Hi all. Looking to treat myself to a new set of reels and looking at the lightest big pits from Shimano and Daiwa. None of my local stores ever seem to have them in stock, so will be ordering online without handling first. The style of the Daiwas appeals but any practical experience you can offer on them or the advantages of either brand would be ace!
Push the boat out:
Shimano Aero MGS (495g - c£600 whenever they become available)
Daiwa Basia 17 SLD (485g - £440)
A bit more sensible:
Shimano ci4+ XTC 14000 (540g - £235)
Daiwa Emblem 45 SCW QD-OT (645g - £180) cheapest/heaviest/prettiest
Am replacing some cheap Shimano bait runners that have done me well over the years but are a bit knackered and limiting now. Most of my fishing is mobile day sessions without a barrow, often via public transport, so weight matters here and will be paired with 9ft scopes. Current reels are about 600g. Also will be using them for 3-4 overnight sessions a year on 12ft rods. Whether doing day or night sessions pretty long chucks are often needed at the waters I fish. Current reels are about 600g.
Thanks
Push the boat out:
Shimano Aero MGS (495g - c£600 whenever they become available)
Daiwa Basia 17 SLD (485g - £440)
A bit more sensible:
Shimano ci4+ XTC 14000 (540g - £235)
Daiwa Emblem 45 SCW QD-OT (645g - £180) cheapest/heaviest/prettiest
Am replacing some cheap Shimano bait runners that have done me well over the years but are a bit knackered and limiting now. Most of my fishing is mobile day sessions without a barrow, often via public transport, so weight matters here and will be paired with 9ft scopes. Current reels are about 600g. Also will be using them for 3-4 overnight sessions a year on 12ft rods. Whether doing day or night sessions pretty long chucks are often needed at the waters I fish. Current reels are about 600g.
Thanks
In reply to Post #1
All of those are far too big for scopes
All of those are far too big for scopes
In reply to Post #1
For that kind of investment I wouldn't chose any of them . . .
I would however look at the Daiwa 20 Whisker 25QD . . .should fit the bill (and your rod choices and fishing) nicely . . 450g and loads of line capacity / casting ability
Also look at the heavier Castizm BR25A (515g) if you like a baitrunner or the cheaper Emblem BR25A which is actually 5g lighter and over half the price . . .I use these for barbel fishing and they are excellent . . .
For that kind of investment I wouldn't chose any of them . . .
I would however look at the Daiwa 20 Whisker 25QD . . .should fit the bill (and your rod choices and fishing) nicely . . 450g and loads of line capacity / casting ability
Also look at the heavier Castizm BR25A (515g) if you like a baitrunner or the cheaper Emblem BR25A which is actually 5g lighter and over half the price . . .I use these for barbel fishing and they are excellent . . .
In reply to Post #3
Agreed - that would be my choice of currently available (new) reels (based on having Castizms - i much prefer them to any of the larger reels on my 3.25tc 12ft rods)
Agreed - that would be my choice of currently available (new) reels (based on having Castizms - i much prefer them to any of the larger reels on my 3.25tc 12ft rods)
In reply to Post #2
Why? Bar the Emblem they're all significantly lighter than my current reels.
Why? Bar the Emblem they're all significantly lighter than my current reels.
In reply to Post #1
You really dont need reels that big on 9ft rods
You really dont need reels that big on 9ft rods
For scopes shimano ci4 5500 xtc would be a good choice . I've 3 sets of them 2 on my 10ft rods and a set on my 3lb 12 ft and they all do what I need them to . Super smooth, light weight and a clutch that was made for playing fish on. And as a bonus look pretty smart in black
In reply to Post #5
Weight is of little relevance with reels, size and build quality are far more important things to consider imo. You won't get the best out of either the rod of the reel with that combination. A smaller reel is way better suited to scopes , something the size of an Ss2600 would be the best way to go.
Weight is of little relevance with reels, size and build quality are far more important things to consider imo. You won't get the best out of either the rod of the reel with that combination. A smaller reel is way better suited to scopes , something the size of an Ss2600 would be the best way to go.
In reply to Post #8
Great reel those 2600's, a bit limited though seeing as O.P said he's got big distances to fish.
I'd roll with a 5500 size reel as a 5500 is a good in-between size and would be good on a 9ft and also 12ft rod like O.P mentions.
Great reel those 2600's, a bit limited though seeing as O.P said he's got big distances to fish.
I'd roll with a 5500 size reel as a 5500 is a good in-between size and would be good on a 9ft and also 12ft rod like O.P mentions.
In reply to Post #1
Just get yourself some Okuma Inc 6000's, perfect for shorter rods, 460g and save yourself a load of money. - they only cost £50 each You'll be able to afford to go by taxi with the saving.
Just get yourself some Okuma Inc 6000's, perfect for shorter rods, 460g and save yourself a load of money. - they only cost £50 each You'll be able to afford to go by taxi with the saving.
In reply to Post #9
How'd the 5500 get on with casting 100+yards? Would the 14000 not provide a little bit of extra help due to the larger spool?
How'd the 5500 get on with casting 100+yards? Would the 14000 not provide a little bit of extra help due to the larger spool?
In reply to Post #11
Well, if this is any metric to go by, Terry Edmonds was I believe 10 or 15 yards shorter than his identically loaded 14000 reel. Have a search on YouTube and you'll catch his interesting experiment 👍
Well, if this is any metric to go by, Terry Edmonds was I believe 10 or 15 yards shorter than his identically loaded 14000 reel. Have a search on YouTube and you'll catch his interesting experiment 👍
In reply to Post #1
I dont think that you understand how rods and reels balance. It's about far more than just weight. Plus if you are wanting to fish at any considerable distance, why use 9ft rods? They're handy for moving about but will hinder you a lot more than what reel you use (within reason)
Drop Terry Edmunds a message on fb if you want to understand it properly 👍
I dont think that you understand how rods and reels balance. It's about far more than just weight. Plus if you are wanting to fish at any considerable distance, why use 9ft rods? They're handy for moving about but will hinder you a lot more than what reel you use (within reason)
Drop Terry Edmunds a message on fb if you want to understand it properly 👍
In reply to Post #11
Try and borrow a couple of different sized reels and get yourself to either an empty lake or safe field and have a few hours casting various weights with the different reels, weights, rods. I think you'll be amazed at how little difference there is between them.
I did this some years ago.
3.5 Oz lead with 15lb line straight through.
Longest casts were
Technium XT10000 145 yards
Shimano 10000xte 137 yards
Got to say that I was surprised.
I'd suggest that something like a Ci4 5500 would suit you perfectly. Light, cast well and good line management with the size of the spool.
Try and borrow a couple of different sized reels and get yourself to either an empty lake or safe field and have a few hours casting various weights with the different reels, weights, rods. I think you'll be amazed at how little difference there is between them.
I did this some years ago.
3.5 Oz lead with 15lb line straight through.
Longest casts were
Technium XT10000 145 yards
Shimano 10000xte 137 yards
Got to say that I was surprised.
I'd suggest that something like a Ci4 5500 would suit you perfectly. Light, cast well and good line management with the size of the spool.
In reply to Post #11
Why would you want to be casting over 100 yards with 9 foot rods. A basia and mag is way to big to go on a 9 foot rod, it would also look stupid. As mentioned get a 5500 size or an original castizm. There was only 5 yards difference between a castizm and black mag when i tried them side by side on identical rods. I much prefer a smaller sized reel over the huge techs or basias..
Why would you want to be casting over 100 yards with 9 foot rods. A basia and mag is way to big to go on a 9 foot rod, it would also look stupid. As mentioned get a 5500 size or an original castizm. There was only 5 yards difference between a castizm and black mag when i tried them side by side on identical rods. I much prefer a smaller sized reel over the huge techs or basias..