In reply to Post #15
What sort of range are people getting. My catapults are a bit like Triggers broom as over the years I've had to change the the elastic and also I think the pouch at some time. Using 16mm and struggling to get over 14 wraps so having to go over to a throwing stick.
What sort of range are people getting. My catapults are a bit like Triggers broom as over the years I've had to change the the elastic and also I think the pouch at some time. Using 16mm and struggling to get over 14 wraps so having to go over to a throwing stick.
In reply to Post #16
I was struggling to get to 11 wraps (krill active) with the Jag one pult. Tried different elastics. Only thing I did achieve was sore knuckles
I was struggling to get to 11 wraps (krill active) with the Jag one pult. Tried different elastics. Only thing I did achieve was sore knuckles
In reply to Post #17
I've read some real savage reviews of that JAG jobby online, v much in agreement with what you're saying mate.
I've read some real savage reviews of that JAG jobby online, v much in agreement with what you're saying mate.
In reply to Post #18
Opinions I suppose.
I've not had any trouble with the standard elastic hitting 15 wraps and not one knuckle wrap yet. One of the first pult's that hasn't happened with? Happy with mine.
Opinions I suppose.
I've not had any trouble with the standard elastic hitting 15 wraps and not one knuckle wrap yet. One of the first pult's that hasn't happened with? Happy with mine.
In reply to Post #19
That's the first good review I've read Cam. There must be a knack to it!
That's the first good review I've read Cam. There must be a knack to it!
In reply to Post #1
Gardner ones are good 👍
Gardner ones are good 👍
In reply to Post #21
I can second the Gardner pult.
I can second the Gardner pult.
In reply to Post #20
Forgive me for chiming in about the one-pult as I'm ever so biased. I'll say my piece and leave it alone to everyone's opinion, but there is a “knack to it” of sorts, which is very good practice for any catapult.
That is simply to keep the frame nice and rigid in your hand when you release the pouch. You see many people when firing the catapult almost push with the frame when releasing bait, I know I've done it in a bid to get a few extra yards. This only hinders distance but also changes the angle the latex and pouch recoil back toward you, it also affects how the bait leaves the pouch. Keep as rigid a frame hand as possible with the frame flat to the lake and it'll perform superb. Also with the semi rigid pouches which is excellent for filling and bait release you need to fire the catty at least approx 40 degrees, this stops bait falling out and aids distance.
When you buy other catapults they all come with predetermined elastic strengths and pouches, with the one-pult you can choose any combination, the one to avoid is using the super heavy elastic with the small pouch as this is totally unbalanced between strength of latex and weight of payload. You need a nice balance between the two.
Cheers Jim
Forgive me for chiming in about the one-pult as I'm ever so biased. I'll say my piece and leave it alone to everyone's opinion, but there is a “knack to it” of sorts, which is very good practice for any catapult.
That is simply to keep the frame nice and rigid in your hand when you release the pouch. You see many people when firing the catapult almost push with the frame when releasing bait, I know I've done it in a bid to get a few extra yards. This only hinders distance but also changes the angle the latex and pouch recoil back toward you, it also affects how the bait leaves the pouch. Keep as rigid a frame hand as possible with the frame flat to the lake and it'll perform superb. Also with the semi rigid pouches which is excellent for filling and bait release you need to fire the catty at least approx 40 degrees, this stops bait falling out and aids distance.
When you buy other catapults they all come with predetermined elastic strengths and pouches, with the one-pult you can choose any combination, the one to avoid is using the super heavy elastic with the small pouch as this is totally unbalanced between strength of latex and weight of payload. You need a nice balance between the two.
Cheers Jim
In reply to Post #23
I think I've been guilty of not keeping the frame steady on release.
what do you mean by 'frame flat to the lake '
I think I've been guilty of not keeping the frame steady on release.
what do you mean by 'frame flat to the lake '
In reply to Post #24
Wasn't the greatest description I used there. When you make aim, just try stop the frame from moving on the release. No matter what pult you use this facilitates accuracy and if it's a decent pult stops knuckle wraps.
Wasn't the greatest description I used there. When you make aim, just try stop the frame from moving on the release. No matter what pult you use this facilitates accuracy and if it's a decent pult stops knuckle wraps.
In reply to Post #1
i use an esp pult which is decent enough apart from the fact i keep tearing the eyelet out of the pouch, specially in summer when i'm feeding floaters heavily. I've just taken delivery of a jag one pult, i bought it because the elastic went round the pouch and that would solve a problem for me but i'm not sure i've done the right thing now i've read this thread
i use an esp pult which is decent enough apart from the fact i keep tearing the eyelet out of the pouch, specially in summer when i'm feeding floaters heavily. I've just taken delivery of a jag one pult, i bought it because the elastic went round the pouch and that would solve a problem for me but i'm not sure i've done the right thing now i've read this thread
In reply to Post #26
You'll be fine. There's nothing wrong with it. The pros far outweigh the negatives.
The jag pult when used correctly is excellent. Like Jim says, certainly one of the bad reviews that got a lot of traction on Facebook was from a guy complaining he couldn't get any accuracy and was wrapping his knuckles. When he posted up a picture of what he was using, he'd fitted the heaviest grade elastic, that requires the maximum pull to fully compress it and he'd combined that with the smallest pouch. So was it really any wonder the thing had no control. This was pointed out to him but fell on deaf ears, obviously. Then as per usual other people chip in, claiming “it's a piece of s@@t” then you read comments further down and you realise they don't even own one. Same old same old. Seems some people expect it to be a miracle pult that suddenly puts out baits at throwing stick distances, completely unreasonable expectations.
Let's put this into a bit of perspective. I can tell you from personal experience that this catapult went through many many different versions of frames, elastic, attachments, pouches, handles etc etc and then even from my limited knowledge it was tested for at least two years that I know of. Does anyone think they'd actually release an unusable product after all that time and research?
Like anything new that you own in fishing, it takes practice to get it right and find the right balance for you and your situation and to hone your techniques. If they'd released this catapult and it was £9.99 you wouldn't have found a single negative comment, but because it's more expensive some people feel the need to start off from a negative viewpoint and work there way down from there. You get Jag haters, Korda haters, mainline haters etc etc. But thousands of these have been sold and I can tell you that thousands of them haven't been returned for a refund.
Just make your own mind up.
You'll be fine. There's nothing wrong with it. The pros far outweigh the negatives.
The jag pult when used correctly is excellent. Like Jim says, certainly one of the bad reviews that got a lot of traction on Facebook was from a guy complaining he couldn't get any accuracy and was wrapping his knuckles. When he posted up a picture of what he was using, he'd fitted the heaviest grade elastic, that requires the maximum pull to fully compress it and he'd combined that with the smallest pouch. So was it really any wonder the thing had no control. This was pointed out to him but fell on deaf ears, obviously. Then as per usual other people chip in, claiming “it's a piece of s@@t” then you read comments further down and you realise they don't even own one. Same old same old. Seems some people expect it to be a miracle pult that suddenly puts out baits at throwing stick distances, completely unreasonable expectations.
Let's put this into a bit of perspective. I can tell you from personal experience that this catapult went through many many different versions of frames, elastic, attachments, pouches, handles etc etc and then even from my limited knowledge it was tested for at least two years that I know of. Does anyone think they'd actually release an unusable product after all that time and research?
Like anything new that you own in fishing, it takes practice to get it right and find the right balance for you and your situation and to hone your techniques. If they'd released this catapult and it was £9.99 you wouldn't have found a single negative comment, but because it's more expensive some people feel the need to start off from a negative viewpoint and work there way down from there. You get Jag haters, Korda haters, mainline haters etc etc. But thousands of these have been sold and I can tell you that thousands of them haven't been returned for a refund.
Just make your own mind up.
What is the best replacement elastic out there lads? I'm also a bit confused about what size to choose from when looking on ebay!? I am replacing the elastic on an ESP Boilie Pult
Thanks in Advance
Scotty
Thanks in Advance
Scotty
In reply to Post #27
i think i need to practice with it mate, i used it briefly to put a few baits in before i left the lake yesterday, accuracy was awful and i wrapped my knuckles a few times
i ended up trying to lock my arm, aim high, keep the pouch central and not follow through or roll my wrist which is something i have a habit of doing with my old esp pult, it's hard to undo many years of doing this though. i have the black elastic and a medium pouch which is the standard combination i believe?. i'll stick with it for now, practice makes perfect and all that but my first impression of it is the lad you mention on fb might have a point
if i can get the knack of it i'll be ok otherwise it'll be back to my old faithful.
i think i need to practice with it mate, i used it briefly to put a few baits in before i left the lake yesterday, accuracy was awful and i wrapped my knuckles a few times
i ended up trying to lock my arm, aim high, keep the pouch central and not follow through or roll my wrist which is something i have a habit of doing with my old esp pult, it's hard to undo many years of doing this though. i have the black elastic and a medium pouch which is the standard combination i believe?. i'll stick with it for now, practice makes perfect and all that but my first impression of it is the lad you mention on fb might have a point
if i can get the knack of it i'll be ok otherwise it'll be back to my old faithful.
In reply to Post #28
I'm still looking for the right size replacement, i think my drennan boilie pult is basically the same as the ESP
I'm still looking for the right size replacement, i think my drennan boilie pult is basically the same as the ESP