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Liquids for a winter bait (28 posts / 5,929 views)
Ynnek
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Post #16 25 Jul 2020 17:38
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In reply to Post #15
Just checked out the spec sheet of celmanax. Nearly 10wt% of protein content and 78% of moisture.
Wouldn't you be better off with liquid enzyme treated yeast from feedstim
(45wt% of protein content)
Cambscarper1974 Cambscarper1974
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Post #17 25 Jul 2020 17:40
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In reply to Post #14
It's a liquid yeast made for the cattle industry. Helps cattle digest carbohydrates. It would indeed work well with liquid liver, both in the bait and as a top dressing once it's made. Baitwize sell it by the litre. As you only need 20mil per kilo I can't see the point of buying 10l.
Ynnek
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Post #18 25 Jul 2020 17:40
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In reply to Post #15
Double post
carpchef carpchef
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Post #19 25 Jul 2020 20:49
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In reply to Post #17
I have moved to a fishmeal this year but include a bit of brocacel yeast in my base mix, would this liquid complement what is basically a fishmeal bait, just as a glug, I am thinking, maybe mixed with a fish type liquid?
Spike Spike
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Post #20 25 Jul 2020 21:00
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In reply to Post #17
Yeah it's something I'm interested in. There's another seller on eBay also. Works out around £160 for 20 litres direct so around £8 litre.

But is it a waste @ 20ml per kilo direct into the bait.
carpe_diem carpe_diem
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Post #21 26 Jul 2020 12:14
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I use it in powder form 20g per kg and in liquid form at 20ml per kilo , it basically claims to turn boring old carbs to sugars within your mix , something I've been using for a while now .
Works well in most mixes , within the mix , I wouldn't use it as a glug or soak though , there are better products out there for that job
carpe_diem carpe_diem
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Post #22 26 Jul 2020 12:16
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In reply to Post #20
This would work well with your mix Tranter , 1kg will last you a while @ 20ml/20g inclusion rate
Spike Spike
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Post #23 26 Jul 2020 12:34
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Brilliant thank you
AJM123 AJM123
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Post #24 26 Jul 2020 12:42
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In reply to Post #19
You could consider a liquid liver which compliments the Brocacel yeast well and gives a nice savoury smell.
Ynnek
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Post #25 26 Jul 2020 15:01
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In reply to Post #21
Do I understand this correctly: celmanax helps hydrolysizing the carbs? If so, I assume you let your dough rest for a couple of hours?
Spike Spike
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Post #26 26 Jul 2020 20:46
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In reply to Post #22
Ordered a litre to try it. Already have the liver from BAF

Basemix is a fairly simple birdfood / milk protein mix with some added yeasts, spices and vegetable proteins. So it should compliment it nicely.
MARKerz
Posts: 1,954
Post #27 27 Jul 2020 06:31
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In reply to Post #26
Mix in a tablespoon of Marmite with your liquids.
carpchef carpchef
Posts: 290
Post #28 27 Jul 2020 06:53
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In reply to Post #24
AJM; I have already discovered the delights of liquid liver combined with yeast products, as you say, a LOVELY savoury smell, despite the neat liquid on it's own being god damn awful! Every time I measure out this liquid I imagine it is something a celebrity in the jungle would be consuming in a pint glass on "I'm a celebrity..." with Ant and Dec guffawing in the background! But leave it overnight with some yeast sprinkled on and your bait takes on a WONDERFUL carpy aroma.
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