Hi, I'm looking at upgrading my alarms to a set of delkim's and was just after some wisdom from the forum .
Currently I have some cheap and cheerful Fox Micron MX+ alarms but I am starting to question whether delkim's would put more fish on the bank. For example on my last trip I was fishing semi slack helicopter rigs and i had single beeps on a few different occasions. At the time I didn't hit them and assumed this to be nuisance fish hitting the line but now i'm wondering if some of these are actually where I've been getting done and not realising.
From what I've seen of vidoes online it looks like a delkim would give more than a single beep due to the vibration. So I would get more feedback on the alarms, but would the delkim ralso help distinguish between a finicky take or a false beep? or would it all still sound the same?
I don't quite get is how this would work so you could get more sensitivity than a roller so you can pick up finicky takes where the fish doesn't take line, but not then also get plagued by a huge amount of false beeps at the same time from every other vibration
thanks
Currently I have some cheap and cheerful Fox Micron MX+ alarms but I am starting to question whether delkim's would put more fish on the bank. For example on my last trip I was fishing semi slack helicopter rigs and i had single beeps on a few different occasions. At the time I didn't hit them and assumed this to be nuisance fish hitting the line but now i'm wondering if some of these are actually where I've been getting done and not realising.
From what I've seen of vidoes online it looks like a delkim would give more than a single beep due to the vibration. So I would get more feedback on the alarms, but would the delkim ralso help distinguish between a finicky take or a false beep? or would it all still sound the same?
I don't quite get is how this would work so you could get more sensitivity than a roller so you can pick up finicky takes where the fish doesn't take line, but not then also get plagued by a huge amount of false beeps at the same time from every other vibration
thanks
In reply to Post #1
When you learn how to use them properly (unlike many who blame the alarms for 'wind bleeps "etc) then there really is no better alarm. They will take a bit of getting used to but we'll worth it
When you learn how to use them properly (unlike many who blame the alarms for 'wind bleeps "etc) then there really is no better alarm. They will take a bit of getting used to but we'll worth it
In reply to Post #1
Without getting into a debate which alarm is best I can only speak from my experience.
I used Delks for well over 20 years and never did master the art of reducing the false bleeps, I just put up with them and got used to determining what was a fish and what wasn't.
I changed recently to a roller type of alarm and can honestly say I get less false bleeps and don't believe I had more success using Delks than the roller type .
I don't believe buying Delks will improve your catch rate at all, to answer your last question the Delks can be adjusted to be extremely sensitive but they can't distinguish between a roach touching the line or a wary old Carp mouthing the bait . It's my experience that if you hit every single bleep from your Delks you'd never have a rod in the water .
I should add I've never used the new model of Delks so they may be different !
It would appear from the theme of your post that you are trying to avoid getting done ,and feel upgrading your alarms will prevent that.
Well I do a lot of stalking and have watched hundreds of carp take a bait in very clear water. When they take a bait one of two things happen they either take the bait get hooked and swim out of the area giving you a positive indication, or they spit the bait back out giving either a single bleep but more often than not no indication at all.
Even if you hit that single bleep your too late, they spit the bait so fast it's often difficult to see.
The last scenario is where the carp takes the bait, is hooked but doesn't swim off, this is a very rare scenario from my observations , but it does happen once in a blue moon. However it happens so rarely it's not worth worrying about.
If you truly think you are being done on a regular basis I'd look at your rigs not the alarms, a simple blow back rig using a small piece of silicone on the shank of the hook will tell you if that bait has been blown out or not, if it's been blown out the silicone will be rammed back down near the eye every time, if it's still where you placed it opposite the bard then chances are you haven't been done at all.
Without getting into a debate which alarm is best I can only speak from my experience.
I used Delks for well over 20 years and never did master the art of reducing the false bleeps, I just put up with them and got used to determining what was a fish and what wasn't.
I changed recently to a roller type of alarm and can honestly say I get less false bleeps and don't believe I had more success using Delks than the roller type .
I don't believe buying Delks will improve your catch rate at all, to answer your last question the Delks can be adjusted to be extremely sensitive but they can't distinguish between a roach touching the line or a wary old Carp mouthing the bait . It's my experience that if you hit every single bleep from your Delks you'd never have a rod in the water .
I should add I've never used the new model of Delks so they may be different !
It would appear from the theme of your post that you are trying to avoid getting done ,and feel upgrading your alarms will prevent that.
Well I do a lot of stalking and have watched hundreds of carp take a bait in very clear water. When they take a bait one of two things happen they either take the bait get hooked and swim out of the area giving you a positive indication, or they spit the bait back out giving either a single bleep but more often than not no indication at all.
Even if you hit that single bleep your too late, they spit the bait so fast it's often difficult to see.
The last scenario is where the carp takes the bait, is hooked but doesn't swim off, this is a very rare scenario from my observations , but it does happen once in a blue moon. However it happens so rarely it's not worth worrying about.
If you truly think you are being done on a regular basis I'd look at your rigs not the alarms, a simple blow back rig using a small piece of silicone on the shank of the hook will tell you if that bait has been blown out or not, if it's been blown out the silicone will be rammed back down near the eye every time, if it's still where you placed it opposite the bard then chances are you haven't been done at all.
In reply to Post #3
It's my experience that if you hit every single bleep from your Delks you'd never have a rod in the water
It's my experience that if you hit every single bleep from your Delks you'd never have a rod in the water
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Which I don't really understand. I'm on the tidal Trent now using TXI-D's, and they have far far more to cope with than fishing a lake. Tides, rising and falling water levels, varying flows, stuff getting caught on the line, wind (as the tips are in the air due to the flow). Yet I hardly get any false bleeps, but they're still sensitive enough to tell me when there's a Bream or Roach rattling on the end which isn't actually taking any line (tight line straight through to the lead).
They may not catch me any more Barbel directly, as tbh you don't even need an alarm with Barbel as the reel smoking as they rip line off is enough
But they do help prevent nuisance fish getting hung up all night without me knowing. Advantages on a lake though? They're capable of telling you more I suppose, but how many people hit single bleeps anyway unless you're watching the line at the tip and can see something happening? They're just nice to have.
Which I don't really understand. I'm on the tidal Trent now using TXI-D's, and they have far far more to cope with than fishing a lake. Tides, rising and falling water levels, varying flows, stuff getting caught on the line, wind (as the tips are in the air due to the flow). Yet I hardly get any false bleeps, but they're still sensitive enough to tell me when there's a Bream or Roach rattling on the end which isn't actually taking any line (tight line straight through to the lead).
They may not catch me any more Barbel directly, as tbh you don't even need an alarm with Barbel as the reel smoking as they rip line off is enough
But they do help prevent nuisance fish getting hung up all night without me knowing. Advantages on a lake though? They're capable of telling you more I suppose, but how many people hit single bleeps anyway unless you're watching the line at the tip and can see something happening? They're just nice to have.
In reply to Post #3
That is a shame, always happy with Delkim the indicator system such as bobbins was the only failing imo, tended to use quiver locks so Delks where superb.
That is a shame, always happy with Delkim the indicator system such as bobbins was the only failing imo, tended to use quiver locks so Delks where superb.
In reply to Post #5
You obviously know how to use them properly mate, unlike many on here.....
You obviously know how to use them properly mate, unlike many on here.....
Are you using the duo carbs with the delkims? There brilliant
In reply to Post #5
I have owned and used most alarms ever made
starting off with the Heron bite alarms that good old Richard Walker designed when they were released back in the day and IMHO the Delkin alarms are the best alarms on the planet bar none I know some people have said they have had problems with water but NOT ME EVER !
I now fish the Trent mostly and dont use the Delkims when using a river pod as the barbel takes are normally so ferocious that both the alarms go off and that annoys me of course using single sticks they are fine but I have just pointed out my one and only problem with them they are the most versatile adjustable alarms going
I have owned and used most alarms ever made
starting off with the Heron bite alarms that good old Richard Walker designed when they were released back in the day and IMHO the Delkin alarms are the best alarms on the planet bar none I know some people have said they have had problems with water but NOT ME EVER !
I now fish the Trent mostly and dont use the Delkims when using a river pod as the barbel takes are normally so ferocious that both the alarms go off and that annoys me of course using single sticks they are fine but I have just pointed out my one and only problem with them they are the most versatile adjustable alarms going
In reply to Post #9
Apart from the rubbish receiver, I'm not getting into a slang match but I had 2 delkim TXI+ fail 3 days into a French trip due to water egress, the alarms were only 11 months old.
Too be fair to Delkim they were spot on and replaced them straight away I just lost all faith and sold them, if Delkim would have sorted the water ingress and receiver problems out I would have bought a set.
Apart from the rubbish receiver, I'm not getting into a slang match but I had 2 delkim TXI+ fail 3 days into a French trip due to water egress, the alarms were only 11 months old.
Too be fair to Delkim they were spot on and replaced them straight away I just lost all faith and sold them, if Delkim would have sorted the water ingress and receiver problems out I would have bought a set.
In reply to Post #10
no we all have our opinions and experiences m8 ............ but just to balance
as far as water ingress I was fishing in France when the Typhoon came thru apart from all the trees that snapped and bivvies that were ripped apart
My AMIAUD PECHE Carpo stainless 4 rod pod complete with 4 rods and reels and Delkims was lifted high in the air and dumped into 12 feet of lake
it took around 30 mins to recover everything I took out the battery's dried them all with a towel put them back together and everything worked perfect for the next 2 weeks that we were there
and we had about 3 days of continuous rain in that time and my receivers on all the delk models I have owned have always been perfect too
no we all have our opinions and experiences m8 ............ but just to balance
as far as water ingress I was fishing in France when the Typhoon came thru apart from all the trees that snapped and bivvies that were ripped apart
My AMIAUD PECHE Carpo stainless 4 rod pod complete with 4 rods and reels and Delkims was lifted high in the air and dumped into 12 feet of lake
it took around 30 mins to recover everything I took out the battery's dried them all with a towel put them back together and everything worked perfect for the next 2 weeks that we were there
and we had about 3 days of continuous rain in that time and my receivers on all the delk models I have owned have always been perfect too
In reply to Post #10
What do you think is rubbish about the reciever?
What do you think is rubbish about the reciever?
In reply to Post #12
Where I was fishing was heavily wooded and surround by bushes between my alarms and receiver even though it was around 3m away I couldn't get any indication on my receiver,
Since downgrading to a alarm set half the price I have no problems.
Your making out there's no issues with the Delkim TXI+ receiver when it's a known problem it's doesn't preform as good as it should.
Where I was fishing was heavily wooded and surround by bushes between my alarms and receiver even though it was around 3m away I couldn't get any indication on my receiver,
Since downgrading to a alarm set half the price I have no problems.
Your making out there's no issues with the Delkim TXI+ receiver when it's a known problem it's doesn't preform as good as it should.
In reply to Post #13
I simply asked what you thought was wrong with it? If you put it on distance setting it works fine in wooded areas though!
I simply asked what you thought was wrong with it? If you put it on distance setting it works fine in wooded areas though!
In reply to Post #13
It's not a known issue at all as both myself and my mate that's been fishing as long as me have never ever heard anyone else mention it ?
Could it have been a bad battery in the receiver ?.
It's not a known issue at all as both myself and my mate that's been fishing as long as me have never ever heard anyone else mention it ?
Could it have been a bad battery in the receiver ?.