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Shimano Ci$ 1400 ...yes or no ...any issues (32 posts / 2,873 views)
Goose Goose
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Post #16 27 Dec 2021 08:35
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I've also got ultegra ci4 's in both 5500 and 14000, no issues with line being the spool. As previously said overfilling will cause issues same as most reels.
Calabro
Posts: 335
Post #17 27 Dec 2021 10:51
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No, I have XTB's. It has little to do with overfilling the spools as I understood. The thing is those line guards move up and down in a kind of gully in the reel during oscillation. Every now and then - when disaster strikes - the line guard moves up too much and comes loose. This means the line guard will spin your line outside and around the spool, creating all sorts of nasty situations (pardon my English, may be a bit unclear when it gets too technical).

I almost lost my PB because of it, the very first time I took them out. My supplier said it was just bad luck, because it hardly ever happens with XTB's. He did mention he distributed more than 100 spare line guards, most of them for XTD's. To be honest, I'm not really comfortable using them anymore. Had another one come loose too, but I was just in time to push it back. Pretty poor for the nearly £500 I paid for three of them.
Goose Goose
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Post #18 27 Dec 2021 11:52
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Strange that your shop should see so many, mine has seen none of this with ci4's, of which they have sold loads, also said not seen it with power aero's or techniums which have the same design of line gaurd.
Baitman Baitman
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Post #19 27 Dec 2021 14:00
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Just to be clear, which part has been your issue...
Is this the line guard that floats under the spool, or the line roller assembly on the bale arm?
Calabro
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Post #20 27 Dec 2021 14:09
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In reply to Post #19
Its the line guard, that rather fragile piece of plastic at the bottom of the spool.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #21 28 Dec 2021 13:19
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There is no way that can come loose,it sits under the spool and the lugs go into a groove either side of the rotar.
Calabro
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Post #22 28 Dec 2021 14:37
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In reply to Post #21
Hmm, will check asap to be sure if I'm talking about the same reel. Paid them cash and only used them twice so far so a bit in doubt if I have the Ci4s now. I may have the non-Ci4's then. But if they cant come loose on those Ci4's, first thing I will do is trade mine for those, because on mine they do come loose and my supplier had a bag of spares handy like they were Hunter 750s.

Edit: the line guard does look to be the exact same.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #23 28 Dec 2021 14:42
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The line guard should be the same on them all,it sits on the spindle under the spool.Take a look at the replacement line guards available to buy and you should see what I mean
Calabro
Posts: 335
Post #24 28 Dec 2021 14:47
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Yeah, it is the exact same one. Believe me they can get out. Had it happen twice in a week. Once they get out, the reel jams completely and the line guard breaks.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #25 28 Dec 2021 15:12
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In reply to Post #24
I have never ever heard of that before,thinner plastic making them flimsy and flex out of the runners maybe.
Baitman Baitman
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Post #26 28 Dec 2021 15:25
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In reply to Post #24
Be sure the little plastic sleeves haven't come off the pegs that fit into the runners.
Mine were falling off my reels every time so i ended up putting a tiny dot of superglue on them.
If lost you can probably improvise with a small bit of shrink tube.

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woody71
Posts: 3,098
Post #27 28 Dec 2021 15:53
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Thats a good point shrink tube would probably work well in the past i have used a small section of 1mm silicon
Baitman Baitman
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Post #28 28 Dec 2021 18:55
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Silicone is too grippy.
heat shrink works well, but you may need a double thickness. When it feels right you can take the pre-formed sleeve off, add a dot of suerglue with the tip of a pin then re-add the sleeve.
bluebeat13
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Post #29 29 Dec 2021 12:37
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In reply to Post #26
Which reels are those?
Baitman Baitman
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Post #30 29 Dec 2021 12:45
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In reply to Post #29
Shimano Ultegra XT early japan ones.
They have had a full strip and lovingly rebuilt with new bearings.

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