In reply to Post #1
There is a very good reason for metal i.e stainless over carbon, and that is stainless is stronger, not quite so easy to break.
As much as I like the thought of nice and light on a long walk, I would be worried about breaking carbon sticks on the bank. It only takes a slip and falling on a carbon bankstick and you have a nice set of splinters.
Plus pushing carbon sticks into some of the hard ground swims on my waters could be grinding the 'point' and breaking it.
Nice to have a lovely carbon pod, but again the weight of the pod is useful in itself, so I prefer stainless.
There is a very good reason for metal i.e stainless over carbon, and that is stainless is stronger, not quite so easy to break.
As much as I like the thought of nice and light on a long walk, I would be worried about breaking carbon sticks on the bank. It only takes a slip and falling on a carbon bankstick and you have a nice set of splinters.
Plus pushing carbon sticks into some of the hard ground swims on my waters could be grinding the 'point' and breaking it.
Nice to have a lovely carbon pod, but again the weight of the pod is useful in itself, so I prefer stainless.
In reply to Post #15
I never found the weight an issue with stainless. I used to use a jag compact 316 pod with 4 banksticks and i wouldn't of been able to notice any difference if i had a prolite version in my rucksack instead of a stainless one when everything else was in there.
I never found the weight an issue with stainless. I used to use a jag compact 316 pod with 4 banksticks and i wouldn't of been able to notice any difference if i had a prolite version in my rucksack instead of a stainless one when everything else was in there.
In reply to Post #1
As someone in a big name tackle shop said a pod needs to be heavy so it is stable and don't fall over stainless of course is heavier but as someone on here said it still looks and works good after 20 years I wonder what the black will look like in 20 years
As someone in a big name tackle shop said a pod needs to be heavy so it is stable and don't fall over stainless of course is heavier but as someone on here said it still looks and works good after 20 years I wonder what the black will look like in 20 years
In reply to Post #18
Yes agree weight can help a lot to keep it all secure.
Tried black stuff , carbon stuff,ali stuff and all in the bin destroyed too flimsy and prone to breaking no good in the middle of nowhere
Heavy duty rock solid stainless for me lasts a lifetime too.
Yes agree weight can help a lot to keep it all secure.
Tried black stuff , carbon stuff,ali stuff and all in the bin destroyed too flimsy and prone to breaking no good in the middle of nowhere
Heavy duty rock solid stainless for me lasts a lifetime too.
In reply to Post #18
There's no way I'd feel confident knocking in a few carbon sticks into hard ground in the same way I do with a set of Keith Fieldings augured 316 stainless sticks. I doubt they'd last 5 minutes.
Also how long will the pins last between the carbon and metal?
Funny how people follow a bandwagon. I think by far the way forward is going to be titanium, not that it's any different in appearance to stainless but it's as strong and lightweight.
I think if I did buy any black stuff it would chip in no time.
Stainless all the way 👍
There's no way I'd feel confident knocking in a few carbon sticks into hard ground in the same way I do with a set of Keith Fieldings augured 316 stainless sticks. I doubt they'd last 5 minutes.
Also how long will the pins last between the carbon and metal?
Funny how people follow a bandwagon. I think by far the way forward is going to be titanium, not that it's any different in appearance to stainless but it's as strong and lightweight.
I think if I did buy any black stuff it would chip in no time.
Stainless all the way 👍
In reply to Post #1
I've had Chris Brown stuff for 30+ years, still have my original bars and banksticks. Yes it's black and aluminium but it's as simple and bullet proof as you can get, but then I grew up in the era when to be 'ultra cult' everything had to be black, if it wasn't black when you bought it then you painted it!
I have a set of titanium banksticks and a stainless pod but they rarely get used.
I've had Chris Brown stuff for 30+ years, still have my original bars and banksticks. Yes it's black and aluminium but it's as simple and bullet proof as you can get, but then I grew up in the era when to be 'ultra cult' everything had to be black, if it wasn't black when you bought it then you painted it!
I have a set of titanium banksticks and a stainless pod but they rarely get used.
In reply to Post #19
👍😎 get some weight ,solar is all you need,
👍😎 get some weight ,solar is all you need,
In reply to Post #21
When I was a noddy in the early 80's the carp anglers covered all the gear with black insulation tape.
Bank sticks, landing net poles, gas canisters, chair legs and tackle boxes.
When I was a noddy in the early 80's the carp anglers covered all the gear with black insulation tape.
Bank sticks, landing net poles, gas canisters, chair legs and tackle boxes.
In reply to Post #16
Exactly.
Although carbon fibre is very strong for its weight, it is very brittle, susceptible to breakage at section changes and very intolerant of impacts.
If your kit goes on a barrow then my in my view it's an inferior product over stainless (for this use) as it's weight saving is more than offset by the above disadvantages
If you are carrying your kit then titanium might be justified but you certainly pay for that privilege
Exactly.
Although carbon fibre is very strong for its weight, it is very brittle, susceptible to breakage at section changes and very intolerant of impacts.
If your kit goes on a barrow then my in my view it's an inferior product over stainless (for this use) as it's weight saving is more than offset by the above disadvantages
If you are carrying your kit then titanium might be justified but you certainly pay for that privilege
In reply to Post #24
Defiant mps,quality and no dearer than the likes of jag.Its the best bankware I have owned
Defiant mps,quality and no dearer than the likes of jag.Its the best bankware I have owned
In reply to Post #25
I had one of the original Steve Neville ones, that baby wasn't going anywhere when set up. Probably reduced my bag weight by 25% when I sold it lol. Cracking piece of kit though.
I had one of the original Steve Neville ones, that baby wasn't going anywhere when set up. Probably reduced my bag weight by 25% when I sold it lol. Cracking piece of kit though.
It is with me. Trying to avoid being the skint bloke with the large hernia and slipped discs. How much?
In reply to Post #24
With weight, a lot of anglers are quick to say "it's only a couple of kilos", but once you start that you quickly end up with 20kgs of extra weight on the barrow.
I bought the cheap cygnet stuff years back and have replaced a lot less than I thought I would
With weight, a lot of anglers are quick to say "it's only a couple of kilos", but once you start that you quickly end up with 20kgs of extra weight on the barrow.
I bought the cheap cygnet stuff years back and have replaced a lot less than I thought I would
As bankware is something that is designed to be pushed/hammered(?!) into gravelly hard ground, and remain stable when supporting 3 rods and overly massive reels, then stainless in my eyes is the only logical option.
I used jag prolite to save on weight, and although it is robust for aluminium, it still doesn't have that satisfying solid feel to it. I then momentarily flirted with Century carbon, and after one session and shoving the pretty carbon sticks into gravel, I see the light and sold it. MPE titanium was excellent and I regretfully sold it as I was made an offer I couldn't refuse.
I'm now back to faithful Jag stainless, and although it may have added an extra pound or two to my kit, I know that it'll out last me!
I used jag prolite to save on weight, and although it is robust for aluminium, it still doesn't have that satisfying solid feel to it. I then momentarily flirted with Century carbon, and after one session and shoving the pretty carbon sticks into gravel, I see the light and sold it. MPE titanium was excellent and I regretfully sold it as I was made an offer I couldn't refuse.
I'm now back to faithful Jag stainless, and although it may have added an extra pound or two to my kit, I know that it'll out last me!
Didn't realise there was a suggestion that stainless may of gone out of fashion. Just shows how much out of touch I am 