Should be fine doing it yourself. Check room is square. Find centre of the room and then work back to see what gives you the biggest tile cut. Ie,if centre of room leaves you a small cut just move the line 400mill either way and start from there. If rooms out of square ping a chalk line down using the 3.4.5 square angle method. I've plumbed up off many tiled floors to put ceilings up. What's on the floor is the same above.
In reply to Post #9
My mate works on 50 quid a Sqm , but you want a grand a week so you just work it out to that roughly
My mate works on 50 quid a Sqm , but you want a grand a week so you just work it out to that roughly
In reply to Post #15
There's a massive difference between doing it as a diy'er and doing it professionally. Professional cutters and tile routers, diamond core drills and disc cutters all add up and then there's mixers and floats, laser levels etc. A rough estimate of my son's tools would be over 10k and then you'll need a van and all of this is consumable and needs replacing at some point and if you fail to budget for it you won't be in business long.
There's a massive difference between doing it as a diy'er and doing it professionally. Professional cutters and tile routers, diamond core drills and disc cutters all add up and then there's mixers and floats, laser levels etc. A rough estimate of my son's tools would be over 10k and then you'll need a van and all of this is consumable and needs replacing at some point and if you fail to budget for it you won't be in business long.
In reply to Post #18
The same could be said for any trade. I'm lucky in that I have most of that for my job as a diamond driller/cutter ,I don't have the tile router but do have the rest of the kit and it comes to nowhere near 10k, half that I'd say.
The same could be said for any trade. I'm lucky in that I have most of that for my job as a diamond driller/cutter ,I don't have the tile router but do have the rest of the kit and it comes to nowhere near 10k, half that I'd say.
In reply to Post #19
His wet cutter alone cost £2800 for the 1300mm and £900 for the small 600mm then another £500 for hand held routers and this is all without blades and core bits which start at £60 each for professional quality and go up over £200. He has been doing it successfully alongside his kitchen business for ten years now so knows exactly what the costs are. There is also less tiling work now that there was fifteen years ago as more people want glass slash backs especially in kitchens and bathrooms are going towards aqua panel walls vinyl floors.
His wet cutter alone cost £2800 for the 1300mm and £900 for the small 600mm then another £500 for hand held routers and this is all without blades and core bits which start at £60 each for professional quality and go up over £200. He has been doing it successfully alongside his kitchen business for ten years now so knows exactly what the costs are. There is also less tiling work now that there was fifteen years ago as more people want glass slash backs especially in kitchens and bathrooms are going towards aqua panel walls vinyl floors.
In reply to Post #20
If his core bits are starting at £60 then he's getting his pants pulled down mate, it's what I do for a living and have since the turn of the century so I know what they cost
If his core bits are starting at £60 then he's getting his pants pulled down mate, it's what I do for a living and have since the turn of the century so I know what they cost
In reply to Post #21
Diamond cores vary massively in quality and diamond content and I've got twenty years using them more experience than than . Try using cheap cores on porcelain tiles and see how long they last, I've used cheap ones that haven't cut one hole before burning out but then you should know that.
Diamond cores vary massively in quality and diamond content and I've got twenty years using them more experience than than . Try using cheap cores on porcelain tiles and see how long they last, I've used cheap ones that haven't cut one hole before burning out but then you should know that.
In reply to Post #22
Mate I'm fully aware of that, like I say I use them every day I'm at work. It's literally my job. But the thing is, what price you pay doesn't necessarily dictate the quality. The bits you buy from hire shops for instance, very expensive. Utter crap. If you go to a specialist supplier, you can buy the very best quality,and pay a lot less for them. Totally agree that the cheapy things anyone can go and buy splinter ,burn out and are absolutely a waste of money . Not worth the time to even order them. Anyway, we are digressing a lot from the op and his question, as he's asked about a one off job which he could do with a fairly low outlay on tooling when compared to setting up professionally. 2 very different things I'm sure you'd agree
If you let me know what sizes he uses and what drill he's turning them with I'll get him some prices next time I'm at our supplier if you want?
Mate I'm fully aware of that, like I say I use them every day I'm at work. It's literally my job. But the thing is, what price you pay doesn't necessarily dictate the quality. The bits you buy from hire shops for instance, very expensive. Utter crap. If you go to a specialist supplier, you can buy the very best quality,and pay a lot less for them. Totally agree that the cheapy things anyone can go and buy splinter ,burn out and are absolutely a waste of money . Not worth the time to even order them. Anyway, we are digressing a lot from the op and his question, as he's asked about a one off job which he could do with a fairly low outlay on tooling when compared to setting up professionally. 2 very different things I'm sure you'd agree
If you let me know what sizes he uses and what drill he's turning them with I'll get him some prices next time I'm at our supplier if you want?
In reply to Post #23
Don't forget (as a general information post..)
If you have an account at a supplier you will also get better discount rates than someone who is only going through 1 or 2 a year.
All trade suppliers work the same.
1 hole to cut then possibly better using the cheaper end of the market rather than sitting in a shed never to be used again
I always buy what I can afford rather than buy cheap
Don't forget (as a general information post..)
If you have an account at a supplier you will also get better discount rates than someone who is only going through 1 or 2 a year.
All trade suppliers work the same.
1 hole to cut then possibly better using the cheaper end of the market rather than sitting in a shed never to be used again
I always buy what I can afford rather than buy cheap
In reply to Post #24
Oh yeah of course, I know we are getting better prices for sure, but also people aren't necessarily aware of the suppliers either
Oh yeah of course, I know we are getting better prices for sure, but also people aren't necessarily aware of the suppliers either
In reply to Post #25
A quick story, there are tilers and then there are tilers, same as any trade. Had new kitchen etc, and the spark I've used for 15 years and whose opinion on other trades I trust 100%, asked who was laying our porcelain tiles, front door to back door. I told him who I was thinking of using, guy gets recommended on local FB page, I could tell by his face he wasn't impressed so he phoned another trade he knew and asked him if he would use the tiler id mentioned, other guy says no chance, him and the tiler play golf together too. The spark gave me a name and he did a fantastic job.
A quick story, there are tilers and then there are tilers, same as any trade. Had new kitchen etc, and the spark I've used for 15 years and whose opinion on other trades I trust 100%, asked who was laying our porcelain tiles, front door to back door. I told him who I was thinking of using, guy gets recommended on local FB page, I could tell by his face he wasn't impressed so he phoned another trade he knew and asked him if he would use the tiler id mentioned, other guy says no chance, him and the tiler play golf together too. The spark gave me a name and he did a fantastic job.
In reply to Post #26
Exactly and the thing with tiling is the job may look good on completion but if the preparation wasn't right and the correct adhesive, grout and sealants used it may not last long. Always ask a tradesman to give references that you can contact and many will be happy to show off their work but try and view jobs they have done in the past not just recent stuff that hasn't stood the test of time.
Exactly and the thing with tiling is the job may look good on completion but if the preparation wasn't right and the correct adhesive, grout and sealants used it may not last long. Always ask a tradesman to give references that you can contact and many will be happy to show off their work but try and view jobs they have done in the past not just recent stuff that hasn't stood the test of time.