Some fisheries are imposing a rule of 3oz maximum on their lakes, even though long range casting may be required. It doesn't make sense to me.
Or, am I missing something?
Or, am I missing something?
In reply to Post #1
Heavier the lead the higher the chance of cracking off maybe. If they impose a minimum line diameter ect the chances are reduced further but this assumes anglers can tie knots properly.
Heavier the lead the higher the chance of cracking off maybe. If they impose a minimum line diameter ect the chances are reduced further but this assumes anglers can tie knots properly.
In reply to Post #1
Try my club lakes mate max 1oz but a 1oz unloaded method feeder is fine lol some fisheries and clubs just put rules in for the sake of it
Try my club lakes mate max 1oz but a 1oz unloaded method feeder is fine lol some fisheries and clubs just put rules in for the sake of it
In reply to Post #1
Some try and make a safe area for the fish
some don't like there fish getting caught
and theres so many doughnuts about 2
Some try and make a safe area for the fish
some don't like there fish getting caught
and theres so many doughnuts about 2
In reply to Post #2
“Heavy casting weight causes crack offs” Yeah, I've heard that theory before, but I don't buy it, tbh.
The main reason for crack offs is line twist. But, that's easily remedied.
But, some of these rules make no sense at all. Look at Grenville as an example: 72 acres, depths up to 38 feet, so loads of undertow, and yet, the maximum weight allowed is 3oz. Just doesn't make sense.
“Heavy casting weight causes crack offs” Yeah, I've heard that theory before, but I don't buy it, tbh.
The main reason for crack offs is line twist. But, that's easily remedied.
But, some of these rules make no sense at all. Look at Grenville as an example: 72 acres, depths up to 38 feet, so loads of undertow, and yet, the maximum weight allowed is 3oz. Just doesn't make sense.
In reply to Post #3
1oz??? 😂 bonkers
1oz??? 😂 bonkers
In reply to Post #5
Doesnt he feed them right in the center of the lake? Probably just doesnt want them getting caught.
Im sure more than one person has a 4oz lead mould with a 3 stamped in it.
Doesnt he feed them right in the center of the lake? Probably just doesnt want them getting caught.
Im sure more than one person has a 4oz lead mould with a 3 stamped in it.
In reply to Post #7
He does, yeah. Pellets are banned, but he feeds the fish with pellets and not only that, in the middle of the lake out of casting range.
The members are absolute mugs for fishing at Grenville imho
He does, yeah. Pellets are banned, but he feeds the fish with pellets and not only that, in the middle of the lake out of casting range.
The members are absolute mugs for fishing at Grenville imho
In reply to Post #5
So you would happily use a casting rod with 8lb line straight through and 4oz lead? What I was saying the rod, line and weight need to be appropriate for the situation.
So you would happily use a casting rod with 8lb line straight through and 4oz lead? What I was saying the rod, line and weight need to be appropriate for the situation.
In reply to Post #9
No, I didn't say that at all. It seems you're deliberately twisting my words, there, fella.
It's pretty obvious that carp fishery managers know anglers are using monofilament line that's a minimum of 0.35mm. That they're using big pit reels and powerful rods on large deep lakes, which cause a lot of undertow and may require long range casting. And yet, some of them impose a maximum casting weight of 3oz on carp fishing gear
No, I didn't say that at all. It seems you're deliberately twisting my words, there, fella.
It's pretty obvious that carp fishery managers know anglers are using monofilament line that's a minimum of 0.35mm. That they're using big pit reels and powerful rods on large deep lakes, which cause a lot of undertow and may require long range casting. And yet, some of them impose a maximum casting weight of 3oz on carp fishing gear
In reply to Post #10
Not twisting your words, you said said heavy casting weights were not causing crackoffs you don't buy it. There are are many factors causing crack off but weight to line bs is definitely a factor, hence the use of shock leaders.
Not twisting your words, you said said heavy casting weights were not causing crackoffs you don't buy it. There are are many factors causing crack off but weight to line bs is definitely a factor, hence the use of shock leaders.
In reply to Post #11
Yeah, on a typical carp set up. Who's gonna be dumb enough to use a 4oz lead on 8lb line??? So, yeah, you are twisting my words for the sake of arguing.
A 4oz lead isn't gonna cause a crack off on line the thickness of 0.37mm, or even 0.35mm. If it's gonna crack off it'll end be because of line twist.
Yeah, on a typical carp set up. Who's gonna be dumb enough to use a 4oz lead on 8lb line??? So, yeah, you are twisting my words for the sake of arguing.
A 4oz lead isn't gonna cause a crack off on line the thickness of 0.37mm, or even 0.35mm. If it's gonna crack off it'll end be because of line twist.
In reply to Post #12
Think we will have to agree to disagree on that, I've been casting level line on various distance rods over the last two years mainly with. 37 syncro xt and found with the infinity slr 3.5oz OK but step up to 4oz and could crack off fairly easily. Hence why I was saying about balancing rod, line and weight.
Think we will have to agree to disagree on that, I've been casting level line on various distance rods over the last two years mainly with. 37 syncro xt and found with the infinity slr 3.5oz OK but step up to 4oz and could crack off fairly easily. Hence why I was saying about balancing rod, line and weight.
In reply to Post #13
Well, we've gone completely away from what I asked at the start of this thread. However, it is important to use balanced tackle.
I naturally assumed, that as this is a carp forum and we are talking about large lakes, like Grenville, that are banning the use of leads above 3oz and yet, require long range casting with a minimum of 0.35mm monofilament. But, I didn't think I needed to explain that.
What is it that long range casters advise? Use the thinnest line you can get away with, like 0.31, or 0.33, and then use a shock leader.
But, a lot of fisheries have banned shock leaders, so you have to level line cast with an absolute minimum of 0.35mm.
You've acknowledged that you're using 3.5oz leads, and just that additional half an ounce in weight can make a massive difference to gaining those extra few yards.
But, if you are cracking off with a 4oz lead on 0.37mm, then, there's something wrong with the line. Either it's damaged, or it's line twist. I know that syncro xt 0.37mm has a break strain of around 22lb. You're not gonna crack that off with a 4oz lead.
Well, we've gone completely away from what I asked at the start of this thread. However, it is important to use balanced tackle.
I naturally assumed, that as this is a carp forum and we are talking about large lakes, like Grenville, that are banning the use of leads above 3oz and yet, require long range casting with a minimum of 0.35mm monofilament. But, I didn't think I needed to explain that.
What is it that long range casters advise? Use the thinnest line you can get away with, like 0.31, or 0.33, and then use a shock leader.
But, a lot of fisheries have banned shock leaders, so you have to level line cast with an absolute minimum of 0.35mm.
You've acknowledged that you're using 3.5oz leads, and just that additional half an ounce in weight can make a massive difference to gaining those extra few yards.
But, if you are cracking off with a 4oz lead on 0.37mm, then, there's something wrong with the line. Either it's damaged, or it's line twist. I know that syncro xt 0.37mm has a break strain of around 22lb. You're not gonna crack that off with a 4oz lead.
In reply to Post #14
Yes you can ask Terry Edmunds, he can easily crack off .35 and .37 line with a 4 oz lead
I watched him do it and can guarantee there was no line twist or other damage
In fact he cracked off .35 with a 3.25 oz lead and he didnt give it the beans
I then cast 154 yards 3 times with the exact same rod reel and line
Yes you can ask Terry Edmunds, he can easily crack off .35 and .37 line with a 4 oz lead
I watched him do it and can guarantee there was no line twist or other damage
In fact he cracked off .35 with a 3.25 oz lead and he didnt give it the beans
I then cast 154 yards 3 times with the exact same rod reel and line