Bait boats can be a brilliant bit of kit. Casting to a tree line or snags . Only takes one Bad cast and the peg could be ruined for the day. Bait boat with little disturbance gets you there first time. There's bait boats for all peoples costs and abilities.
Biggest is as mentioned , people using them to go 4 pegs Down Around the corner over the jungle climbing frame, On to the Bar.
If used with respect and within reason there brilliant.
Biggest is as mentioned , people using them to go 4 pegs Down Around the corner over the jungle climbing frame, On to the Bar.
If used with respect and within reason there brilliant.
In reply to Post #16
Only takes one Bad cast and the peg could be ruined for the day. Bait boat with little disturbance gets you there first time.
See for me that is replacing skill with tech buddy.
Is there a place for bait boats? Probably. For disabled anglers defo. For extreme range maybe.
But to replace angling skill is a complete cop out imo.
Only takes one Bad cast and the peg could be ruined for the day. Bait boat with little disturbance gets you there first time.
See for me that is replacing skill with tech buddy.
Is there a place for bait boats? Probably. For disabled anglers defo. For extreme range maybe.
But to replace angling skill is a complete cop out imo.
In reply to Post #17
Yeah I agree 100% , should always learn the trade first. But after 10 years there's tools to be used to do the job easier.
I'd encourage anyone to perfect casting over boats. But if your on a day session one bad cast or casting 3 times to creep towards snags or trees could be all it takes to ruin the day.
Yeah I agree 100% , should always learn the trade first. But after 10 years there's tools to be used to do the job easier.
I'd encourage anyone to perfect casting over boats. But if your on a day session one bad cast or casting 3 times to creep towards snags or trees could be all it takes to ruin the day.
In reply to Post #17
100% agree.
100% agree.
In reply to Post #17
Nail on the head Yonny mate
. My missus could drive a boat to an island/far bank.
Nail on the head Yonny mate
. My missus could drive a boat to an island/far bank.
While I love my boat I can understand why they get banned. Firstly (irks me to admit this) they aren't really an "at one with nature" kind of thing and to lots of anglers they are an a front to the peace and quiet and general scenery. Some think that they don't need skill or are lazy angling. Those people clearly have no experience of using a remote control boat or they've never really seen one used well. Also you do get the odd tool with them and in the hands of a tool they can create a lot of un needed disturbance and can even be downright dangerous. Some people just don't like new fangled things and would rather everyone still used wooden rods and cat gut.
The poor people cast argument isn't really true but is still funny as hell and usually gets a bite on facey
The poor people cast argument isn't really true but is still funny as hell and usually gets a bite on facey
In reply to Post #21
In my opinion banning boats puts everyone on a level playing field. It's the fact that incredibly average anglers can make themselves look good by using a boat that doesn't sit right in my eyes.
Take Tranters example, a tricky cast to a visible feature. If boats are banned the better angler will always catch more as a direct result of their skill. Add a boat into the equation and someone who's never even held a rod would have the same odds.
In my opinion banning boats puts everyone on a level playing field. It's the fact that incredibly average anglers can make themselves look good by using a boat that doesn't sit right in my eyes.
Take Tranters example, a tricky cast to a visible feature. If boats are banned the better angler will always catch more as a direct result of their skill. Add a boat into the equation and someone who's never even held a rod would have the same odds.
In reply to Post #22
Yeah I see your point and makes sense. The other day I found a clear area on a far margin. Could bait up and see it perfect from the margin. Casting to it was 110 yards in a cross wind. I knew this would take a few casts to get near to where I'd be happy. Used the boat and was on the spot first time. No disturbance and caught. Where as casting may have ruined the swim for hours or completely.
For me I'm there to catch fish not prove I can cast 110 yards. Again I've fished for 20+ years and would always promote learning before technology. But I wouldn't not use what's there to be used either.
Yeah I see your point and makes sense. The other day I found a clear area on a far margin. Could bait up and see it perfect from the margin. Casting to it was 110 yards in a cross wind. I knew this would take a few casts to get near to where I'd be happy. Used the boat and was on the spot first time. No disturbance and caught. Where as casting may have ruined the swim for hours or completely.
For me I'm there to catch fish not prove I can cast 110 yards. Again I've fished for 20+ years and would always promote learning before technology. But I wouldn't not use what's there to be used either.
In reply to Post #22
It doesnt though. so and so can afford better rods, so and so has more experience, so and so can be a time bandit etc etc.
You still need to know how do things like finding the fish, feeling the bottom with a lead, moving onto showing fish etc etc to catch using a boat. It just makes certain aspects slightly easier. This is balanced by the fact that boats tend to be a right pain in the ass to use, they are slow, you need to lug them and the batteries around, TBH casting for me is a lot easier and more convenient than using the boat but the boat catches me a LOT more fish.
It doesnt though. so and so can afford better rods, so and so has more experience, so and so can be a time bandit etc etc.
You still need to know how do things like finding the fish, feeling the bottom with a lead, moving onto showing fish etc etc to catch using a boat. It just makes certain aspects slightly easier. This is balanced by the fact that boats tend to be a right pain in the ass to use, they are slow, you need to lug them and the batteries around, TBH casting for me is a lot easier and more convenient than using the boat but the boat catches me a LOT more fish.
In reply to Post #17
I take your point, but, I was in a syndicate where there were swans & a bait boat ban, baited up, wait, the swans cleared it all, if I had been able to use a boat I would have baited up with that then cast my rig, however I did think of a way where I pushed a plastic tube through a bush into the water & rolled the boillies down to the margin then go round and cast, only 1 splash so the swans didn't investigate, I know that can't be done everywhere but sometimes we have to think outside of the box
I take your point, but, I was in a syndicate where there were swans & a bait boat ban, baited up, wait, the swans cleared it all, if I had been able to use a boat I would have baited up with that then cast my rig, however I did think of a way where I pushed a plastic tube through a bush into the water & rolled the boillies down to the margin then go round and cast, only 1 splash so the swans didn't investigate, I know that can't be done everywhere but sometimes we have to think outside of the box
In reply to Post #25
That we'll know noddy Terry Hearne has used them .
That we'll know noddy Terry Hearne has used them .
In reply to Post #13
Such sarcasm actually
Such sarcasm actually
In reply to Post #22
I don't get the level playing field comment. Well I do but this is not an Olympic sport it's a hobby after all and if they are allowed anglers who have them should be allowed to use them and enjoy them. They should be used responsibly for example against snags but it is no different to fishing against snags anyway and at least you don't get numpties casting into trees and snapping off into the lake. You also wouldn't get the numpties spombing all over the place either.
It comes down to good baliffing for me, if anyone is on a lake taking the piss they they could be stopped.
I use mine for fishing long range (open water) on big waters and for my pike fishing in the Lake District where it is very difficult to cast large dead baits over drop offs on some waters.
I don't get the level playing field comment. Well I do but this is not an Olympic sport it's a hobby after all and if they are allowed anglers who have them should be allowed to use them and enjoy them. They should be used responsibly for example against snags but it is no different to fishing against snags anyway and at least you don't get numpties casting into trees and snapping off into the lake. You also wouldn't get the numpties spombing all over the place either.
It comes down to good baliffing for me, if anyone is on a lake taking the piss they they could be stopped.
I use mine for fishing long range (open water) on big waters and for my pike fishing in the Lake District where it is very difficult to cast large dead baits over drop offs on some waters.
In reply to Post #28
That's my point. They'll never be and never need to be a level playing field. We don't use the same bait or 12ft rods, some use 13fts to help them cast or better more expensive line for example. Some use deepers where some use marker Rods. Should one be banned for using technology.
Comes down to personal choice and what the lake allows.
That's my point. They'll never be and never need to be a level playing field. We don't use the same bait or 12ft rods, some use 13fts to help them cast or better more expensive line for example. Some use deepers where some use marker Rods. Should one be banned for using technology.
Comes down to personal choice and what the lake allows.
In reply to Post #25
@luckyjim, that's genius mate. A thinking angler
@luckyjim, that's genius mate. A thinking angler