In reply to Post #15
oh wind it in Scoot we don't need another thread ruined. he mentioned glm oil, which is only used in carping when inherently present in the full fat meal. it is too cost prohibitive to do otherwise. so no, there is no actual liquified extract of glm on the market currently. possibly a home
made version if someone hydrolyses the actual mussel meat but that too would be cost prohibitive Id imagine
oh wind it in Scoot we don't need another thread ruined. he mentioned glm oil, which is only used in carping when inherently present in the full fat meal. it is too cost prohibitive to do otherwise. so no, there is no actual liquified extract of glm on the market currently. possibly a home
made version if someone hydrolyses the actual mussel meat but that too would be cost prohibitive Id imagine
In reply to Post #14
sorry, I didnt read this before replying above, mussell waste will be broken ones, ones of the wrong size or too much rope on them / barnacles etc.
yeah human beings have cosmetic criteria for molluscs now
sorry, I didnt read this before replying above, mussell waste will be broken ones, ones of the wrong size or too much rope on them / barnacles etc.
yeah human beings have cosmetic criteria for molluscs now
In reply to Post #17
Any reason why mussel protein hydrolysate is not a thing when mussels are plentiful when farmed, sustainable and relatively cheap vs say squid from Argentina, krill etc?
I guess you have to get them out the shell for starters
Any reason why mussel protein hydrolysate is not a thing when mussels are plentiful when farmed, sustainable and relatively cheap vs say squid from Argentina, krill etc?
I guess you have to get them out the shell for starters
In reply to Post #18
Guessing it would be a lot more labour intensive, takes me three quarters of an hour to eat enough from the shells for a reasonable snack.
Guessing it would be a lot more labour intensive, takes me three quarters of an hour to eat enough from the shells for a reasonable snack.
In reply to Post #19
They are lovely though.
They are lovely though.
In reply to Post #18
not necessarily. you could use a material crusher to smash the shell on mussels into a sort of agregate material then use that as base material.
Ive played abotu with crayfish hydro, after freezing them to humanely dispatch I put them through a meat mincer with just the spindle in the centre, crackes everything open, just need to sieve it afterwards and it doesnt keep as well .
not necessarily. you could use a material crusher to smash the shell on mussels into a sort of agregate material then use that as base material.
Ive played abotu with crayfish hydro, after freezing them to humanely dispatch I put them through a meat mincer with just the spindle in the centre, crackes everything open, just need to sieve it afterwards and it doesnt keep as well .
In reply to Post #21
Probably best not to post that on an open forum as a business in case DEFRA read it!
Probably best not to post that on an open forum as a business in case DEFRA read it!
In reply to Post #22
Never went anywhere near a U.K. water source? Was just seeing if it could be done. Didn't last more than 2 months in the fridge.
Although I'd bet that freezing and enzymatic hydrolysis laid waste to any potential eggs 😂
Never went anywhere near a U.K. water source? Was just seeing if it could be done. Didn't last more than 2 months in the fridge.
Although I'd bet that freezing and enzymatic hydrolysis laid waste to any potential eggs 😂
In reply to Post #21
the amount of crays you need for bait is ridiculous, bulk it with fishmeal and call it crayfish
the amount of crays you need for bait is ridiculous, bulk it with fishmeal and call it crayfish
In reply to Post #24
Strained off I reckon you could replace 25% of egg with that hydro, I reckon it'd do the do especially in waters where they are abundant.
Could be a nice little ecological set up lol
Strained off I reckon you could replace 25% of egg with that hydro, I reckon it'd do the do especially in waters where they are abundant.
Could be a nice little ecological set up lol
In reply to Post #25
i doubt you'd get 25% out of them, especially considering the H2o content of flesh
i doubt you'd get 25% out of them, especially considering the H2o content of flesh
Around 5 years ago I got loads of signal Crays given, mate was netting the owners lake, he had a license, had the freezer full, found them rubbish myself in all forms 
In reply to Post #23
Might be hard to explain that to DEFRA that a bait co is going through the cost and aggro of hydrolysing crays, but then not taking it anywhere near water. The law actually says “.....the use of crayfish as bait in any form is illegal, as even dead and liquidised signals can continue to carry crayfish plague.” No mention of processing it to a “safe” state. Especially when you say it would “do the do”
Just saying 🤷🏻♀️
Might be hard to explain that to DEFRA that a bait co is going through the cost and aggro of hydrolysing crays, but then not taking it anywhere near water. The law actually says “.....the use of crayfish as bait in any form is illegal, as even dead and liquidised signals can continue to carry crayfish plague.” No mention of processing it to a “safe” state. Especially when you say it would “do the do”
Just saying 🤷🏻♀️
In reply to Post #26
What? 😂 I'm saying of the finished hydro, you could use up to about 75-125ml per kilo replacing a lot of the egg.
Once your hydrolysis is done you can reduce the moisture content of your hydro
What? 😂 I'm saying of the finished hydro, you could use up to about 75-125ml per kilo replacing a lot of the egg.
Once your hydrolysis is done you can reduce the moisture content of your hydro
In reply to Post #28
Nothing to do with my company. And nothing to do with defra I got them from a friend who has a company selling love ones to tge food trade, whether those are farmed or from rivers I'm not sure, I'm just saying I think crayfish hydrolysate would be an ideal use for them.
Remember hydros aren't just used in fishing, they are used in animal feeds, fish feeds, fertiliser etc.
Not sure what your angle is but I can't be bothered to bite
Nothing to do with my company. And nothing to do with defra I got them from a friend who has a company selling love ones to tge food trade, whether those are farmed or from rivers I'm not sure, I'm just saying I think crayfish hydrolysate would be an ideal use for them.
Remember hydros aren't just used in fishing, they are used in animal feeds, fish feeds, fertiliser etc.
Not sure what your angle is but I can't be bothered to bite