In reply to Post #15
I used the t1 from the very early days, as did a lot of my mates. Mark fished the same waters as us and one of my mates worked for baitcraft. At one of the shows I grabbed a handful of it and took it back to my mate. He used it a lot as well. I gave him the samples I'd picked up. He looked at them, broke them open, sniffed them and then asked me what it was! Same as me he didn't even recognise it. When I said T1 he laughed.
I've got no doubt the new owner probably does genuinely believe it's the same bait. I'm sure he's a nice guy and I'm sure he's not deliberately trying to turn people over. But from my experience like I said it didn't seem to be the same colour, texture or smell.
I'd dearly love the original mix. Same as I'd love the original active8 mix. Wouldn't we all.
I used the t1 from the very early days, as did a lot of my mates. Mark fished the same waters as us and one of my mates worked for baitcraft. At one of the shows I grabbed a handful of it and took it back to my mate. He used it a lot as well. I gave him the samples I'd picked up. He looked at them, broke them open, sniffed them and then asked me what it was! Same as me he didn't even recognise it. When I said T1 he laughed.
I've got no doubt the new owner probably does genuinely believe it's the same bait. I'm sure he's a nice guy and I'm sure he's not deliberately trying to turn people over. But from my experience like I said it didn't seem to be the same colour, texture or smell.
I'd dearly love the original mix. Same as I'd love the original active8 mix. Wouldn't we all.
In reply to Post #16
Interesting, thanks for all the replies.
Interesting, thanks for all the replies.
In reply to Post #16
Interesting. When was the show that you went to?
Interesting. When was the show that you went to?
In reply to Post #18
I can't remember which one it was now. I'd guess ether the big one at farnbourgh or the northern. I don't think it was Sandown.
I can't remember which one it was now. I'd guess ether the big one at farnbourgh or the northern. I don't think it was Sandown.
In reply to Post #19
Super K was the one for me, I caught everywhere where i used it, whether straight out of the bag, pop ups or glugged, it was an absolute winner for me. Then it changed, the baits became so soft i couldnt even put them on the hair without splitting. Moved away from them after that, shame, as an absolute winner....still got a pot of the ordiginal glugged wafters in the fridge for those memories.
Super K was the one for me, I caught everywhere where i used it, whether straight out of the bag, pop ups or glugged, it was an absolute winner for me. Then it changed, the baits became so soft i couldnt even put them on the hair without splitting. Moved away from them after that, shame, as an absolute winner....still got a pot of the ordiginal glugged wafters in the fridge for those memories.
In reply to Post #20
Super K was a awesome bait. As were all of Marks baits. Shame how it all ended up. Be fantastic if the recipe's were made available or they were again, for sale in the original format.
Super K was a awesome bait. As were all of Marks baits. Shame how it all ended up. Be fantastic if the recipe's were made available or they were again, for sale in the original format.
In reply to Post #19
No I mean WHEN was it!?
No I mean WHEN was it!?
In reply to Post #1
I admit to having no first hand experience of baitcraft in any form but I found the comments on the new website by the MD interesting.
He eludes to the fact on more than one occasion the original owner couldn't be trusted but he clearly trusted him enough to assume he was given the original recipe?
Also "we worked with some serious bait gurus to bring back the bait in its original form?" Surely if they had the recipe and list of suppliers for the ingredients they were nearly there. The suggestion bait gurus were needed suggests to me the bait was tweaked or played with possibly as some Ingredients were no longer avaialable or no longer cost affective?
Lastly any company that has to advertise for 'bait testers' in order to shift their bait gets a no from me.
I admit to having no first hand experience of baitcraft in any form but I found the comments on the new website by the MD interesting.
He eludes to the fact on more than one occasion the original owner couldn't be trusted but he clearly trusted him enough to assume he was given the original recipe?
Also "we worked with some serious bait gurus to bring back the bait in its original form?" Surely if they had the recipe and list of suppliers for the ingredients they were nearly there. The suggestion bait gurus were needed suggests to me the bait was tweaked or played with possibly as some Ingredients were no longer avaialable or no longer cost affective?
Lastly any company that has to advertise for 'bait testers' in order to shift their bait gets a no from me.
In reply to Post #22
About 1.30pm i think
About 1.30pm i think
In reply to Post #23
I used the original t1, think it was called ultimate shellfish originally. Know 2 lads that worked for him, had an order turn up different a few years down the line shortly after they moved premises, then both lads I knew that worked for him also stopped using the bait for there own fishing and bought from elsewhere. That was warning enough for me, a lot of talk about ingredients becoming unavailable, machines not being able to roll certain pastes, this that the other, more like £££ notes flashed infront of his eyes. Not a chance the bait being produced now is the same, despite claims, as far as I'm concerned if the md of a bait manufacturing company has to get a bait guru in to design his bait for him, it doesn't really sell you much confidence.
Far better, proven baits about, made by people that have lifetimes worth of knowledge to back it up.
I used the original t1, think it was called ultimate shellfish originally. Know 2 lads that worked for him, had an order turn up different a few years down the line shortly after they moved premises, then both lads I knew that worked for him also stopped using the bait for there own fishing and bought from elsewhere. That was warning enough for me, a lot of talk about ingredients becoming unavailable, machines not being able to roll certain pastes, this that the other, more like £££ notes flashed infront of his eyes. Not a chance the bait being produced now is the same, despite claims, as far as I'm concerned if the md of a bait manufacturing company has to get a bait guru in to design his bait for him, it doesn't really sell you much confidence.
Far better, proven baits about, made by people that have lifetimes worth of knowledge to back it up.
In reply to Post #25
I suspect we know the same two people
I suspect we know the same two people
In reply to Post #24
🙄 no need to be a dick head.
Quite obviously, I'm asking which year it was.
This year, two years ago, 8 years ago. You get the idea....
Maybe you'd rather not answer, for some reason 🤔
🙄 no need to be a dick head.
Quite obviously, I'm asking which year it was.
This year, two years ago, 8 years ago. You get the idea....
Maybe you'd rather not answer, for some reason 🤔
In reply to Post #27
If it was at sandown then it would have been a couple of years ago. If it was the big one or NAS then last year
If it was at sandown then it would have been a couple of years ago. If it was the big one or NAS then last year
In reply to Post #28
Thank you for the reply.
Thank you for the reply.
Used the original for years and caught everywhere I took it , then mark changed something , it was a different colour and texture and just stank of salmon oil .... had a look at the bankbug version out of interest and in no way shape or form does it resemble the original t1