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Impulse Liquid / Dr Patrick Mills (21 posts / 6,768 views)
JackWhitstable JackWhitstable
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Post #1 15 Oct 2024 13:04
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Has any used Liquid Impulse? Very interesting concept.

Superb podcast on Carp Chronicles with Sam and Dr Patrick Mills.

A friend has used it with good results.
Winkler
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Post #2 14 Nov 2024 08:55
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In reply to Post #1
I have some to try, not used it yet but will do over the winter on a notable tricky water. I've been aware of Patricks work in this area for years, even though I don't overly focus on AA's in my own baits, be an interesting exercise.. How is your friend using it?
braders1978 braders1978
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Post #3 14 Nov 2024 19:52
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In reply to Post #1
I have tried the Impulse Gel,I have not noticed anything special about it.I like the DNA amino smokes though,I have caught well on baits coated in that
Beyonce
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Post #4 14 Nov 2024 20:26
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Impulse Gel sounds like something you could buy from a vending machine in a motorway services toilet.
AndyCarper82 AndyCarper82
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Post #7 15 Nov 2024 13:41
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It didn't work for me.
SteveyT SteveyT
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Post #14 16 Nov 2024 15:18
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In reply to Post #1
Did a quick search on this stuff. The stuff has been made based on scientific research according to their site. The research I could find was an undergraduate project. It looks like it was tested once on a commercial venue. 2 spots were fished by different anglers on the same commercial lake. One using this stuff and the other not. The person using it outfished the person not using it. That's about as much as I got from it. The paper is here if you're interestedLINKY POO™ https://irp.cdn-website.com/73be3224/files/uploaded/Dissertation%20Edited.pdf

Edit: I've just seen the paper is from 2013 and may be a completely different product. Would be interesting to hear if anyone else has dug any deeper.
CV-Deano
Posts: 380
Post #15 16 Nov 2024 16:05
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In reply to Post #14
Search for the couple of podcasts Dr Mills did on the carp chronicles channel if you want to know a bit more about the development of it. Interesting
SteveyT SteveyT
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Post #16 16 Nov 2024 16:38
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In reply to Post #15
👍will have a listen
MARKerz
Posts: 1,954
Post #17 17 Nov 2024 08:56
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In reply to Post #1
Is it any better than supermarket / hydro liquids?

These sort of things pop up from time to time, they sound too good and say all the right stuff but from my experience so much stuff out there works, from very cheap to very expensive.
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
Posts: 1,425
Post #18 17 Nov 2024 09:08
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In reply to Post #1
This was the bloke who was behind the design of the Richworth S-Core liquid. After experimenting with it, I concluded it was utterly useless and if anything, a fish repellant.
In one of the BCSG mags, there was a long transcript of communication between Dr Mills and the late Harry Haskell....the learned Dr could not answer Harrys more detailed probing questions. That product was based on US waters that were full to the brim with small commons that were fished match style, where you would expect to get bites in 15 minutes or less, far far removed from what we do here.
Serenity
Posts: 870
Post #19 17 Nov 2024 10:24
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The idea that a certain group of amino acids will work anytime anywhere is fatally flawed. This just shows how ignorant the fish scientists are of what actually occurs in the wild. The persevering and investigative angler can discover many important facts unknown to the men in white coats. Carp in the wild change their food preference - macronutrients and their building blocks - several times in each 12 monthly period. Thus, the most stimulatory amino acids in, say, July are completely different to those in, say, November.
MARKerz
Posts: 1,954
Post #20 17 Nov 2024 11:13
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In reply to Post #19
Good to see you posting again, as usual ahead of the game, food for thought for me.
SteveyT SteveyT
Posts: 66
Post #21 17 Nov 2024 12:26
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In reply to Post #19
I suppose what a tank test can't tell you is these seasonal preferences, which no doubt change between locations as well. What it can tell you though, is exactly what molecules switch these receptors on, and to what degree. What happens after that in the brain to cause a behavioural response, I dont know if anyone knows. But, if like Dr.Mills suggests, it causes an involuntary feeding response, would environmental factors have much to do with this?
His claims do seem a stretch though IMO. And he is quite clear when asked anything outside his area of expertise (amino acids) that he will offer his best guess.
christian
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Post #22 17 Nov 2024 12:56
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Over the years through trial and error I am happy that I have a number of powdered ingredients that as they break down provide amino acids giving long term attraction. This of course does not help with initial amino acid attraction so generally I add ingredients to my mixes that have quantities of free amino acids. It's been my experience that the amino acids that are most prevalent in my powdered ingredients are the best attactors. The makers of impulse do not divulge the breakdown of their product so I do not use it. Having said that it is based on free amino acids, which most hydroslates are not, so it might be OK but not for me.
NemesisWitch NemesisWitch
Posts: 1,425
Post #23 17 Nov 2024 12:57
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In reply to Post #21
This 'involuntary feeding response' theory is pure fantasy. There is no such thing in nature. This was discussed on the long defunct Black Forum years ago and it turned out there was a very 'iffy' definition of the word involuntary....which effectively contradicted itself (and led to a bit of a bunfight, as most bait stuff often does!).
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