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Ukraine and Russia (447 posts / 20,170 views)
ocelot ocelot
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Post #152 3 Mar 2022 22:34
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Putin's played his trump card on Zelensky, "humanitarian corridor's "
He has to agree to some form of.
Any resistance left is open to full unrestricted devastation or subjugation.
A relentless cleansing operation by Putin.
RKB
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Post #153 4 Mar 2022 07:59
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In reply to Post #145
Oh yeah, so what a great idea it is to invade Ukraine, a country that shares borders with NATO members.
deaffred deaffred
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Post #154 4 Mar 2022 08:52
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Sooner or later as it progresses NATO will get involved .

I give it 6 weeks when the devastation reaches critical and the world will change entirely .

It's very worrying times but it's unfolding before our very eyes .
Total lunacy 😔
Wayne Wayne
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Post #155 4 Mar 2022 10:01
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In reply to Post #151
Correct but they were not part of the USSR like the Ukraine.
ocelot ocelot
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Post #156 4 Mar 2022 10:25
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Think you'll find Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia were republics within the USSR, exactly like Ukraine. They're in NATO, like I say flawed.
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #157 4 Mar 2022 15:40
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You had better go watching all them fishing dvd's you love so much before you get nuked
Wayne Wayne
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Post #158 4 Mar 2022 16:51
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There piss pots compared to the motherland that is the Ukraine.......
deaffred deaffred
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Post #159 4 Mar 2022 17:39
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I'm not allowed to mention those DVD,s but glad you remembered 🤭
mal mal
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Post #160 4 Mar 2022 18:00
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I mean...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/04/no-10-sir-gavin-williamson-knighthood-boris-johnson-putin-cronies


Ffs.

He can still **** off
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #161 4 Mar 2022 18:06
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jhhilton1983 jhhilton1983
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Post #162 4 Mar 2022 19:41
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In reply to Post #156
They were in the USSR as you say.

The difference is that the Ukraine has a large amount of resources in comparison. Hence why he has gone for that.
ocelot ocelot
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Post #163 5 Mar 2022 13:08
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You think it's a war for resources? I can't see why the Russians would turn themselves into a pariah state for decades for resources. Who and what are they going to sell too to make the gain worth the pain?
mal mal
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Post #164 5 Mar 2022 13:20
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Call me cynical mate but...

They're going to sell to us. And everyone else they previously sold to once the dust settles and the various governments revert to type.

Boris might have got his hands on a few posh houses for his wealthy mates and some pesky foreigners might have their yachts moved on, but look at how putin was treated after his previous actions... contracts, major sports events, political influence (the UN security Council as an example)

Do you really think that huge pipeline through Germany isn't going to be resumed with Russian fuel at some point?

Is Essex going to become the breadbasket of the world overnight?

Like I said, it's cynical but even for someone who tries to see the best in people, I can't believe those in power will suddenly grow some integrity and morals.
ocelot ocelot
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Post #165 5 Mar 2022 13:46
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I get the cynicism Mal, it's justified. Fact is they are still selling to us right now. Yes that will continue, but under our terms, for product's we can't source elsewhere for now. I was more getting at what extra can they make from stealing Ukrainian resources, whilst losing a lot of trade they already had, that made starting an horrific war seem the right thing to do.

It makes very little economic sense
It makes very little strategic sense.
It makes very little ideological sense.
So it must make geopolitical sense. To Putin.
clicky clicky
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Post #166 5 Mar 2022 19:33
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we have this year alone deployed over 1000 marines to Norway culminating in exercise cold response..
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