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sundance sundance
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Post #151 2 Sep 2022 21:35
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2012 Grant Schapps
That figures ...
JasonM JasonM
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Post #152 2 Sep 2022 21:44
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_High_Speed_2
Stokebloke Stokebloke
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Post #153 3 Sep 2022 10:33
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The technology your referring to is not widespread and at present is not cost effective. So for now we carry on shovelling them into the ground which is unacceptable.
Stokebloke Stokebloke
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Post #154 3 Sep 2022 10:40
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Yep things are shocking, especially your comment #121 which insinuates that anyone leaning to the right politically, is a Nazi. Quite offensive to some. I'm pretty sure even your digital policeman friends would be shaking their heads at that one!
scozza
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Post #155 3 Sep 2022 11:11
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Put the green stuff through lifecycle analysis and I bet most of iit is not at the races

Keeps the “green thinkers” happy though and people cashing in on it

I see they are building a wind farm the size of greater Manchester in the North Sea ffs, imagine that lot in 20 years time. I am all for protecting the planet but while the human population grows there is a need, or a least in the western world

Nuclear is viewed as dirty but the output compared with renewables outweighs the deficit for me, it's just dealing with the waste. We are crying out for me for somebody to invent an eco friendly high powered solar system, there could be one on every house, self efficient and sufficient

While ever we live in a disposable world and people want everything now we are totally ****ed. It's expected in the western world that we all have running water, heated water and all the lights on in the house as well as cookers, fridges, washing machines, toasters, kettles etc etc and still people moan!

All of our key resources should be government owned for me funded by our taxes, all they have ever done, especially the Conservative party is to sell it all off and wash there hands of it the ****ing useless ****s
mal mal
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Post #156 3 Sep 2022 11:45
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Apparently if you buy a new kettle you can save £10 per year and then everything will be OK....



Green and renewable isn't perfect. Nobody believes it is. But none of the arguments against it outweigh the situation with fossil fuels in terms of economic and ecology
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #157 3 Sep 2022 12:54
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Yes I see that , what a great leader he was , on to the next pile of ****
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #158 3 Sep 2022 12:54
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snapper1 snapper1
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Post #159 3 Sep 2022 12:54
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snapper1 snapper1
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Post #160 3 Sep 2022 12:54
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12 years in fukin charge and the **** says buy a new kettle
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #161 3 Sep 2022 12:54
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snapper1 snapper1
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Post #162 3 Sep 2022 12:54
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Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #163 3 Sep 2022 13:04
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I've not watched the speech and I'm not going to spend time finding and watching it but from what I can gather the kettle was a poor analogy with nuclear power.
I stand to be corrected but the analogy was nuclear power stations are initially very expensive to build but cheaper to run, so over the years they become cost effective. Same with initially buying kettle and its running costs.

If that's what was meant it was a rubbish analogy IMO but he'll be gone on Monday and he'll have a host of new media avenues to broadcast his gems.
Tinhead Tinhead
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Post #164 3 Sep 2022 13:07
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So what about an answer to my question

So should we change our thinking, use more of our own fossil fuels in the short term to help those in fuel poverty until more greener alternatives become available at a later date.
Or meet our own carbon neutral by buying energy from other countries who's green credentials may be questionable?


No good saying what we should have done to avoid the situation mistakes in the past have been made.
Should we become more fuel reliant by using our own fossil fuels?
mal mal
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Post #165 3 Sep 2022 13:32
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Short term... you say it yourself.

Short term thinking rewards Short term greed and facilitates the continued rip off of the poor while filling the coffees if huge businesses and their wealthy friends / parties they are in bed with.

None of it is helping those in fuel poverty

Edit - the head of OVO has come up with a checklist of ways to help the current situation. It's worth a read


https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62742303
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