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Greekskii Greekskii
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#196 21 Jul 2020 15:41
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Are we all aware Tory MPs have voted against keeping the NHS in ownership of the British public?

The MSM blackout of it is frightening, bit odd considering all tories feel the MSM is totally against them...clearly not the case.

#CorbynWasRight trending strong on social media right now, hopefully followed by #EggOnYourFace
ocelot ocelot
Posts: 1,802
#197 21 Jul 2020 16:55
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In reply to Post #194
How embarrassing but predictable. Russia will always try to destabilize the UK/EU/ USA that's a given. For us to be cowed by Russian money sloshing around London is unacceptable. Let's see the government response towards Russia and not the report.
fishie fishie
Posts: 1,771
#198 21 Jul 2020 16:58
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In reply to Post #196
No defending of Tories or Boris here, but this blackout is so good but you managed to find it and obviously you are better than the Guardian, Independent and the MSM who all hate the Tories and Boris

Why hopefully followed by eggonyourface if its true its true!

Wouldn't it be on every news outlet now! As of 1 minute ago it was only trending on Twitter that great moral compass and news source.
Greekskii Greekskii
Posts: 3,434
#199 21 Jul 2020 17:14
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In reply to Post #198
Are you saying it isnt real? Bit odd the house of commons twitter account announced the results if it's all fake.

Egg on your face for those that denied it would happen and vigorously defended the tories stating they would never do anything like that...clearly all looking a bit foolish right now, after saying the leaked report was all lies and fake news.

The fact it ISNT on MSM shows how worryingly corrupt MSM is. Why arent they running the story? Is it not in the public interest to know what has happened? Not even the lefty rags reporting it...something stinks does it not? Maybe straying in to conspiracy theory territory but lets be honest, it isn't a theory, its obvious corruption and social manipulation, it's real.
fishie fishie
Posts: 1,771
#200 21 Jul 2020 17:34
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In reply to Post #199
No i'm not saying it isn't real, and you say the MSM are hiding this, the same MSM who wet their pants over Cummings and his eyesight test

Oh you mean the Tories voted down amendments to a trade deal which doesn't protect or INCLUDE the NHS. Why didn't you say so rather than the cloak and dagger Jeremywasright sh@t.

The guardian and independent have had 24 hours to report this and haven't bothered I wonder why, maybe because its not worth reporting on at this stage. The same 2 papers who didn't check their sources over the Cummings debacle in a rush to get the story out.

If those 2 aren't bothered nor am I

Im off for my dinner
Greekskii Greekskii
Posts: 3,434
#201 21 Jul 2020 19:46
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In reply to Post #200
MPs voted to not protect the NHS from foreign purchase. The amendment was to protect it from this in the trade bill so it couldn't be put on the table. By explicitly voting against protecting it, it means they are open to it being sold off as part of a trade deal. If that wasn't an intention then just vote to protect it as it makes no difference? Especially seeing how much they love to praise the NHS staff but not actually show any gratitude apart from a worthless clap.

You might believe that it is nothing to worry about, maybe you will once it's all signed and sealed without anyone knowing until after pen is put to paper...you know when it's too late.

MSM not picking it up is worrying yes, world news have, itv have... why haven't the MSM? The sun has but F them. The mirror did too. If they can run stories about Nigel who got his hand stuck in a usb slot or some Z list celeb going to the shop in trackies or whatever tripe they deem ‘news' but not this then it is worrying as someone is trying to not let the masses know about it. Wouldn't fit Murdochs agenda for sure...

henrtopcarper henrtopcarper
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#202 21 Jul 2020 21:11
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In reply to Post #193
I have to agree Scozza
What an absolute mess Iraq has turned into, the Iraqi people have suffered incredible injustice at the hands of the so called western democracies and for what?
Can you believe that some of those people in that documentary actually preferred life under a brutal dictator like Saddam than what has gone since, at least they had running water and electricity and lived in some form of relative safety depending of course on what tribe you come from, Sunni or Shia, but it clearly had descended into chaos and violence that is far worse than it ever was under Saddam, you dont see much about it on the news these days but i suspect the violence continues at a level

Terribly sad stories of utter hopelessness is probably what drives the hatred of the West, both Bush and Blair have blood on their hands but politicians come and go, its the mess thats left behind that affects all of us. How on earth Blair was given the title of middle east peace envoy is beyond me!
Its particularly heart breaking to see the footage of the children in those war torn countries, children who should be playing, laughing enjoying an innocent childhood always look sad and bewildered and mentally scarred forever
fishie fishie
Posts: 1,771
#203 21 Jul 2020 21:23
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In reply to Post #201
It was a lovely dinner

"MSM not picking it up is worrying yes, world news have, itv have... why haven't the MSM? The sun has but F them. The mirror did too. If they can run stories about Nigel who got his hand stuck in a usb slot or some Z list celeb going to the shop in trackies or whatever tripe they deem ‘news' but not this then it is worrying as someone is trying to not let the masses know about it. Wouldn't fit Murdochs agenda for sure.."

So the 2 biggest Tory hating papers are ignoring it and you go on to list several news outlets reporting it so WTF is it a conspiratorial blackout or not! It cant be a blackout if its in Hansard, tweeted by HoP and reported on by news outlets.

Maybe the G and I will pickup on it for tomorrows headlines or keep it on the blackout list not mentioning it
mal mal
Posts: 8,986
#204 21 Jul 2020 23:52
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In reply to Post #202
Absolutely

Blair took us to war on a lie and the destruction of the infrastructure and subsequent awards for rebuild to certain vested interests added insult to injury.

I was touring a political play that touched on aspects of it all around the time and in talk back sessions we discussed the fact that Blair had a heart bypass at the time he sent people off to die and kill knowing that he had misled us all. The metaphoric idea of his heart being bypassed so he didn't have to feel for anyone was a recurring theme.

Mentioned the movie 'official secrets' recently. Well worth a watch
scozza
Posts: 18,420
#205 22 Jul 2020 06:24
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In reply to Post #202
Nice to hear you have watched it mate, terrible situation and echo what you have said but that's America for you, own gains only, went in,,took him out and left the rest to sort itself out. Did nothing for humanity and the Iraqi people and that's what is wrong

Very interesting how they let the population rob all the banks and shops etc and the only building they protected was the ministry of oil was it. Said that at the time, oil was the underlying factor

Funny how Saudi has destroyed the Yemen and killed 100,000s too and nobody has blinked an eyelid
Greekskii Greekskii
Posts: 3,434
#206 22 Jul 2020 06:43
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In reply to Post #203
The news outlets that feed the masses their opinions have as a majority, ignored it. They were all over It when this exact thing was bought up in the leaked report, calling it absolute rubbish, yet now, when people are overwhelmingly supporting the NHS during the pandemic, they won't tell them what's just happened.

A majority of people won't have heard about it due to the news sources they access not reporting it. Do you really think the MSM work for the people? They work for the highest bidder. Regardless of political bias.
Jon Jon
Posts: 4,294
#207 22 Jul 2020 10:03
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So the Russian bot farms pumping out ******** about Turkey joining the EU, an imminent EU army demanding national service for all youngsters and hundreds of similar stories were probably responsible for getting all the nutters out from under their rocks to swing the brexit ref, but no one wanted to actually find out, 'cos that would have made for an awkward atmosphere when having lunch with their Russian mates and pocketing the cheques for donations to party funds.

Meanwhile, the EU have agreed a 750 billion Euro recovery fund with cash going to the countries with the highest death rates. In the famous words of Jim Bowen 'UK, Look at what you could have won...'
ocelot ocelot
Posts: 1,802
#208 22 Jul 2020 10:21
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In reply to Post #205
Those Wahhabi Sunni Saudis are our mates so look away and keep sending the bullets. Same with the rich Russian's and Chinese investment, look away. Lay with dogs you'll get flea's.
spanker spanker
Posts: 1,446
#209 22 Jul 2020 10:48
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One man was never a threat , the other is a massive threat , as proven recently , this lot are rotten to the core !




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Jon Jon
Posts: 4,294
#210 22 Jul 2020 11:00
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Corbyn was never a threat to anyone. Including the worst Tory pm for ages, Theresa May. Unfortunately.
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