In reply to Post #14
I once inadvertently doubled up on the acids(butyric/caproic/citric and malic) and EA flavour in a hookbaits mix, ( answering phone etc, who says us blokes can't multitask?) mixed and rolled the baits fine, got around to boil them, thought the water had suddenly gone bright orange, went stir them and they had all dissolved! Just glad I hadn't invested time in rolling corkballs otherwise the kitchen would now be orange and smell of butyric and mulberry florentine 🙄
I once inadvertently doubled up on the acids(butyric/caproic/citric and malic) and EA flavour in a hookbaits mix, ( answering phone etc, who says us blokes can't multitask?) mixed and rolled the baits fine, got around to boil them, thought the water had suddenly gone bright orange, went stir them and they had all dissolved! Just glad I hadn't invested time in rolling corkballs otherwise the kitchen would now be orange and smell of butyric and mulberry florentine 🙄
In reply to Post #16
I'm putting together a few high attract hookbaits. Thinking of adding 4 drops of n-nutyric acid per egg before boiling. Is it worth adding drops to the pot of baits after air drying and how many drops?
Is it worth mixing citric acid and butyric together? What would be the doses benifits and drawbacks?
I also have black pepper EO how many drops per egg? Its a high quality oil, and is it worth adding drops again to pot after drying and how many?
I'm putting together a few high attract hookbaits. Thinking of adding 4 drops of n-nutyric acid per egg before boiling. Is it worth adding drops to the pot of baits after air drying and how many drops?
Is it worth mixing citric acid and butyric together? What would be the doses benifits and drawbacks?
I also have black pepper EO how many drops per egg? Its a high quality oil, and is it worth adding drops again to pot after drying and how many?
In reply to Post #17
What do the manufacturer labels recommend dosage wise, for a 1lb mix for n-nutyric acid, and the black pepper oil ?
What do the manufacturer labels recommend dosage wise, for a 1lb mix for n-nutyric acid, and the black pepper oil ?
In reply to Post #18
It's the Nutrabaits butyric
Use either on its own at up to 2ml per 500g mix or at half that level with the flavour or essential oil of your choice.
It's the Nutrabaits butyric
Use either on its own at up to 2ml per 500g mix or at half that level with the flavour or essential oil of your choice.
In reply to Post #19
I seem to remember the original NB dropper bottles were 24 drops to 1ml.
So maybe go up to 6 to 8 drops, see how it reacts in the mix, up it from there, if you feel the need, or are single, or the missus is out of the kitchen. LOL !
As some have already, too much NBA in your eggs could/can cause rolling problems in some mixes.
Trial and error I'm afraid.
I seem to remember the original NB dropper bottles were 24 drops to 1ml.
So maybe go up to 6 to 8 drops, see how it reacts in the mix, up it from there, if you feel the need, or are single, or the missus is out of the kitchen. LOL !
As some have already, too much NBA in your eggs could/can cause rolling problems in some mixes.
Trial and error I'm afraid.
In reply to Post #20
Ok thanks. What about adding it to the pots after the baits are rolled?
Any opinions on mixing citric and butyric? Do I need gloves when mixing this up or not?
Ok thanks. What about adding it to the pots after the baits are rolled?
Any opinions on mixing citric and butyric? Do I need gloves when mixing this up or not?
2ml in a tub of pop-ups should do it for you. 
Thought we could save a few steps and mix the liquid additives together in a bottle, a one dose sort of deal as opposed to multiple....butyric acid doesn't like certain products and my god what a mess 😭
Never had one manufacturer I've bought from called it N Butyric, think tge N was a nutrabaits thing?
Never had one manufacturer I've bought from called it N Butyric, think tge N was a nutrabaits thing?
In reply to Post #22
That's confused me Ken. 4 drops in the mix then the equivalent of 40+ drops in the finished pot of baits?
That's confused me Ken. 4 drops in the mix then the equivalent of 40+ drops in the finished pot of baits?
How would one go about making a spray for popups using NBA and the flavours in the hookbaits?
What basemix for popups does everyone find most bouyant?
What basemix for popups does everyone find most bouyant?
In reply to Post #25
Unless the flavours are compatible with the butyric acid you could be wasting your money. I don't have the knowledge you need but I'm sure someone like John Baker or. Jason Ryder would know.
Unless the flavours are compatible with the butyric acid you could be wasting your money. I don't have the knowledge you need but I'm sure someone like John Baker or. Jason Ryder would know.
In reply to Post #26
a pure butyric acid flavoured pop up will outscore most flavoured pop ups, but then the "secret" flavour is out and companies cant claim the next wonder ingredient.
Pisses me off its so good, we use loads and you never I repeat NEVER get used to the smell. I must of handled the best part of 100 kilos of it last year, I feel like I paid an emotional price for every damn gram of it lol
a pure butyric acid flavoured pop up will outscore most flavoured pop ups, but then the "secret" flavour is out and companies cant claim the next wonder ingredient.
Pisses me off its so good, we use loads and you never I repeat NEVER get used to the smell. I must of handled the best part of 100 kilos of it last year, I feel like I paid an emotional price for every damn gram of it lol
In reply to Post #27
Agreed... its f'ing stinks!
Agreed... its f'ing stinks!
In reply to Post #28
If I add 5 drops to a fruity popup will the acid smell be really strong when the baits are finished? or is it mainly during the cooking and mixing process is stinks?
If I add 5 drops to a fruity popup will the acid smell be really strong when the baits are finished? or is it mainly during the cooking and mixing process is stinks?
glad this thread has started as im about to buy some, not sure on the amount to buy, so does anyone know the shelflife of N-Butyric Acid?