After a cheap boilie for heavy prebaiting a new water would use particle but to many bream. Any ideas on a boilie 4-5 per kg or cheaper?
In reply to Post #1
In reply to Post #1
Tbh at the price you'll be better of either buying over runs from someone like premier baits or making your own at a sensible price. Most of what you'll be buying imo will be cheap rubbish at that price
Tbh at the price you'll be better of either buying over runs from someone like premier baits or making your own at a sensible price. Most of what you'll be buying imo will be cheap rubbish at that price
In reply to Post #3
or buy a few sacks of coppens
or buy a few sacks of coppens
In reply to Post #1
Mirage carp baits do basic mixes for that sort of price either a red fishmeal, yellow birdseed or a yeasty bait, they sell it on ebay post free i think
Mirage carp baits do basic mixes for that sort of price either a red fishmeal, yellow birdseed or a yeasty bait, they sell it on ebay post free i think
In reply to Post #5
Mirage do a box of random overruns - £35 for 10kg. Marcus roils an awful lot of bait for a lot of people!
Mirage do a box of random overruns - £35 for 10kg. Marcus roils an awful lot of bait for a lot of people!
Have a word with Wrasbury baits.
In reply to Post #7
Just try messaging some companies mate. Most of them will do you off cuts on the cheap. I know MAD baits do run offs at a decent price
Brent
Just try messaging some companies mate. Most of them will do you off cuts on the cheap. I know MAD baits do run offs at a decent price
Brent
In reply to Post #1
If you are just using them for pre baiting then you could knock out your own mix on cheap tables and not be too worried about perfect roundness. So you wouldn't need investment in machines etc. For that price you could actually bait up with a decent home made bait.
If you are just using them for pre baiting then you could knock out your own mix on cheap tables and not be too worried about perfect roundness. So you wouldn't need investment in machines etc. For that price you could actually bait up with a decent home made bait.
In reply to Post #1
Sure the guy at Sussex bait development does 5k £25
Sure the guy at Sussex bait development does 5k £25
In reply to Post #9
£3.50/kg rolled, I know I could put a bait together for that, but don't know if I could be arsed to roll and cook it!
£3.50/kg rolled, I know I could put a bait together for that, but don't know if I could be arsed to roll and cook it!
In reply to Post #9
Agreed, rather than looking for a very cheap bait, wouldn't even bother rolling, just boil the sausages and cut up when needed.
Agreed, rather than looking for a very cheap bait, wouldn't even bother rolling, just boil the sausages and cut up when needed.
In reply to Post #1
Find a guy that can roll you some bait.
A simple fishmeal-birdfood mix should cost you more than £4/kilo bait.
1kg mix is good for 1.3kg bait.
Find a guy that can roll you some bait.
A simple fishmeal-birdfood mix should cost you more than £4/kilo bait.
1kg mix is good for 1.3kg bait.
In reply to Post #13
So its mostly the smaller firms that can offer bespoke mixes now, lets say on the larger end of that with aome automation a firm can produce 150kg a day.
say its a nine hour work day
call utilities for the day 50 quid
call rent and rate on a small unit 1500 a month or 50 a day
That 150 kg needs to include a production cost of £0.67 pence per kilo prior to profit.
I'll price this in the bracket in which people of that size buy, usually they dont have sotrage so tonnes of ingredient isn't possible. trade sack prices then. - hypothetical very very cheap mix - kilo price for the bait...
35% sardine & Anchovy (trade sack price £45-£53 / 25kg) £0.70
20% CLO (trade sack price £39 / 20kg) £0.39
10% Soy Meal ( trade sack price £25 / 25kg) £0.10
10% Maize Flour ( trade sack price £20 / 25kg) £0.08
15% Semolina ( trade sack price £24 / 25kg ) £0.15
10% Bread Crumb ( trade sack price £15 / 20kg ) £0.08
- £1.50 per kilo for the base
eggs, if using extremely cheap mixed size cage seconds, a quid a tray of 30, 8 on average for a kilo of finished bait so 27p
about 700g basemix in a kilo of bait so £1.05 basemix
10 pence for a poly bag per 2.5kg of boilies is 4pence per kilo
Shipping cost of ingredient to supplier would be around 50 quid a pallet but ill not include that.
£1.05
£0.27
£0.67
£0.04
£2.03 prior to adding a wage cost ( seperate to business profit unless you mean a guy in aa shed doing it in which case the ingredient prices increase anyhow )
lets say someone needs to earn £150 a day, that is a quid a kilo wage cost bring the bait to £3.03 per kilo prior to shipping which for a smaller firm is basically around a quid per kilo unless sending 60+ packages a week to get on a better tariff.
I'm not saying £4 / a kilo for bait isn't possible but you really do not have room for movement especially as cheaper filler ingredients are going to soar towards the end of the year as well.
I'm not saying these costs apply to everyone either, I've also not factored in the basemix blending etc
for someone in a shed I reckon that bait cost easily passes 4 quid before selling it to you personally and thats as basic abd fish / bird mixes get
So its mostly the smaller firms that can offer bespoke mixes now, lets say on the larger end of that with aome automation a firm can produce 150kg a day.
say its a nine hour work day
call utilities for the day 50 quid
call rent and rate on a small unit 1500 a month or 50 a day
That 150 kg needs to include a production cost of £0.67 pence per kilo prior to profit.
I'll price this in the bracket in which people of that size buy, usually they dont have sotrage so tonnes of ingredient isn't possible. trade sack prices then. - hypothetical very very cheap mix - kilo price for the bait...
35% sardine & Anchovy (trade sack price £45-£53 / 25kg) £0.70
20% CLO (trade sack price £39 / 20kg) £0.39
10% Soy Meal ( trade sack price £25 / 25kg) £0.10
10% Maize Flour ( trade sack price £20 / 25kg) £0.08
15% Semolina ( trade sack price £24 / 25kg ) £0.15
10% Bread Crumb ( trade sack price £15 / 20kg ) £0.08
- £1.50 per kilo for the base
eggs, if using extremely cheap mixed size cage seconds, a quid a tray of 30, 8 on average for a kilo of finished bait so 27p
about 700g basemix in a kilo of bait so £1.05 basemix
10 pence for a poly bag per 2.5kg of boilies is 4pence per kilo
Shipping cost of ingredient to supplier would be around 50 quid a pallet but ill not include that.
£1.05
£0.27
£0.67
£0.04
£2.03 prior to adding a wage cost ( seperate to business profit unless you mean a guy in aa shed doing it in which case the ingredient prices increase anyhow )
lets say someone needs to earn £150 a day, that is a quid a kilo wage cost bring the bait to £3.03 per kilo prior to shipping which for a smaller firm is basically around a quid per kilo unless sending 60+ packages a week to get on a better tariff.
I'm not saying £4 / a kilo for bait isn't possible but you really do not have room for movement especially as cheaper filler ingredients are going to soar towards the end of the year as well.
I'm not saying these costs apply to everyone either, I've also not factored in the basemix blending etc
for someone in a shed I reckon that bait cost easily passes 4 quid before selling it to you personally and thats as basic abd fish / bird mixes get
In reply to Post #14
I was told that all major baits on the market don't cost more than £2.50/kg for the ingredients. Production costs and distribution obviously push that up. If you want good bait find a good source local and collect it. That's the best you can do.
I was told that all major baits on the market don't cost more than £2.50/kg for the ingredients. Production costs and distribution obviously push that up. If you want good bait find a good source local and collect it. That's the best you can do.