In reply to Post #16
Nope, if someone has bought it they're only being honest to say it has it in. It's literally the main attraction for other companies using his flavours is his name sells. I'm not convinced his flavours are hugely special, rather just more concentrated. I'm a liquid food proponent myself and think flavours belong in kids sweets 🤪
Nope, if someone has bought it they're only being honest to say it has it in. It's literally the main attraction for other companies using his flavours is his name sells. I'm not convinced his flavours are hugely special, rather just more concentrated. I'm a liquid food proponent myself and think flavours belong in kids sweets 🤪
Isn't it law that you have to put a list of what's being used in products on the packaging now ? If so then no one is breaking any rules
In reply to Post #16
100%. Why any company would want their name associated with a product that;
a: They have no idea what else is included alongside their products
b: They have zero control of overall quality of product or service
c: They cannot guarantee said product even contains their product.
That's standard business practice in any walk of life unless there is a commercial agreement between brands. I'm not sure why this has come as such a shock.
That is not to say i think JB should stop people using his flavours in commercial baits, however he has every right to request his name is not used without permission in my opinion.
100%. Why any company would want their name associated with a product that;
a: They have no idea what else is included alongside their products
b: They have zero control of overall quality of product or service
c: They cannot guarantee said product even contains their product.
That's standard business practice in any walk of life unless there is a commercial agreement between brands. I'm not sure why this has come as such a shock.
That is not to say i think JB should stop people using his flavours in commercial baits, however he has every right to request his name is not used without permission in my opinion.
In reply to Post #19
What your referring to is around claims on labelling and packaging. When you can state certain claims on the product.
A example that i have seen - Walkers Crisp using Marmite as a flavour. You don't have to buy the flavour from Marmite to call it this, you just to have permission from them to use the name. On the flip side you can get the flavour from Marmite but if they don't want you to use their name you cant call it a Marmite flavoured crisp. instead you would call it a 'yeast extract spread flavour' or something similar... this prevents you from any legal repercussions.
I'm not fully versed on it myself (only done a few courses) but have sat in enough meetings where this has been discussed at length to understand it.
It all comes down to brand protection for the businesses involved.
What your referring to is around claims on labelling and packaging. When you can state certain claims on the product.
A example that i have seen - Walkers Crisp using Marmite as a flavour. You don't have to buy the flavour from Marmite to call it this, you just to have permission from them to use the name. On the flip side you can get the flavour from Marmite but if they don't want you to use their name you cant call it a Marmite flavoured crisp. instead you would call it a 'yeast extract spread flavour' or something similar... this prevents you from any legal repercussions.
I'm not fully versed on it myself (only done a few courses) but have sat in enough meetings where this has been discussed at length to understand it.
It all comes down to brand protection for the businesses involved.
In reply to Post #20
Just wondering how you're fishing the marmite crisps..? Popped up with a bit of foam maybe?
Just wondering how you're fishing the marmite crisps..? Popped up with a bit of foam maybe?
In reply to Post #21
It was the best analogy i could think of at the time.
I'm working and we supply yeast to marmite and we had just been discussing a pick up as i read the post.
And if i did fish them it would definitely be a floater set up.... ive had one off the top with a pickeled onion space invader in my youth.
It was the best analogy i could think of at the time.
I'm working and we supply yeast to marmite and we had just been discussing a pick up as i read the post.
And if i did fish them it would definitely be a floater set up.... ive had one off the top with a pickeled onion space invader in my youth.
In reply to Post #20
Marmite is a registered brand name.
Therefore you (or me) cannot sell another similar product and call it ‘Marmite'. We probably wouldn't get away with ‘marmight' either.
Has JB registered the name ‘JB Plum' (or whichever of his flavours you are concerned about) ? I somewhat doubt it but I'm happy to stand corrected.
Yes he almost certainly has an ‘exclusive' on sourcing that actual flavour - but that is not the same as a registered trade name.
AND there are loads of people called John Baker in this world. And even more called JB.
Maybe JB Plumbz would solve the problem.
Marmite is a registered brand name.
Therefore you (or me) cannot sell another similar product and call it ‘Marmite'. We probably wouldn't get away with ‘marmight' either.
Has JB registered the name ‘JB Plum' (or whichever of his flavours you are concerned about) ? I somewhat doubt it but I'm happy to stand corrected.
Yes he almost certainly has an ‘exclusive' on sourcing that actual flavour - but that is not the same as a registered trade name.
AND there are loads of people called John Baker in this world. And even more called JB.
Maybe JB Plumbz would solve the problem.
In reply to Post #23
His ala salar is as you say a "registered brand name" aka a trade mark
for clarity i'm not concerned about any of this
in terms of marmite/ marmight comment - look at the colin the caterpillar escapade.
the post you referenced wasn't exactly about trade marks and wording - it was about making claims on labelling and packaging. The point being you do need permission to use a name on a product to make a claim.
His ala salar is as you say a "registered brand name" aka a trade mark
for clarity i'm not concerned about any of this
in terms of marmite/ marmight comment - look at the colin the caterpillar escapade.
the post you referenced wasn't exactly about trade marks and wording - it was about making claims on labelling and packaging. The point being you do need permission to use a name on a product to make a claim.
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