In reply to Post #214
At a guess 10 ft
At a guess 10 ft
In reply to Post #212
I think it's solely down to exposure on social media. I have used a lure rod for a few years now on small ponds for small carp and it serves a purpose. It's about getting the balance right between functionality and enjoyment. Sometimes the situation dictates hook and hold, and I don't think a lot of smaller rods are suitable as you can't get that leverage when fishing under tree canopies, like being able to stick the rod tip under the water to avoid tree branches. In the videos I've seen, it often looks like the angler is clinging on for dear life with the rod tip going absolutely bananas. Not really ideal for preventing a carp from tethering itself resulting in a nasty death.
Bit extreme example perhaps, but i'd rather use a broom handle knowing that I will 100% have the strength and control to prevent that fish from getting in the snags.
Even when catching good pike on the 8ft lure rod, I never feel totally in control of the situation with a rod that short. Vast difference in playing experience dead baiting with a 12ft rod.
I think it's solely down to exposure on social media. I have used a lure rod for a few years now on small ponds for small carp and it serves a purpose. It's about getting the balance right between functionality and enjoyment. Sometimes the situation dictates hook and hold, and I don't think a lot of smaller rods are suitable as you can't get that leverage when fishing under tree canopies, like being able to stick the rod tip under the water to avoid tree branches. In the videos I've seen, it often looks like the angler is clinging on for dear life with the rod tip going absolutely bananas. Not really ideal for preventing a carp from tethering itself resulting in a nasty death.
Bit extreme example perhaps, but i'd rather use a broom handle knowing that I will 100% have the strength and control to prevent that fish from getting in the snags.
Even when catching good pike on the 8ft lure rod, I never feel totally in control of the situation with a rod that short. Vast difference in playing experience dead baiting with a 12ft rod.
In reply to Post #216
That's more to do with the action and power of the blank. Shorter rods are stronger and apply more force when comparing apples to apples
You could fly fish for tarpon with a 15' salmon rod, what with sometimes being miles from any structure; but they use 9' or less exclusively
No snags in the ocean either but I've never seen a charter boat with 12' rods
That's more to do with the action and power of the blank. Shorter rods are stronger and apply more force when comparing apples to apples
You could fly fish for tarpon with a 15' salmon rod, what with sometimes being miles from any structure; but they use 9' or less exclusively
No snags in the ocean either but I've never seen a charter boat with 12' rods
In reply to Post #217
Sea fishing matches often see angler using 12ft rods now especially on some of the species hunt competitions with anglers scratching for as many species as possible.
Sea fishing matches often see angler using 12ft rods now especially on some of the species hunt competitions with anglers scratching for as many species as possible.
In reply to Post #218
I have used 12' rods for sea fishing since the 60's. The trend is now the continental style with 14' to 15' rods.
But, are you talking boat or beach?
On a boat, it's easier to swing a fish in with a short rod unless you want to hold a long rod high up and then risk breaking the rod top, or try and swing it in sideways and probably smack someone in the face with a Cod further down the side of the boat. On the beach, the long rod will put out a lead a long way with less effort.
And I have never seen anyone with a 12' rod on a boat. Unless your float fishing for mullet with a match fishing Rod.
I have used 12' rods for sea fishing since the 60's. The trend is now the continental style with 14' to 15' rods.
But, are you talking boat or beach?
On a boat, it's easier to swing a fish in with a short rod unless you want to hold a long rod high up and then risk breaking the rod top, or try and swing it in sideways and probably smack someone in the face with a Cod further down the side of the boat. On the beach, the long rod will put out a lead a long way with less effort.
And I have never seen anyone with a 12' rod on a boat. Unless your float fishing for mullet with a match fishing Rod.
In reply to Post #219
You actually get more leveragepower with a sorter Rod.
There was an comparison in a swedish flymagazine a few years ago. A 15fot salmonrod hade less power than a ninefot Rod.
You actually get more leveragepower with a sorter Rod.
There was an comparison in a swedish flymagazine a few years ago. A 15fot salmonrod hade less power than a ninefot Rod.
In reply to Post #219
Yes, longer rods excel at casting leads. Shorter rods generate more leverage in our favour..
As I've said before we are a stubborn nut/bolt offering the fish spanners of varying lengths to undo us. Any guesses which one physics determines works against us?
Bigger fish = shorter rods
Every inch of rod is detrimental to applying force. Try pulling for a break in a tree with the rod bent, you'll soon point it directly at the snag and walk backwards.
Grabbed the blank half way with a fish at the net for the final lunges and felt more in control? Because you're applying force with a 5-6' rod essentially
Yes, longer rods excel at casting leads. Shorter rods generate more leverage in our favour..
As I've said before we are a stubborn nut/bolt offering the fish spanners of varying lengths to undo us. Any guesses which one physics determines works against us?
Bigger fish = shorter rods
Every inch of rod is detrimental to applying force. Try pulling for a break in a tree with the rod bent, you'll soon point it directly at the snag and walk backwards.
Grabbed the blank half way with a fish at the net for the final lunges and felt more in control? Because you're applying force with a 5-6' rod essentially
In reply to Post #219
Boat comps.
Boat comps.
In reply to Post #220
Horses 4 courses, use whats best 4 u , done some canal work I just cant get on with short ones, its me, I find swinging out a bait with a 12 ft er so much more accurate and playing if I have room with a 12 ft is so much more in control,
Horses 4 courses, use whats best 4 u , done some canal work I just cant get on with short ones, its me, I find swinging out a bait with a 12 ft er so much more accurate and playing if I have room with a 12 ft is so much more in control,
In reply to Post #222
>>>>>Grabbed the blank half way with a fish at the net for the final lunges and felt more in control? Because you're applying force with a 5-6' rod essentially<<<<<
Its a well known method for playing a fish that goes back donkey years. To apply more pressure on a fish, just let go of the reel handle (ensure anti reverse is on though) and hold the rod further up from the rod handle with that hand but also keep your other hand on the rod handle in its usual place.
>>>>>Grabbed the blank half way with a fish at the net for the final lunges and felt more in control? Because you're applying force with a 5-6' rod essentially<<<<<
Its a well known method for playing a fish that goes back donkey years. To apply more pressure on a fish, just let go of the reel handle (ensure anti reverse is on though) and hold the rod further up from the rod handle with that hand but also keep your other hand on the rod handle in its usual place.
In reply to Post #225
I have 2 Harrison torrix custom 10' soon as I used them the tip snapped on one sent it back to tackle box via a currier and they replaced it within days,also have 2 dwarf scopes to go light if I'm after some carp in the morning or late evening's as I travel light,both great rods now looking for some 12' to target a spot in winter when I switch back to lakes where I can't reach with my 10' rods.
I have 2 Harrison torrix custom 10' soon as I used them the tip snapped on one sent it back to tackle box via a currier and they replaced it within days,also have 2 dwarf scopes to go light if I'm after some carp in the morning or late evening's as I travel light,both great rods now looking for some 12' to target a spot in winter when I switch back to lakes where I can't reach with my 10' rods.