I have to say, the constant downward spiral of threads into arguments, etc. is getting so dull to read... You expect a certain level of it on a forum but just lately it is constant and it is so boring to read, as well as ruins threads for people genuinely wanting to find out information
In reply to Post #14
Just had a look... It says it maintains a balanced amino profile.
In an oil.
The wonders of science, eh?
Just had a look... It says it maintains a balanced amino profile.
In an oil.
The wonders of science, eh?
In reply to Post #16
You'll forgive me for not doing something ( naming the actual companies ) thst he will then use to slag me off all over Facebook groups in his spare time. I run a bait company as my full time job, I enjoy it and am made privacy to things the likes of his ilk aren't, I can guarantee 90% of bait company owners silently agree with me lol.
I got the info on the rancid oils when I sent an enquired to a prospective new supplier, I arranged for samples and he asked which grade - human food - feed - technical . With the advice that technical shouldn't be used in the feed industry due to its rancid it's but that it was “ok for animals not in the food chain”. I told him I don't think technical would be alright in the U.K. due to the preference for nutritionally sensible baits and fresh ingredients and he immediately emailed back a list of people who regularly bought it.
Now I only have his word to go on but he has zero skin in the game with me and one of these companies actually had the nerve to claim it to be superior and of a food grade.
The irony of the matter is that when I received samples ( of the food grade ) it wasn't a very nice oil to be fair lol.
You'll forgive me for not doing something ( naming the actual companies ) thst he will then use to slag me off all over Facebook groups in his spare time. I run a bait company as my full time job, I enjoy it and am made privacy to things the likes of his ilk aren't, I can guarantee 90% of bait company owners silently agree with me lol.
I got the info on the rancid oils when I sent an enquired to a prospective new supplier, I arranged for samples and he asked which grade - human food - feed - technical . With the advice that technical shouldn't be used in the feed industry due to its rancid it's but that it was “ok for animals not in the food chain”. I told him I don't think technical would be alright in the U.K. due to the preference for nutritionally sensible baits and fresh ingredients and he immediately emailed back a list of people who regularly bought it.
Now I only have his word to go on but he has zero skin in the game with me and one of these companies actually had the nerve to claim it to be superior and of a food grade.
The irony of the matter is that when I received samples ( of the food grade ) it wasn't a very nice oil to be fair lol.
In reply to Post #18
In reply to Post #18
Mozzi ... how many digs can you take, mate ?
You´ve got loads of patience, i must admit Highlight of the day ... let´s gang up and wind up Mozzi Does get very irritating when the same group of lads cause upheaval, causing threads to die a sudden death. The ability to mouth the abundance of info available, digest what you deem valid, then spit out the rest, and finally, agree to disagree and move on to the next thread, seems very difficult for some
And ... back to the thread
Mozzi ... how many digs can you take, mate ?
You´ve got loads of patience, i must admit
Highlight of the day ... let´s gang up and wind up Mozzi Does get very irritating when the same group of lads cause upheaval, causing threads to die a sudden death. The ability to mouth the abundance of info available, digest what you deem valid, then spit out the rest, and finally, agree to disagree and move on to the next thread, seems very difficult for some And ... back to the thread
In reply to Post #6
I have some emails from a producer of salmon oil I can dig out when back at work.
Basically they don't guarantee much after it's opened and as mentioned light and oxygen are the enemies.
When you order in large you can decide if you want added anti oxidant.
I have some emails from a producer of salmon oil I can dig out when back at work.
Basically they don't guarantee much after it's opened and as mentioned light and oxygen are the enemies.
When you order in large you can decide if you want added anti oxidant.
In reply to Post #21
Des:
Shelf life for the unrefined salmon oil was said to by the producer to be 6 months in closed container.
This could be bettered by adding antioxidants (plant based)
Using an inert gas like nitrogen on argon in the opened container will decrease exposure to oxygen and can prolong the shelf life.
I use argon for some chemicals, this I got from the Swedish chain Jula where you can buy smaller bottles and suitable ventile.
Des:
Shelf life for the unrefined salmon oil was said to by the producer to be 6 months in closed container.
This could be bettered by adding antioxidants (plant based)
Using an inert gas like nitrogen on argon in the opened container will decrease exposure to oxygen and can prolong the shelf life.
I use argon for some chemicals, this I got from the Swedish chain Jula where you can buy smaller bottles and suitable ventile.
In reply to Post #20
His target audience didn't even acknowledge his comment lol, because he knows that I know lol.
When you have an direct way of voicing an opinion people don't like it, and everyone asks for evidence of any claim I make instead of looking for five minutes and finding it themselves haha.
There is some terrible ***** going on in the industry and just because some of these people are held in esteem, it makes it very hard for others to call them out, they're seen as pariahs for doing so. but if those who hold you in esteem don't have the knowledge to see you for who you are, its a very disingenuous regard to be held in.
Another bait maker on here makes reference to other firms all the time its just via messages, or indirect, and yet he'll jump on the band wagon when people start on me lol.
In a more positive outlook its seeing things getting spoken about, and concerns raised in public that gets other companies attention. when did you last see a fair and impartial review in ANY fishing magazine ? its only a few people on youtube who review stuff honestly. and if "mega carp monthly" says so and so's wares are top notch then the uninformed consume it en masse and BOOM. a reputation is born. then that reputation is referenced as some form of proxy reasoning as to why they wouldn't churn out complete pony products.
His target audience didn't even acknowledge his comment lol, because he knows that I know lol.
When you have an direct way of voicing an opinion people don't like it, and everyone asks for evidence of any claim I make instead of looking for five minutes and finding it themselves haha.
There is some terrible ***** going on in the industry and just because some of these people are held in esteem, it makes it very hard for others to call them out, they're seen as pariahs for doing so. but if those who hold you in esteem don't have the knowledge to see you for who you are, its a very disingenuous regard to be held in.
Another bait maker on here makes reference to other firms all the time its just via messages, or indirect, and yet he'll jump on the band wagon when people start on me lol.
In a more positive outlook its seeing things getting spoken about, and concerns raised in public that gets other companies attention. when did you last see a fair and impartial review in ANY fishing magazine ? its only a few people on youtube who review stuff honestly. and if "mega carp monthly" says so and so's wares are top notch then the uninformed consume it en masse and BOOM. a reputation is born. then that reputation is referenced as some form of proxy reasoning as to why they wouldn't churn out complete pony products.
In reply to Post #23
Mozzi :
We´re all players in the game, whether we like it or not Pants pulled down, but hopefully not by Jimmy Saville or Gary Glitter
Viking :
Top tip mate, will definately look into it next time i visit Jula about a mile away from me 
That´s why i tend to buy smaller bottles that get used up quickly, because of this rancidity phobia i have
Mozzi :
We´re all players in the game, whether we like it or not
Pants pulled down, but hopefully not by Jimmy Saville or Gary Glitter Viking :
Top tip mate, will definately look into it next time i visit Jula about a mile away from me
That´s why i tend to buy smaller bottles that get used up quickly, because of this rancidity phobia i have
In reply to Post #23
Personally, I think you're isolating yourself and using the publicity garnered to further your own career under the guise of a medical/mental condition which claims real sufferers.
Mosquito is an apt metaphor.
Personally, I think you're isolating yourself and using the publicity garnered to further your own career under the guise of a medical/mental condition which claims real sufferers.
Mosquito is an apt metaphor.
In reply to Post #25
Medical condition?
Medical condition?
In reply to Post #25
reply now, with how having an autistic spectrum disorder possibly further my career, when I dont even mention my company name? and how am I not a "real sufferer" exactly? who're you to judge how each persons autism effects them?!
reply now, with how having an autistic spectrum disorder possibly further my career, when I dont even mention my company name? and how am I not a "real sufferer" exactly? who're you to judge how each persons autism effects them?!
In reply to Post #27
You yourself mentioned the rationale behind your company name previously but I'll not waste my life searching for the post.
The victims card gets overplayed these days, it's becoming old hat.
You do,however, spend a lot of time insinuating other bait Co's use inferior goods yet without naming them,but claim 'insider' knowledge.
For the record,implicated arsebook chats mean zero to me.
You yourself mentioned the rationale behind your company name previously but I'll not waste my life searching for the post.
The victims card gets overplayed these days, it's becoming old hat.
You do,however, spend a lot of time insinuating other bait Co's use inferior goods yet without naming them,but claim 'insider' knowledge.
For the record,implicated arsebook chats mean zero to me.
In reply to Post #28
On the misleading bait thread ( of a company selling maize steep liquor as fish extract I think ) and a mate joked about my companies name sounding like something different, it was just a little nod as to why its called what it is.
And I didn't name the company.
Also, I'd certainly look at yourself before criticising my posts, you just make random offensive statements periodically and bring zero useful information to the forum.
In a separate issue I take with your response, people with high functioning autism can take a long time to come to terms with having a condition that others can't see / take into account. its not playing the victim to acknowledge where you might need support. its actually a really REALLY personal thing. I'm not a victim I'm just someone who's learn to live with and accept what can be a significantly difficult diagnosis to deal with. I don't want your sympathy, I pity you too much.
I genuinely hope you don't have contact with vulnerable people, your attitude is repugnant and would be extremely distressing to them.
On the misleading bait thread ( of a company selling maize steep liquor as fish extract I think ) and a mate joked about my companies name sounding like something different, it was just a little nod as to why its called what it is.
And I didn't name the company.
Also, I'd certainly look at yourself before criticising my posts, you just make random offensive statements periodically and bring zero useful information to the forum.
In a separate issue I take with your response, people with high functioning autism can take a long time to come to terms with having a condition that others can't see / take into account. its not playing the victim to acknowledge where you might need support. its actually a really REALLY personal thing. I'm not a victim I'm just someone who's learn to live with and accept what can be a significantly difficult diagnosis to deal with. I don't want your sympathy, I pity you too much.
I genuinely hope you don't have contact with vulnerable people, your attitude is repugnant and would be extremely distressing to them.
In reply to Post #24
Now that I only make carp bait for myself I get 0.5 or 1 litre bottles from the pet shop.
Overpriced, but with a sell by date and the shop owner is a carp angler and we got a "bait for ingredients program" going on.
Mozzi, just ignore the clown. Probably another profile from someone already known.
Now that I only make carp bait for myself I get 0.5 or 1 litre bottles from the pet shop.
Overpriced, but with a sell by date and the shop owner is a carp angler and we got a "bait for ingredients program" going on.
Mozzi, just ignore the clown. Probably another profile from someone already known.