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Threat of dismissal (23 posts / 1,275 views)
duggs
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Post #16 7 Apr 2020 18:47
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I'd imagine for a nursery, shutting down for a few weeks would mean a huge loss, and massive costs to start up again. Would this business remain solvent after that?
scozza
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Post #17 7 Apr 2020 19:19
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In reply to Post #16
I guess that's the unfortunate and sad side to all of this, same with any business, but I would say, what's more important, peoples health or somebody's pocket?

If they are still operating they need to make sure they comply with the recommendations otherwise they could kill somebody, that's the sad reality

duggs
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Post #18 7 Apr 2020 19:56
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Of course, these are crazy times, we've all got to look after ourselves, but it sounds like the sort of firm that'll likely fold if they shut down, I'd be looking at it and deciding whether it's possible and safe to keep going, getting enough employees together to press the message to management. If they can't comply with the safety measures I'd be out the door.
I don't really get what the guy is hoping for, he won't be furloughed while the firm are still operating, and if they close he probably wouldn't have a job anyway.

I haven't been employed by a company in a bloody long time so my thoughts may not comply with modern hr practices
scozza
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Post #19 7 Apr 2020 20:30
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In reply to Post #18
Similar thoughts to me mate, I would be gone. The good news is, it sounds like you are working for a decent company, priceless these day mate
duggs
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Post #20 7 Apr 2020 20:33
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In reply to Post #19
My boss is a bit of a **** tbh

I work for myself
Old-Cornishman
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Post #21 7 Apr 2020 21:20
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In reply to Post #18
The firm would definitely not fold for want of a years profit. Also they could easily run with a skeleton staff to maintain existing plants and when the lockdown finished then with a little work would be running again.
I've had a couple of conversations with mates of mine still working there, everyone is worried especially as what they are doing is in reality unsafe but they are pretending to comply to regulations. My lad has refused to work as he is concerned about spreading infection but is alone in this. No one else will stand up to the management as they are quite ruthless. He is happy to be unpaid at this time or worse case even be unemployed rather than forsake his principles. Presumably others are not or do not want to risk their jobs.
One major problem apart from staying 2 metres apart is that trays, trolleys etc are passed from person to person every few seconds so an easy transition path for the virus if it gets there.
I've read some interesting guidelines today for production of decorative plants and they are classed as non essential in France Belgium, Germany and the UK. Other countries such as the USA deem them essential for some reason.
scozza
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Post #22 8 Apr 2020 06:55
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In reply to Post #20
Nuff said
The_Andyman The_Andyman
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Post #23 8 Apr 2020 21:06
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If he has been there for less than 2 years he will have pretty much no protection anyway, they could use any reason to let him go I think.

I'm fairly sure that there are still lots of non key professions running, not all businesses have been closed down. I think the current rules are to work from home if you can, but if this is not possible then in to work you go.

Madness as pictured most days with tube trains in London being packed etc. Building sites still running as normal and lots of other workers.

But good for him sticking to realising that his health is more important
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