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Frozen and shelfies (195 posts / 10,069 views)
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #16 1 Jul 2022 18:03
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Think ive heard glycerine is used as a hook bait hardener
noj
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Social photographer... Post #17 1 Jul 2022 18:17
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Dynamite source was/probably still is 100% a better fish catcher in shelf life. God knows what but it has something...
scaley&dark
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Post #18 1 Jul 2022 18:58
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Bit like the original mainline hookbait enhancement dips
They were good at hardening hookbaits over time.

snapper1 snapper1
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Post #19 1 Jul 2022 19:12
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Canalcarper71 Canalcarper71
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Post #20 1 Jul 2022 20:01
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Second that caught a few on the source 17 plus years ago on a lake that was very deep
essesxandy essesxandy
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Post #21 1 Jul 2022 20:59
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Not really, Gary hasn't been a director of Nashbait for a long, long time, he's also been part time (development only) for some time now. I also trust him as a bloke and don't believe he's personally into the bullshine, least I've always found him straight talking.
ip100 ip100
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Post #22 1 Jul 2022 22:23
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It wasnt just Gary I meant mate, all have/had a vested interest with their respective companies. Shelf life's are obviously less agro to store/ship etc so they want more people to use them than fresh baits. Good business really. Can't beat a nice fresh bait though imo
Goose Goose
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Post #23 2 Jul 2022 00:16
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Freshly rolled, um maybe, how fresh is any boiled bait though, especially fishmeal.. Catch the fish and its near frozen in the trawler, landed and transported to processing factory, transported to distributor, sold to bait roller then on to customer. Not really fresh.
ip100 ip100
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Post #24 2 Jul 2022 01:33
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Splitting hairs a bit aren't you?
noj
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Social photographer... Post #25 2 Jul 2022 07:41
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Yep. Weed, silt and coloured water it always does well.
Surely it's not the same if robin red isn't the same though?
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #26 2 Jul 2022 08:02
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The key is in the first part of your post

"Freshly rolled" there is always a production process pre manufacturing.

you could say that about most "fresh" food products

28 day aged beef for instance, and dry aged alot longer under controlled conditions
scozza
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Post #27 2 Jul 2022 08:36
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Both have pros and cons for me.

Using a freezer bait is for that reason, optimum freshness and use within a few months. The texture is generally softer and for me digestibility is everything, basemix makeup obviously

Shelf life baits have no doubt come on a long way, I think they are brilliant for baiting up and keeping silver fish at bay but you have to question how long they have been sat on said shelf, things denature and lose nutriants
Beyonce
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Post #28 2 Jul 2022 08:53
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But assuming they use a preservative the ingredients cost of a shelf life is more and when they said it they sold for the same? Doubt it comes out much different overall.
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #29 2 Jul 2022 09:07
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I am lead to believe that freezing a bait can be beneficial as apposed to freshly rolled and used, am I right, I have all rhese things floating around that I may have read about , please help
Goose Goose
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Post #30 2 Jul 2022 09:17
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Lots of meats improve when aged as you know, fish however deteriorates as soon as its killed, I'm lucky to live next to the sea and can buy straight from the boat caught same day. Do bait companies know how old/fresh the products they are rolling into their fresh bait is? Is it traceable back to its origin?
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