Another decent cylinder make is Primus, again around £5.50 to £5.99 per can. I was given a couple of cans after I lent a couple to a mate
Wow camping have these back in stock £23 for 6
In reply to Post #16
Primus is the best I've used. It works as normal right up untill the end, and empties completely.
Lemco is a close second, and then NGT, and Coleman are the worst. They seem to start playing up with 1/3rd the gas still left.
Primus is the best I've used. It works as normal right up untill the end, and empties completely.
Lemco is a close second, and then NGT, and Coleman are the worst. They seem to start playing up with 1/3rd the gas still left.
I'm now done with Coleman. Around Xmas I binned a stove because I thought it was knackered and damaging the valves, brand new Gravity III and they are doing exactly the same. I'll make do with what I have left and then it's Primus for me. May cost more but the Coleman is awful now😰
In reply to Post #18
I never knew these suffered
I have loads of half used cans thinking i had a knackered stove
I'm gonna go and buy a different brand and re check the stove
I never knew these suffered
I have loads of half used cans thinking i had a knackered stove
I'm gonna go and buy a different brand and re check the stove
In reply to Post #20
The last box of coleman I have been using has been dreadful.I think I will give the primus a try
The last box of coleman I have been using has been dreadful.I think I will give the primus a try
I've ordered the primus from funky leisure today
12x the large tins of gas for £67 so about the same as the Coleman
I too as below find that once 1/3 empty it gets hardly any pressure and have turned the tins on their side to get more out.
If the promis works better I shall be reverting over to them from now on
12x the large tins of gas for £67 so about the same as the Coleman
I too as below find that once 1/3 empty it gets hardly any pressure and have turned the tins on their side to get more out.
If the promis works better I shall be reverting over to them from now on
In reply to Post #21
The way to use up the gas in the Coleman canisters is to warm them up with some warmed water.
Even upside down the gas does not work properly, yet in the saucepan of water it does come out.
I mentioned Primus, they are a very good canister. I honestly did not know I had run out until the stove went out, there was no pressure loss last week.
As I have said, stick to GoSystem or Primus.
In reply to Post #18
I never knew these suffered
I have loads of half used cans thinking i had a knackered stove
I'm gonna go and buy a different brand and re check the stove
I'm now done with Coleman. Around Xmas I binned a stove because I thought it was knackered and damaging the valves, brand new Gravity III and they are doing exactly the same. I'll make do with what I have left and then it's Primus for me. May cost more but the Coleman is awful now😰
Post #20
The last box of coleman I have been using has been dreadful.I think I will give the primus a try
The way to use up the gas in the Coleman canisters is to warm them up with some warmed water.
Even upside down the gas does not work properly, yet in the saucepan of water it does come out.
I mentioned Primus, they are a very good canister. I honestly did not know I had run out until the stove went out, there was no pressure loss last week.
As I have said, stick to GoSystem or Primus.
In reply to Post #18
I never knew these suffered
I have loads of half used cans thinking i had a knackered stove
I'm gonna go and buy a different brand and re check the stove
I'm now done with Coleman. Around Xmas I binned a stove because I thought it was knackered and damaging the valves, brand new Gravity III and they are doing exactly the same. I'll make do with what I have left and then it's Primus for me. May cost more but the Coleman is awful now😰
Post #20
The last box of coleman I have been using has been dreadful.I think I will give the primus a try
In reply to Post #23
It's not just using them up Nick. Some people have been getting ill through leaking valves. 1 of mine decided to set alight at the valve and it ended up getting booted, lucky I was sat outside as it was only a day session. On the backpacking sites there is info regarding Coleman changing the valves to just suit their own brand. This does seem far fetched but there is too much proof in the recent past to not believe something has changed and it is dangerous.
It's not just using them up Nick. Some people have been getting ill through leaking valves. 1 of mine decided to set alight at the valve and it ended up getting booted, lucky I was sat outside as it was only a day session. On the backpacking sites there is info regarding Coleman changing the valves to just suit their own brand. This does seem far fetched but there is too much proof in the recent past to not believe something has changed and it is dangerous.
Interesting statement Glen
I replaced my Primus stove Hose about 4 years ago because I could smell gas I'm wondering now if it was the actual gas canisters that was at fault ???
My Primus stove with the new hose is ok now so wondering if it was the hose or canister
I replaced my Primus stove Hose about 4 years ago because I could smell gas I'm wondering now if it was the actual gas canisters that was at fault ???
My Primus stove with the new hose is ok now so wondering if it was the hose or canister
In reply to Post #25
Have a look bud, it thought it was just me. Unfortunately over the last 6 months and a few instances since November it is becoming more common place😰
Have a look bud, it thought it was just me. Unfortunately over the last 6 months and a few instances since November it is becoming more common place😰
In reply to Post #26
I've been smelling gas in my brew kit bag. Using Coleman gas. I used to leave the stove connected to the canister and put it down to this, I've started disconnecting them now and it seems to have stopped.
I've also had issues getting the last 20% out of the can. The pressure drops right off while there is seemingly plenty left. Appears they're sh*te.
I've been smelling gas in my brew kit bag. Using Coleman gas. I used to leave the stove connected to the canister and put it down to this, I've started disconnecting them now and it seems to have stopped.
I've also had issues getting the last 20% out of the can. The pressure drops right off while there is seemingly plenty left. Appears they're sh*te.
Interestingly, I do find the Premus you have to screw your stove on outside. As they spray gas out when you screw on or off. It's as if the valve opens way earlier.
I find this quiet interesting and it may be solve an observation that I have made which I cannot explain. There is another thread running from earlier in February abot "Gas in Winter" or something on those lines.
In the other thread, I posted a paragraph:-
>>>> I keep a track of how long cannisters last with a stopwatch, a 450 lasts me on average 8 hours, and incredibly 220 canisters last on average 6 1/2 hours religiously. Half as much gas and lasts a lot more proportionately longer. Why, I do not know, maybe the larger cannisters have more pressure in them and you cannot get such a low flame so your always burning more gas, and when they are empty, there is more void inside full of gas that does not come out so more wastage maybe?. This is why I prefer to use 220 canisters instead of 450's.<<<<
It makes me wonder.
As a rule though, I always disconnect a cannister after every usage in case I do get a leak and I am asleep. One of the things that bothers me is and I got a bit paranoid about it is, if you run your hand up your sleeping bag fast or rub a fleece fast, you get a load of blue sparks from static.
In my minds eye, all you need is a leaking cannister, get the right gas / air mixture, roll over in your sleeping bag or brush across your fleece whilst your asleep, and your bivvy could go up in a fireball.
When I googled it, I came across:-
>>>>But in an environment where propane and its vapor are present, static electricity can cause fires or explosions—the energy that a static spark gives off is twice the amount necessary to ignite propane. .<<<<<
But, as I only close my bivvy door in very inclement weather when the winds blowing in after its changed direction and its hammering it down with rain so chances of getting an explosive mixture of gas / air would be very remote.
In the other thread, I posted a paragraph:-
>>>> I keep a track of how long cannisters last with a stopwatch, a 450 lasts me on average 8 hours, and incredibly 220 canisters last on average 6 1/2 hours religiously. Half as much gas and lasts a lot more proportionately longer. Why, I do not know, maybe the larger cannisters have more pressure in them and you cannot get such a low flame so your always burning more gas, and when they are empty, there is more void inside full of gas that does not come out so more wastage maybe?. This is why I prefer to use 220 canisters instead of 450's.<<<<
It makes me wonder.
As a rule though, I always disconnect a cannister after every usage in case I do get a leak and I am asleep. One of the things that bothers me is and I got a bit paranoid about it is, if you run your hand up your sleeping bag fast or rub a fleece fast, you get a load of blue sparks from static.
In my minds eye, all you need is a leaking cannister, get the right gas / air mixture, roll over in your sleeping bag or brush across your fleece whilst your asleep, and your bivvy could go up in a fireball.
When I googled it, I came across:-
>>>>But in an environment where propane and its vapor are present, static electricity can cause fires or explosions—the energy that a static spark gives off is twice the amount necessary to ignite propane. .<<<<<
But, as I only close my bivvy door in very inclement weather when the winds blowing in after its changed direction and its hammering it down with rain so chances of getting an explosive mixture of gas / air would be very remote.
In reply to Post #28
Sounds more likely its under a higher pressure and that would also explain why all the gas comes out too
Sounds more likely its under a higher pressure and that would also explain why all the gas comes out too