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Hormones the Truth. (295 posts / 29,826 views)
Grexory Grexory
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Post #282 3 Jun 2024 09:30
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Innocent until proven guilty.
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #283 3 Jun 2024 09:50
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yep I agree, but even our criminal justice system has put people innocent people in prison based on what people have said and what it looks like, because they didnt prove themselves innocent.

End of the day you arent going to make everyone think your way so youre wasting your time trying. Especially when you look like a wally doing it.
Grexory Grexory
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Post #284 3 Jun 2024 10:30
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but even our criminal justice system has put people innocent people in prison based on what people have said and what it looks like, because they didnt prove themselves innocent.

So what?

Do you think that should give people a license, to go around propagating spurious unfounded allegations against named individuals, without any proof or evidence?
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #285 3 Jun 2024 10:59
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Didn't say that did I, just stated a fact. It happens, plenty of innocent people get locked up because of it. Loads of guilty people get away with things because there's no evidence against them too.

People have said they know stuff but don't want to release that to the public, that's on them. End of the day you cant prove they did use it because its in the past and any evidence is gone now. Doesn't mean you cant think that it has been used and be wary of what people are doing and saying in the future.

If you want to fully trust what people tell you then that's up to you. Not everyone is choosing to do that and it's something you've got to come to terms with and get over.
Grexory Grexory
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Post #286 3 Jun 2024 11:43
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People have said they know stuff but don't want to release that to the public, that's on them.

The end result of all of this nonsense, is that it has been released to the public - in this very thread, if you scroll down, specific individual people have been named directly.

All of on the basis of no evidence, no proof, nothing whatsoever - other than conjecture.

I don't think that's fair at all.

Wayne Wayne
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Post #287 3 Jun 2024 11:48
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If you want to fully trust what people tell you then that's up to you

What like "Trust the science".........
Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #288 3 Jun 2024 11:59
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sadly life isnt fair. People have seen what they've seen and told others so others can make up their mind about it in whichever way they choose.

Those individuals named are all still earning money, all still fishing, all still have sponsorships, all still have platforms to engage on. The days keep ticking by and we are all still here.

It's been a long time since the initial scandal, it was forgotten about, why on earth they decided to bring it back up is beyond me.
Grexory Grexory
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Post #289 3 Jun 2024 12:28
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sadly life isnt fair. People have seen what they've seen and told others so others can make up their mind about it in whichever way they choose.

Life isn't fair - but that's no excuse to propagate stories (which are almost certainly false), have no evidence, no proof - that relate to named individuals, that will have negatively impact them.

That's simply callous, disrespectful - and frankly stupid.

It's also potentially slanderous and could easily result in people being dragged into court.
Leeroyjenkins Leeroyjenkins
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Post #290 3 Jun 2024 12:34
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An attitude like that is how many awful awful people got away with doing awful things for a very long time.

Greekskii Greekskii
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Post #291 3 Jun 2024 12:50
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everyone is entitled to believe what they want. You believe it cant be true, thats you. I believe it potentially is possible to use it, thats me. Others believe certain individuals have used it, thats them.
You cant force everyone to agree with you and think the same as you. Sooner you realise that, the easier your life will be
Grexory Grexory
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Post #292 3 Jun 2024 13:06
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An attitude like what?

Refusing to name or propagate a story from social media due to a lack of proof and evidence, out of respect that the people involved are probably innocent?

I think my version of common sense, is better than yours.
frothey frothey
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Post #293 3 Jun 2024 17:53
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I blame Brexit....

I also think that anyone that believes in any religion is a complete F**kwit. Where's the proof?
scozza
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Post #294 3 Jun 2024 19:15
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You never heard of Jesus, raised from the dead, walked on water and used hormones to catch carp

Singlebleep Singlebleep
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Site deviant...
Site deviant... Post #295 3 Jun 2024 20:37
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That Lazarus guy was dodgy as well. Those in the know reckon he was a benefits cheat
Tyto
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Post #296 3 Jun 2024 22:31
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And last but not least - most of the time, the fish it attracts are sexually immature adolescent fish, it doesn't work with adult carp

What is your source for this information ? The studies which I have read state the exact opposite and so it's the sexually mature, spermiated males which are attracted to the pheromone cue, often accompanied by other adult females in the vicinity. It doesn't make biological sense for sexually immature fish to seek out a spawning cue.
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