More than a couple of nights this time of year it's a 2 man Aqua M2 with skin, but happy to do nights under a solar undercover brolly - the game changer was a Trakker 365 sleeping bag.
Always use a groundsheet tho, cant understand why you wouldn't. Bit like putting up the door if you want to as well 😂
Always use a groundsheet tho, cant understand why you wouldn't. Bit like putting up the door if you want to as well 😂
Frontier x+ (with inner capsule) and wrap super for winter time, Tempest wrap front: lol none
Or Armo v4 with inner capsule and overrwrap is also super.
Or Armo v4 with inner capsule and overrwrap is also super.
In reply to Post #17
I've done a couple of nights on just the sleeping bag and bedchair, no brolly or bivvy while fishing the river this winter. The umbrella has stayed in the car unless its raining.
I've also had the lake almost freeze over when I've been fishing.
I've done a couple of nights on just the sleeping bag and bedchair, no brolly or bivvy while fishing the river this winter. The umbrella has stayed in the car unless its raining.
I've also had the lake almost freeze over when I've been fishing.
Nash titan 2 for me with a skin around its near enough? Failing that I'll put a freezer suit on , not a fan of any sort of heating in a bivvy for the obvious? And knowing my luck I'd even blank at that 🤣
In reply to Post #19
Why
Why
In reply to Post #21
Why
Because I like fishing!
I drive from Suffolk to The Wensum in Norfolk, do a rove with the rod along a couple of stretches of river, then fish the car park swim overnight which the chub have often avoided during the day.
First thing in the morning, coffee, breakfast, then do the meadow stretch rove before driving home.
I say chub fishing, but I did see a couple of barbel along there, somewhere totally different from known areas, so they are a hope.
If I can avoid using a brolly to avoid attracting attention, then so much the better.
Why
Because I like fishing!
I drive from Suffolk to The Wensum in Norfolk, do a rove with the rod along a couple of stretches of river, then fish the car park swim overnight which the chub have often avoided during the day.
First thing in the morning, coffee, breakfast, then do the meadow stretch rove before driving home.
I say chub fishing, but I did see a couple of barbel along there, somewhere totally different from known areas, so they are a hope.
If I can avoid using a brolly to avoid attracting attention, then so much the better.
In reply to Post #22
You enjoy it so it's your choice but I can't think of anything worse tbh no shelter just a bed out in dark middle of winter I would use a bivvy with ground sheet at least
You enjoy it so it's your choice but I can't think of anything worse tbh no shelter just a bed out in dark middle of winter I would use a bivvy with ground sheet at least
In reply to Post #23
We have had only had a few really cold nights this winter, and my sleeping bag and cover is good to below freezing, so it's only if it rains I need a Brolly.
I have done a couple of nights on the lake this year, one when most of the lake froze over, and that was done in the extended bivvy and overwrap.
Warm clothing, decent bag.
We have had only had a few really cold nights this winter, and my sleeping bag and cover is good to below freezing, so it's only if it rains I need a Brolly.
I have done a couple of nights on the lake this year, one when most of the lake froze over, and that was done in the extended bivvy and overwrap.
Warm clothing, decent bag.
There is no warm bivvy in winter........if it's cold outside the bivvy, it will be cold inside the bivvy......
Get some quality clothing and you can sit under your brolly if you wish.......
Get some quality clothing and you can sit under your brolly if you wish.......
Buy a better sleeping bag
I was overnighting last month when it went down to 5 degrees so not really that cold.
3 season fortis bag, Edel Maya bed cover. Mat under bedchair, snugpak jacket as pillow / draft excluder. No shelter. Not cold at all quite comfortable.
3 season fortis bag, Edel Maya bed cover. Mat under bedchair, snugpak jacket as pillow / draft excluder. No shelter. Not cold at all quite comfortable.
In reply to Post #19
thx for reply's guys!
the bottom line is if you really enjoy the fishing in FREEZING conditions then just go, i did so early 80's through to 90's AND we did not have the warm kit you have today, HOWEVER i still enjoyed it!
i always remember the old bailiff coming around to my swim on an winters morning, and SHOCKED to discover i'd been there all night! as NOBODY (early80's) did it at that time!
also as someone mentioned its the health thing today, when your getting on...
re*"I've done a couple of nights on just the sleeping bag and bedchair, no brolly or bivvy while fishing the river this winter. The umbrella has stayed in the car unless its raining.
I've also had the lake almost freeze over when I've been fishing."*
Nick fair play, *BUT* don't know how old you are - if your late 50's + you may recollect this story...
a chap told me about this, i think it was published in the weekly angling press, in the 80's the famous angler John Sidley was fishing in the depths of winter similar to you in the above, and in the morning another angler found him in bad shape - he had to go to a phone box & get an ambulance out!
thx for reply's guys!
the bottom line is if you really enjoy the fishing in FREEZING conditions then just go, i did so early 80's through to 90's AND we did not have the warm kit you have today, HOWEVER i still enjoyed it!
i always remember the old bailiff coming around to my swim on an winters morning, and SHOCKED to discover i'd been there all night! as NOBODY (early80's) did it at that time!
also as someone mentioned its the health thing today, when your getting on...
re*"I've done a couple of nights on just the sleeping bag and bedchair, no brolly or bivvy while fishing the river this winter. The umbrella has stayed in the car unless its raining.
I've also had the lake almost freeze over when I've been fishing."*
Nick fair play, *BUT* don't know how old you are - if your late 50's + you may recollect this story...
a chap told me about this, i think it was published in the weekly angling press, in the 80's the famous angler John Sidley was fishing in the depths of winter similar to you in the above, and in the morning another angler found him in bad shape - he had to go to a phone box & get an ambulance out!
In reply to Post #28
Ya I did it early 80s too a thin tambor supplies bivvy thrown over nylon brolly Argos click click lounger in an x army bag ok when I was young no way now takes 5 mins to put a shelter up
Trying to be this bear grylls survival man there's really no point to it only risking health problems
Ya I did it early 80s too a thin tambor supplies bivvy thrown over nylon brolly Argos click click lounger in an x army bag ok when I was young no way now takes 5 mins to put a shelter up
Trying to be this bear grylls survival man there's really no point to it only risking health problems
In reply to Post #1
I have owned loads of different bivvies and brollies with different material types from different manufacturers and I can tell you they do vary greatly in regards to how good they are against condensation formation and their ability to stay dry inside. I don't buy the sentiment that they are all the same and a single skin will always give you the same result etc. Just look at footwear fabric, would you then tell me that all footwear is equal and will keep your feet dry in the same way, and will breath the same?
Other bivvies I had in the past that were great against condensation with a single skin were Trakker Armo Mk2
JRC TX2G (original) 25khh material version
This example in my post was the first time I can ever recall ever zipping the door right up since I've been night fishing for past 25yrs, reason being was that I was fishing during the really cold weather we had before Xmas when it got down to minus 7 and the lake did actually freeze solid over night (I did have the door and windows open) I was using my cyprinus typhoon. Due to all the pin holes in the fabric which i was in dispute with cyprinus over, the ice had melted during the day and dripped through and onto my bag which got damp which basically combined with the circulation issues and freezing temps I actually woke up to frost bite on 3 of my toes and was very lucky that the issue didn't progress further than loss of feeling for several months. I am just about getting back to normal feeling in them now but it has taken about 3 months. Anyway that did shake me up a little because the out come could have been a lot worse. This was an exceptional circumstance though cause you wouldn't Normally be fishing on a frozen lake.
so when I felt my toes getting cold again when it got to 0 I thought nah I'm not risking it and put the door up in the Pioneer. The change in temp was massive and I was toasty, no cold feet and no condensation. Probably unnecessary putting door up but like I say the incident had made me appreciate having both my feet let's say.
But yes secret to staying warm in winter is layers and staying dry. I always take 4 or 5 pares of smartwool socks with me on a 48hr session and change them regularly.
I have owned loads of different bivvies and brollies with different material types from different manufacturers and I can tell you they do vary greatly in regards to how good they are against condensation formation and their ability to stay dry inside. I don't buy the sentiment that they are all the same and a single skin will always give you the same result etc. Just look at footwear fabric, would you then tell me that all footwear is equal and will keep your feet dry in the same way, and will breath the same?
Other bivvies I had in the past that were great against condensation with a single skin were Trakker Armo Mk2
JRC TX2G (original) 25khh material version
This example in my post was the first time I can ever recall ever zipping the door right up since I've been night fishing for past 25yrs, reason being was that I was fishing during the really cold weather we had before Xmas when it got down to minus 7 and the lake did actually freeze solid over night (I did have the door and windows open) I was using my cyprinus typhoon. Due to all the pin holes in the fabric which i was in dispute with cyprinus over, the ice had melted during the day and dripped through and onto my bag which got damp which basically combined with the circulation issues and freezing temps I actually woke up to frost bite on 3 of my toes and was very lucky that the issue didn't progress further than loss of feeling for several months. I am just about getting back to normal feeling in them now but it has taken about 3 months. Anyway that did shake me up a little because the out come could have been a lot worse. This was an exceptional circumstance though cause you wouldn't Normally be fishing on a frozen lake.
so when I felt my toes getting cold again when it got to 0 I thought nah I'm not risking it and put the door up in the Pioneer. The change in temp was massive and I was toasty, no cold feet and no condensation. Probably unnecessary putting door up but like I say the incident had made me appreciate having both my feet let's say.
But yes secret to staying warm in winter is layers and staying dry. I always take 4 or 5 pares of smartwool socks with me on a 48hr session and change them regularly.
In reply to Post #28
Nick fair play, *BUT* don't know how old you are - if your late 50's + you may recollect this story...
a chap told me about this, i think it was published in the weekly angling press, in the 80's the famous angler John Sidley was fishing in the depths of winter similar to you in the above, and in the morning another angler found him in bad shape - he had to go to a phone box & get an ambulance out!
I remember that.
Early 50's me
I am right next to my car in the car park on the meadow, so if I do get cold I do have a safety net.
Nick fair play, *BUT* don't know how old you are - if your late 50's + you may recollect this story...
a chap told me about this, i think it was published in the weekly angling press, in the 80's the famous angler John Sidley was fishing in the depths of winter similar to you in the above, and in the morning another angler found him in bad shape - he had to go to a phone box & get an ambulance out!
I remember that.
Early 50's me
I am right next to my car in the car park on the meadow, so if I do get cold I do have a safety net.