In reply to Post #15
Same as me, I'm not tell but used to do the tournament back in my beach casting days, should also say those rods were 13ft 4.25tc. Didn't realise the venue or size at my first post but must say blank manufacturers are trying to develop blanks for level line distance casting.
Same as me, I'm not tell but used to do the tournament back in my beach casting days, should also say those rods were 13ft 4.25tc. Didn't realise the venue or size at my first post but must say blank manufacturers are trying to develop blanks for level line distance casting.
In reply to Post #15
You cast 154 yards with the same rod reel and line.
What range did Terry Edmonds crack off at, 200yds plus? You say he didn't give it the beans, but you cast 154 yards and if that's not giving it the beans, I don't know what is.
You cast 154 yards with the same rod reel and line.
What range did Terry Edmonds crack off at, 200yds plus? You say he didn't give it the beans, but you cast 154 yards and if that's not giving it the beans, I don't know what is.
In reply to Post #16
How many anglers, apart from the likes of Terry, are casting tournament range distances?
The absolute maximum that can be cast by most anglers is 130 yards, unless they've had tuition.
How many anglers, apart from the likes of Terry, are casting tournament range distances?
The absolute maximum that can be cast by most anglers is 130 yards, unless they've had tuition.
In reply to Post #17
One guys giving it the beans is very different from a professional casters.
One guys giving it the beans is very different from a professional casters.
In reply to Post #18
Many have had tuition and even more have watched videos and filmed themselves practicing.
Many have had tuition and even more have watched videos and filmed themselves practicing.
In reply to Post #19
My point exactly. Terry Edmonds is a tournament caster. He's capable of cracking off with 0.37mm, because he's capable of casting 200 yards plus. I can't do that. Furthest I've ever cast was just over 160 yards. But, that was years ago. I can't get anywhere near that now and most anglers out there can't either.
It doesn't make any sense to limit the weight of a lead when the vast majority don't have the ability to cast those extreme ranges.
I remember when 90 yards was classed as extreme
My point exactly. Terry Edmonds is a tournament caster. He's capable of cracking off with 0.37mm, because he's capable of casting 200 yards plus. I can't do that. Furthest I've ever cast was just over 160 yards. But, that was years ago. I can't get anywhere near that now and most anglers out there can't either.
It doesn't make any sense to limit the weight of a lead when the vast majority don't have the ability to cast those extreme ranges.
I remember when 90 yards was classed as extreme
In reply to Post #21
Agree limiting the weight on a distance venue will make it hard but maybe that's what the owner wants, can only imagine if the fish are out of range and not getting caught people will eventually go else ware.
Agree limiting the weight on a distance venue will make it hard but maybe that's what the owner wants, can only imagine if the fish are out of range and not getting caught people will eventually go else ware.
In reply to Post #22
Yeah, it can only be to the owners benefit. But, having said that, you'd think he'd want his membership to have a better chance of catching fish.
Yeah, it can only be to the owners benefit. But, having said that, you'd think he'd want his membership to have a better chance of catching fish.
In reply to Post #17
The point is you said you can't crack off .35 or .37 unless there's something wrong with the line
I have seen evidence that that's not the case
And how would you know how far you'd cast if you crack off ?
Terry didn't give it the beans cos he knew there was a risk of cracking off with no leader.
So I'm talking about Terry's beans here, shortly after cracking off with my level line set up he cast his 214 yards. (Measured)
my set up was a Shimano TX9 13ft Intensity with Shimano Ultegra Ci4 reel
The point is you said you can't crack off .35 or .37 unless there's something wrong with the line
I have seen evidence that that's not the case
And how would you know how far you'd cast if you crack off ?
Terry didn't give it the beans cos he knew there was a risk of cracking off with no leader.
So I'm talking about Terry's beans here, shortly after cracking off with my level line set up he cast his 214 yards. (Measured)
my set up was a Shimano TX9 13ft Intensity with Shimano Ultegra Ci4 reel
In reply to Post #24
The point is, I said you can't crack off with 0.37mm under normal circumstances. I don't know why I have to be so damned specific!! It seems to me there are certain bods on this forum that want to argue for the sake of it.
Are you Terry Edmonds? No. And the overwhelming majority of the anglers out there aren't either.
If there's nothing wrong with the line, like damage, or line twist, you won't crack off 0.37mm...unless of course you're casting extreme ranges of over 200 yards. Apart from a select few, there aren't that many capable of casting those ranges
The point is, I said you can't crack off with 0.37mm under normal circumstances. I don't know why I have to be so damned specific!! It seems to me there are certain bods on this forum that want to argue for the sake of it.
Are you Terry Edmonds? No. And the overwhelming majority of the anglers out there aren't either.
If there's nothing wrong with the line, like damage, or line twist, you won't crack off 0.37mm...unless of course you're casting extreme ranges of over 200 yards. Apart from a select few, there aren't that many capable of casting those ranges
In reply to Post #25
0.37 line, I can easily crack off with that, I'm no expert I just know what I know
0.37 line, I can easily crack off with that, I'm no expert I just know what I know
In reply to Post #25
In reply to Post #27
Then, there was something wrong with the line, simple. 😂
I know what I know.
I used to work in factory that manufactures monofilament. The main reasons are for a line like 0.37mm to crack off are: line twist and line damage. Or, in very rare cases where the angler is casting at extreme ranges, (which most aren't capable of) and/or with a weight that's too heavy for the line. And 4oz isn't too heavy for 0.37mm.
That's not line fault, that's the angler's fault.
Then, there was something wrong with the line, simple. 😂
I know what I know.
I used to work in factory that manufactures monofilament. The main reasons are for a line like 0.37mm to crack off are: line twist and line damage. Or, in very rare cases where the angler is casting at extreme ranges, (which most aren't capable of) and/or with a weight that's too heavy for the line. And 4oz isn't too heavy for 0.37mm.
That's not line fault, that's the angler's fault.
In reply to Post #25
Perhaps you should re-read what you put before you start accusing others of being argumentative
You seem to be very opinionated and unaccepting of anyone's else's opinion.
No mention of normal circumstances you stated it as fact
But, if you are cracking off with a 4oz lead on 0.37mm, then, there's something wrong with the line. Either it's damaged, or it's line twist. I know that syncro xt 0.37mm has a break strain of around 22lb. You're not gonna crack that off with a 4oz lead.
Perhaps you should re-read what you put before you start accusing others of being argumentative
You seem to be very opinionated and unaccepting of anyone's else's opinion.
No mention of normal circumstances you stated it as fact
But, if you are cracking off with a 4oz lead on 0.37mm, then, there's something wrong with the line. Either it's damaged, or it's line twist. I know that syncro xt 0.37mm has a break strain of around 22lb. You're not gonna crack that off with a 4oz lead.
In reply to Post #29
And what's wrong with that statement?
The point I've made at the very start is, a 3oz lead is way too light a lead to use on a large lake that may require casting at range. There are times when that extra bit of weight is required to reach a baited area.
It was put to me, that maybe it's because a heavier lead would cause a crack off. But, after 30 odd years of carp fishing and working with monofilament line, I know that crack offs are mostly caused by line twist and line damage. If an angler is unbalanced tackle, that is the fault of the angler. If that makes me opinionated, oh well.
0.37mm should be bomb proof. You'd have to do something very wrong to make it crack off
Terry Edmonds probably showed you what not to do. I don't know, I wasn't there.
And what's wrong with that statement?
The point I've made at the very start is, a 3oz lead is way too light a lead to use on a large lake that may require casting at range. There are times when that extra bit of weight is required to reach a baited area.
It was put to me, that maybe it's because a heavier lead would cause a crack off. But, after 30 odd years of carp fishing and working with monofilament line, I know that crack offs are mostly caused by line twist and line damage. If an angler is unbalanced tackle, that is the fault of the angler. If that makes me opinionated, oh well.
0.37mm should be bomb proof. You'd have to do something very wrong to make it crack off
Terry Edmonds probably showed you what not to do. I don't know, I wasn't there.