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Canitu caulking gun (24 posts / 2,678 views)
tomsher01 tomsher01
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Post #1 30 Dec 2023 09:47
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Electric Cordless Caulking Gun Glass Mastic Sealant Gun w Battery For Makita


So my bait rolling has stepped up a bit over last couple months ,where I've proved to myself I can produce a half decent bait for relatively cheap. Anyways I'm now working on the next steps to ramp up my kilo per hour production, I have a very decent hand caulking gun, I can just about manage a 12/15 egg mix, (circa 2kg) but to make it economical I wanna get up to the 5kg an hour mark. Is this gun good enough you think... Major blocker is the hand ache after 10eggs it takes me ages to squeeze the last few guns out....

Approx
10 mins set up
20 min make dough and rolling into sausages
20 min boiling
10 min tidy away

Gut feeling I need to accept that doing bigger batches is easier and less hassle so needed a battery caulking gun
BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #2 30 Dec 2023 12:04
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In reply to Post #1
Personally I'd go down the road of a small compressor and an air powered gun. I destroyed my battery gun after a couple of years. A decent mixer will speed up your rolling a lot.
frothey frothey
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Post #3 30 Dec 2023 12:13
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In reply to Post #2
I'm lucky to be able to “borrow” a compressor from work. Air caulking gun from alibaba was about £35 delivered and just needed to buy the green plunger off the Gardner spares site for a tenner iirc. Sped things up massively, only improvements if you wanted to do loads in ones hit would be if you could get hold of a 5kg container so as not to load so often, and one of the old Solar multi nozzles, tho i think 5mix do them.

Saying that, i tend to do 5kg dry at a time, and really doesnt take long.
Baitman Baitman
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Post #4 30 Dec 2023 18:13
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In reply to Post #1
The orange China gun is the one you want, it's a revalation

Ebay item number: 404634962547

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BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #5 31 Dec 2023 13:26
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That's the one I had but i eventually blew it up. Mine didn't like harder mixes. Was perfect for hookbaits and soft nut mixes. But one of mine is firm and it killed it.

I would suggest gluing the plastic retaining nut to stop it getting ripped off of the threads if you get one. That's what finished mine off.
Hudson Hudson
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Post #6 31 Dec 2023 19:41
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What nozzles does it take mate?
dickweed dickweed
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Post #7 31 Dec 2023 21:31
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I splashed out on the Dewalt gun a few years back.

Combined with a big table and big Kenwood mixer I can do 5 kg in an hour including washing up.

I not not tried the orange gun but I have heard good reports. Bloke in youtube does a review on this type.
Baitman Baitman
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Post #8 31 Dec 2023 22:17
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I have a Gardner cap on the front.
TCarper TCarper
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Post #9 1 Jan 2024 09:03
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Quote... I have a Gardner cap on the front.

Be careful with that mate. They explode. The ABS plastic is not strong enough for that gun. I've blown two up. They go with a nasty bang when they go. Yellow witches hats off eBay and the metal collar supplied.

Or you will find out yourself eventually I promise
TCarper TCarper
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Post #10 1 Jan 2024 09:10
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Quote... That's the one I had but i eventually blew it up. Mine didn't like harder mixes. Was perfect for hookbaits and soft nut mixes. But one of mine is firm and it killed it. I would suggest gluing the plastic retaining nut to stop it getting ripped off of the threads if you get one. That's what finished mine off.


I saw you say this in another thread mate. I am genuinely interested, as our original gun has been faultless now after three years and it's been so abused. A second one has been going for two years now. We are running a high percentage of solid cork through the guns, which is stiffer than any base mix. Was it the white plastic nut behind the plunger? The big one that connects to the drill body?

Can I ask, is it a fishmeal you were rolling? With fish oils? We do not add any oils whatsoever pre boiling, so our guns do not see lots of fish oil. I know from my previous branded caulking gun that I had for donkeys years, that ABS plastics do not like fish oil over a period of time, it deteriorates the collars too. It seems to break them down.
Baitman Baitman
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Post #11 1 Jan 2024 16:41
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I have a metal screw cap on the front, not sure if it's Gardner or off an old Cox air gun.
The Gardner insert fits inside.
I use the witches hats for larger mixes, and the small green Gardner inserts for 1-2 egg hook bait mixes.

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TCarper TCarper
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Post #12 1 Jan 2024 18:16
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Yes it's those that go. You will be left with the bottom flat part of that nozzle insert, like a large washer when it goes. The rest of it will literally blow out at 500mph

The Gardner or Cox plastic collars or inserts are not suitable to use with those guns. It's dangerous when it goes honestly. I've found out the hard way because I done exactly the same thing you have. I used a plastic collar too as well as that insert at first. Lewis sent me a load of replacement bits I asked for when he was still there. But it's not the fault of the plastic collars I was using, or nozzle insert you are using there. It's our fault! They are made for a manual hand gun, we are putting them onto a far more powerful battery operated drill lol. After I blew up two of those inserts you are using there, and also a plastic collar that blew the whole thread off at the start. We stopped using any plastic attachments apart from the yellow witches hats and the metal collars.

All good ever since.

That insert will blow up. First one of mine took nearly year. Replacement after 3 or 4 months. But they will go in my experience. Like yourself, I also preferred using that nozzle holder rather than a witches hat at first... But it's simply not possible long term.

dickweed dickweed
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Post #13 1 Jan 2024 18:26
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Screwfix do the witches hats. Quite easy to cut to size with a sharp knife.

BlankasorusRex BlankasorusRex
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Post #14 1 Jan 2024 18:59
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Hi. Happy new year.

You might be on to something there. I used the gun for pop ups and wafters without any issues. It wasn't until I started to use it to turn out a fishmeal mix that the problems happened probably a year later. My mix contains fish oils, fish hydro, sardine meal and CLO. So quite a bit of oily ingredients. I always put it down to the stiffer mix but you could be right and it was down to deterioration of the plastics as the problems took probably a year to occur. Now even a soft pop up mix will rip the tube off of the threads.
TCarper TCarper
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Post #15 2 Jan 2024 05:49
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In reply to Post #14
Happy new year.

Yes, I def think that it is the added fish oils doing that. It melts the cheap plastics over a longer period of time. My old branded gun was faultless for years. Including running loads fishmeal through it. The moment I started using a lot of fish oil in the mix though that was going through the gun, all the plastic attachments became useless within months. Not the locking nut like yours (I think my old branded one was actually metal). Plastic nozzles, and even the plastic collars for me. They started literally disintegrating over a period of time, it was noticeably the oil doing it, likely combined with the torque pressure the guns exert.

Someone more intelligent than me, told me that because all plastics are made from oil, certain types of cheap plastic do not like constant exposure to oil. It deteriorates them over a period of time, basically melting them and returning them to their original state. That adds up to my experiences, and what has happened to you. The photo below is our original unit. Everything except the metal tube on that is from the first one I purchased, including the battery. The tube is virtually brand new. We have six of the tubes in operation, on two guns.

It's no secret our GPB2 contains 33% soluble fishmeal. That gets run through the guns all of the time, and is fine. The problem is clearly if we add fish oils to the paste. That caused me lots of problems with my old gun.

Anyone else who purchased one of these orange guns. Don't put heavily fish oil saturated mixes through the gun long term. Add the oil afterwards before freezing. Fishmeal mixes are absolutely fine. Fishmeal with a lot of fish oil added to the mix, not good long term.


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