Falling in while wearing waders has been discussed many times so this should be enlightening
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Done it twice now toppled over when wearing waders. luckily when weathers been warm so ive dried out. Wouldnt want it to happen when its colder though. 
Just watched it.............Well that was an eye opener!! Seems theyre not as dangerous as people think.
In reply to Post #3
Once the waders are full, it will be really hard to drag yourself and the extra weight of the wader's back into the boat, if you are a long way from land and not a great swimmer.
Once the waders are full, it will be really hard to drag yourself and the extra weight of the wader's back into the boat, if you are a long way from land and not a great swimmer.
In reply to Post #3
Don't get too excited. I nearly drowned once on a 1000 acre lake in the middle of the night cause I could hardly lift myself back in a 20HP boat which was moving. Its an easy test to do in a small swimming pool, but there's a lot more variables to take into account. Panic, (water) temperature, wind and waves, wader model and fit, fatigue after a few nights fishing, speed of moving boat, buoyancy of life jacket, amount of clothes, amount of stuff lying in the boat that does not allow you to climb back in easily, and so on.
Don't get too excited. I nearly drowned once on a 1000 acre lake in the middle of the night cause I could hardly lift myself back in a 20HP boat which was moving. Its an easy test to do in a small swimming pool, but there's a lot more variables to take into account. Panic, (water) temperature, wind and waves, wader model and fit, fatigue after a few nights fishing, speed of moving boat, buoyancy of life jacket, amount of clothes, amount of stuff lying in the boat that does not allow you to climb back in easily, and so on.
In reply to Post #1
I've have preferred to see his big mate Jim do the test...
I've have preferred to see his big mate Jim do the test...
In reply to Post #5
If somebody went out on 1000 acres in the middle of the night on a choppy freezing cold lake having not eaten or rested to the point of exhaustion, in safety equipment they hadn't tested to their satisfaction, unsuitable clothing for being on the water and a boat full of crap..... the waders won't be what kills them.
I get all the arguments for and against, but in reality it's the situations you put yourself in to begin with that determine your safety on the water, that's what this video and your post proves.
I'm the other end of the scale. Would freeze to death in shorts and T-shirt with Nike bubbles and a small zip lock bag as buoyancy aids
If somebody went out on 1000 acres in the middle of the night on a choppy freezing cold lake having not eaten or rested to the point of exhaustion, in safety equipment they hadn't tested to their satisfaction, unsuitable clothing for being on the water and a boat full of crap..... the waders won't be what kills them.
I get all the arguments for and against, but in reality it's the situations you put yourself in to begin with that determine your safety on the water, that's what this video and your post proves.
I'm the other end of the scale. Would freeze to death in shorts and T-shirt with Nike bubbles and a small zip lock bag as buoyancy aids
In reply to Post #1
Am I missing something here. Why would you want to wear waders while in a boat?
Am I missing something here. Why would you want to wear waders while in a boat?
In reply to Post #6
With waders full of cement
With waders full of cement
In reply to Post #8
Because in some situations they need to be worn to launch or park the boat. Mucking around trying to take them off and swap to shoes once afloat is arguably more dangerous, as it's likely to unbalance things.
Because in some situations they need to be worn to launch or park the boat. Mucking around trying to take them off and swap to shoes once afloat is arguably more dangerous, as it's likely to unbalance things.
In reply to Post #7
Sure, all of these things combined wouldn't be smart. But even one of these things can complicate things. Panic in pitch dark while far removed from the bank already changes everything. My post doesn't prove anything cause you took some things I said Elliot could/should have taken into account like the grand sum of it is what happened to me.
Everyone's free to listen to Elliot's advice. Be sure to watch his recent video's first, in which he takes his first babysteps in boat fishing, making a complete mess of everything he touches. In all honesty he would be the last person I'd take advice from as far as safety's concerned.
Sure, all of these things combined wouldn't be smart. But even one of these things can complicate things. Panic in pitch dark while far removed from the bank already changes everything. My post doesn't prove anything cause you took some things I said Elliot could/should have taken into account like the grand sum of it is what happened to me.
Everyone's free to listen to Elliot's advice. Be sure to watch his recent video's first, in which he takes his first babysteps in boat fishing, making a complete mess of everything he touches. In all honesty he would be the last person I'd take advice from as far as safety's concerned.
In reply to Post #5
Which was precisely what he said - loads of other variables to consider that don't apply in a pool with people standing at the side.
Which was precisely what he said - loads of other variables to consider that don't apply in a pool with people standing at the side.
In reply to Post #11
Im with what you say. When I was a kid I was fishing a match on the Trent at Fiskerton and my mate was one down from me running a stick float down the near side shelf. He walked out a bit to far and went down the shelf and flooded his waders, next thing I hear is him shouting me, chucked the gear down, ran down and managed to get him out, as you said, blind panic is an understatement! shocked us both up at the time! Very dangerous items waders, especially in silt too, I've had a few near misses over the years and it is totally not something to be proud about. I have used my landing net handle as a prodding stick for a long time but this does not compensate for the weight of a man. Safety first every time and no excuses for me.
Anybody using a boat should have a life jacket standard, end of story. I think we can all relate to a few sad and unnecessary loses around us that could have been prevented
I can understand where the lad in the video is coming from and I have heard that you can still stay buoyant but only a fool would risk that. Like mentioned, try getting back in a boat ffs!
Im with what you say. When I was a kid I was fishing a match on the Trent at Fiskerton and my mate was one down from me running a stick float down the near side shelf. He walked out a bit to far and went down the shelf and flooded his waders, next thing I hear is him shouting me, chucked the gear down, ran down and managed to get him out, as you said, blind panic is an understatement! shocked us both up at the time! Very dangerous items waders, especially in silt too, I've had a few near misses over the years and it is totally not something to be proud about. I have used my landing net handle as a prodding stick for a long time but this does not compensate for the weight of a man. Safety first every time and no excuses for me.
Anybody using a boat should have a life jacket standard, end of story. I think we can all relate to a few sad and unnecessary loses around us that could have been prevented
I can understand where the lad in the video is coming from and I have heard that you can still stay buoyant but only a fool would risk that. Like mentioned, try getting back in a boat ffs!
In reply to Post #13
It al comes down to common sense. Wear a lifejacket, and if its possible go in the boat with your mate. When you think its not responsible anymore to go on the water, just reel in and dont go. Fishing is still a hobby and nothing risking your life for. Been on big lakes, and believe me it can be more dangerous than you think.
It al comes down to common sense. Wear a lifejacket, and if its possible go in the boat with your mate. When you think its not responsible anymore to go on the water, just reel in and dont go. Fishing is still a hobby and nothing risking your life for. Been on big lakes, and believe me it can be more dangerous than you think.
In reply to Post #11
I wasn't criticising you mate. I'm saying that, as somebody who obviously has experience with boats, you have given a list of less than ideal circumstances that need consideration before taking to the water just off the top of your head. The video proves that waders are simply another consideration rather than a death sentence.
I wouldn't do it, because I don't like waders at the best of times, but if somebody is experienced in a boat and confident in open water then good luck to them.
Life jacket or not, if you aren't a strong swimmer you shouldn't be in a boat full stop
I wasn't criticising you mate. I'm saying that, as somebody who obviously has experience with boats, you have given a list of less than ideal circumstances that need consideration before taking to the water just off the top of your head. The video proves that waders are simply another consideration rather than a death sentence.
I wouldn't do it, because I don't like waders at the best of times, but if somebody is experienced in a boat and confident in open water then good luck to them.
Life jacket or not, if you aren't a strong swimmer you shouldn't be in a boat full stop