevance to showing us the nano penetrates before the micro, it's a foregone conclusion really. From my pov there's also no real relevance in the microbarb test, but it does make for interesting reading.
As someone has aready said a finer gauge hook would penetrate more easily, it's simple physics. The more resistance the more energy required to overcome it. The wider the gauge, the lesser the sweep angle of the barb, the width of the barb all make a difference, and if you knew those you in theory you'd know the results (he says...lol) There's a certain irony in that the effectiveness of the barb in holding is actually a hindrance in hooking.
I'd agree the nano barb would make the hook stay in place for longer compared to none barbed, again simply more resistance to coming out. What I'd question is whether it would make that much more of a difference, and if not, is it worth it for the extra damage it may cause espescially re what I said about depth of penetration, the nano barb would be going into areas the micro barb probably wouldn't when fully hooked.
In reply to Post #19
I never had any problems with them apart from them becoming hard to obtain.
If they was available today I'd be using them, it's the only pattern I really have had confidence in along with the original Curve Shanks (Kamasan Carp Max) a pattern that everybody and their dog has copied.
I never had any problems with them apart from them becoming hard to obtain.
If they was available today I'd be using them, it's the only pattern I really have had confidence in along with the original Curve Shanks (Kamasan Carp Max) a pattern that everybody and their dog has copied.