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new Shimano ultegra 14000 xte or old Ci4+ xtd (35 posts / 16,682 views)
littleian littleian
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Post #16 4 Sep 2022 23:11
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Be interesting to see how these fair long term as of the new technologies from what i can see silent drive is effectively rubber o-rings that sit against the outside edge of the idle gears thus eliminating slack/noise in the idle gears. They have altered the design of one of the plastic idle gears which now has a captive edge. Theres now a bushing in the rotor nut but essentially the internal design doesn't differ that much from the previous ultegra Ci4's. I think the biggest problem with previous standard ultegras was the poorly designed line guard which could lift out of the runners, twist then if reeled down upon it puts massive pressure on the wormshaft and idle gears , shearing teeth in some cases although I've seen no Ci4 versions with this issue so fingers crossed they continue this trend.
dannyuk32 dannyuk32
Posts: 1,477
Post #17 5 Sep 2022 06:15
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Thanks - sounds encouraging.
Euroboybobbin Euroboybobbin
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Post #18 9 Sep 2022 08:57
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Have they sorted the clicker spool underneath yet??

Or is it the shambles of the previous ones???

Thx 🙏
Prutser Prutser
Posts: 3,097
Post #19 14 Sep 2022 10:30
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No problems so far....
Goose Goose
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Post #20 14 Sep 2022 10:43
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After defending the ultegra ci4's drag my 5500 started sticking last week so I ordered some ice washers which I've just fitted. The standard washer are neither carbon or felt, they are plastic so now wondering what's in my Technium 1200xtb mgs, will have to have a look.
Goose Goose
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Post #21 14 Sep 2022 10:46
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Prutser Prutser
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Post #22 14 Sep 2022 12:07
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Correct, the newer version has vilt...Mgs XTB have vilt also I think
Goose Goose
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Post #23 14 Sep 2022 13:16
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Strange thing is the ci4's aren't anywhere near as old as the tec's and the drag on them is silky smooth at the moment. The ultegra's were v good then suddenly turned snatch and one would stick after tightening to cast. Hope the ice washers sought it out but the fitting instructions says to leave them tightened down for 24 hours before use.
Beyonce
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Post #24 14 Sep 2022 13:48
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I use XTD Spod reels for boat fishing as they're tough, cheap and have good retrieve. As you say, the drag is sticky after you loosen a tight clutch. I put this down to them using cheap parts as it's a Spod reel, although I do use 14000 spools.

I've ordered a set of Weston caps to try on them.
carpy09 carpy09
Posts: 14,236
Post #25 14 Sep 2022 14:12
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If the drag is sticky on the XTD spod reel change the washers in the spool as they are the grease felt washers in them as standard put the future fishing ice washer in the spool in place of the grease felt washers will sort it out
Beyonce
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Post #26 14 Sep 2022 14:19
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Thanks for the heads up, the Weston caps come with carbon washers so I'll put those in. Happy to replace the standard cap to be honest, the plastic one that comes with the reel is cheap and nasty.

They will be a bit of a Frankenstein but the crank is great for pulling 8oz leads in 200m +
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #27 14 Sep 2022 14:30
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These are Teflon (PTFE) washers i preff them over ice/carbon washers.
Goose Goose
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Post #28 14 Sep 2022 15:18
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Felt in my techniums which are smooth and butter.
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zinno
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Post #29 14 Sep 2022 15:34
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Seems a big difference with the Xtd felt washers (the ones on the XTD are alot tinner) + The XTD and XTE spool is not waterproof so there is a chance that the felt washers can dries out
carpe_diem carpe_diem
Posts: 1,982
Post #30 14 Sep 2022 17:14
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I've kept the felt in my techs , super smooth with a good drag range adjustment
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