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What is the best all round rod? (74 posts / 7,307 views)
Jslinn Jslinn
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Post #16 21 May 2021 18:33
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As I understand it the carbon used to make the mk1 challengers is no longer commercially available.
Goose Goose
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Post #17 21 May 2021 19:25
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You can't make perfect because we are all different and angle differently, bit like marmite some will love a responsive rod with a buitifull playing action but that won't be perfect for those that fish huge European inland seas at extreme range. Add in fish size and a rod used on a historic estate lake with a few leney doubles /scraper twenties wouldn't be most peoples choice for the inland seas with eighty pound fish. Tailor the suit to fit the person wearing it, same with rod choice tailor it fit your venue and fish being angled for.
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #18 21 May 2021 20:33
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it dont !!
my pal bought the infinitys when they came out selling his AKN`s to fund them and was gutted so much after a season sold them on and bought some AKNs from ebay

Story goes Kevin went to Diawa and told them what he wanted money no object and Diawa came up with the Amorphous wrapped blank that was incredibly expensive they were around 5 times the price of most rods back then and the AKN (Amorphous Kevin Nash) rods were born
out of interest our Terry on a casting lesson had a chuck with one of mine and was not prepared to give it the biggun as he said he wasnt prepared to chance breaking it so cast it 174 yards and was impressed said it will do 200 no problem but for a rod that has such a fantastic playing action its quite something

nothing else can compare as nothing else has ever been produced in the same way
Fortysteve Fortysteve
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Post #19 21 May 2021 21:05
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People will claim AKN's etc, but it's all with rose tinted glasses. In reality, most of these old blanks are tired now and feel anything but crisp, especially compared to modern blanks.
As for best all rounder, I would have said Terry Hearn Mk1 12' 9”s. But more recently I was impressed with the Aviator Flex blanks for all-roundness, and then I have picked up some Shimano TX9 3.25's and these rods have blown me away! Not cool or trendy, but they are the nuts!
Busted
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Post #20 21 May 2021 21:17
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Depends how good at casting you are. I had a go with some 2.75 harrison torrix accurix last year and with 10lb line i could get them 130 ish but they were absolutely wonderful at everything else. I had 2 mid 20s from under my feet and they were absolutely superb

Its the best balance that I've experienced. Maybe a 3lb would give you the distance that you want but its a big ask for such a progressive blank
oldgeezer oldgeezer
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Mr Linky Poo
Mr Linky Poo Post #21 21 May 2021 21:25
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Pricey83 Pricey83
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Post #22 21 May 2021 21:39
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Agree with most that there just isn't a perfect, one size fits all rod. But I guess that's why most people have multiple sets! That's my excuse anyway!

I've got a pair of custom built Armalites which I've had for 20+ years and even now, they come with me on every session. And depending on where I end up, if I can, I'll use them as they're an absolute pleasure to play a fish on and to be honest, work for the vast majority of my angling.
Goose Goose
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Post #23 21 May 2021 23:42
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In reply to Post #18
That story is flawed because daiwa were making the amorphous wrapped rods before the akn came out.
Jslinn Jslinn
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Post #24 22 May 2021 02:59
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Was that with a baited rig or just a lead?
Jslinn Jslinn
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Post #25 22 May 2021 02:59
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Was that with a baited rig or just a lead?
noj
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Terry could cast most rods that far, like he did with the nash scopes. Didn't make them a distance rod.
What it shows is that these old rods designed for fishing are only ‘improved' with a bias towards casting distances beyond the capability of 95% of people. In fact, some people cast further with a more progressive blank with a bigger performance window.
I agree they are brilliant rods, like the tournament reels they are still really the standard by which everything since is measured.
Anyone know how the x45 compares? Isn't that a weave in the blank?
duggs
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Post #27 22 May 2021 10:10
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Rod design is skewed too much towards casting for me, I much prefer the older blanks like chimera or ballista that never seem to lock up.
It's all well and good looking at what Terry can do with a rod, but that doesn't tell me whether they're any good for flicking a 1 oz lead into a hole in the weed at 20yards.
I seem to do that a lot more often than I whack a pva bag 130 yards
armalitemk1 armalitemk1
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Post #28 22 May 2021 10:11
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The original Autoclave Century NGs (well apart from they went white when it rained after about 10 year's but once rebuilt fantastic)
ron83 ron83
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Post #29 22 May 2021 10:56
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In reply to Post #28
I love my FS 'XS's often overlooked for the hi-s
jeffire jeffire
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Post #30 22 May 2021 11:12
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Yes but you see you like fishing rods not barge poles , the accurix is probably the best fishing rod produced in the last 10 years but its overlooked because you have to use a rod over 3.5 tc or you dont know what you are doing .
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