In reply to Post #14
I've never used them pal was more enquiring on how far can be cast safely with them. The other weekend I fished from 50 yards - 110 yards over the weekend and ideally like a heli system that isn't fixed and can cast the distance.
Also at less cost than the heli-safes , £6 for 2 is expensive. There very good mind
I've never used them pal was more enquiring on how far can be cast safely with them. The other weekend I fished from 50 yards - 110 yards over the weekend and ideally like a heli system that isn't fixed and can cast the distance.
Also at less cost than the heli-safes , £6 for 2 is expensive. There very good mind
I use the original C-Clip from Enterprise (I believe they were the first) and use the heavier of the two clips they offer. I invariably fish paste on the lead and use a 2.5ox Fox Paste Bomb

Loaded with paste it weighs about 4-4.5 oz and though it is not the most aerodynamic casting weight, I can lob it about 80-90 yards. Not lost one on the cast in going on six years since I first started using them.

Hope this helps!

Loaded with paste it weighs about 4-4.5 oz and though it is not the most aerodynamic casting weight, I can lob it about 80-90 yards. Not lost one on the cast in going on six years since I first started using them.

Hope this helps!
In reply to Post #1
I've used the original Gardner equivalent, since they were released, in 6lb. Cast to 90 yards with a 4.5 oz lead, this is to a far margin ( fishing from one bank only) so no real risk if the lead does eject etc. As mentioned you do have to cast smoothly.....Conversely I flicked the rod tip to remove a tangle, bounced the lead and it ejected in the margin!!
I use a buffer bead to sleeve the leader ring, C clip and lead loop, doing so and using heli leads with a ring pushed flat to the lead rather than attaching the C clip to the lead ring, this allows you to use the lead ring to tie off with pva above buffer bead if needed.
I've used the original Gardner equivalent, since they were released, in 6lb. Cast to 90 yards with a 4.5 oz lead, this is to a far margin ( fishing from one bank only) so no real risk if the lead does eject etc. As mentioned you do have to cast smoothly.....Conversely I flicked the rod tip to remove a tangle, bounced the lead and it ejected in the margin!!
I use a buffer bead to sleeve the leader ring, C clip and lead loop, doing so and using heli leads with a ring pushed flat to the lead rather than attaching the C clip to the lead ring, this allows you to use the lead ring to tie off with pva above buffer bead if needed.
In reply to Post #17
Looks like my river set up that 👍🏻 Shame no ones come up with an even heavier version for longer casts or if there was enough room for 2 clips when needed.
Looks like my river set up that 👍🏻 Shame no ones come up with an even heavier version for longer casts or if there was enough room for 2 clips when needed.
In reply to Post #11
Tie on a o ring onto the leader or a quick change gizmo then you can hover between the 2 heli set ups
Use the c clip to attach the lead and pva it on after
Tie on a o ring onto the leader or a quick change gizmo then you can hover between the 2 heli set ups
Use the c clip to attach the lead and pva it on after
In reply to Post #20
Yes like this THIS and tie the lead loop to the ring with PVA when giving it the biggun, bit tiresome having to redo it on the miscasts though, just stick with the Heli Safe
Yes like this THIS and tie the lead loop to the ring with PVA when giving it the biggun, bit tiresome having to redo it on the miscasts though, just stick with the Heli Safe