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Distance rods - no leader (30 posts / 2,575 views)
carpyclarkey carpyclarkey
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Post #1 31 May 2020 11:58
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Looking for a new set of distance rods but will be fishing 15lb line straight through
Goose Goose
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Post #2 31 May 2020 12:38
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Aviator 13ft.
Torrix te 12ft6in.
Century c2d may need to up line diameter.
Infinity df x45 13ft 3.75tc.
Halfcentury
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Post #3 31 May 2020 13:10
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If you can't or aren't going to use leaders then I would stay away from 13ft 3.75 tc rods. With 15lb mono you would be much better off with 12ft 3lb or 3.25 rods. Where a 2oz to 3oz lead will let you load the rod effectively and you will be pretty safe from crack offs. To exploit the power of 3.75 rods fully you need a lead of 4-5 oz to be able to load the rod. Way outside the safety zone for 15lb mono.
Big distance casting rods require the use of shock leaders.
carpyclarkey carpyclarkey
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Post #4 31 May 2020 13:16
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I'm using 12ft Xs ives at the moment just wondered if a 13ft rod would add a bit. Can hit 132 yards with my current set up but thought a different rod may make it more comfortable. This is with a 3.5oz lead
Halfcentury
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Post #5 31 May 2020 13:31
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If you're casting 132yds consistently with 15lb mono straight through I reckon you are doing well. In my opinion once you are looking at casting 140 or further just changing the rods is unlikely to make much difference. It's about the whole package, rods, line, leaders, leads and possibly reels.
carpyclarkey carpyclarkey
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Post #6 31 May 2020 13:36
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Cheers mate, I did have a lesson a while back which really helped. Not chopping my rods in is a bonus as will save a some cash
noj
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Social photographer... Post #7 31 May 2020 13:56
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You want something progressive, built to compliment the action and open up the widow of performance. Forget test curve
A 13ft 4lb ballista and a 13ft factory trebuchet are similar on paper, but miles apart in use
RODDERS35 RODDERS35
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Post #8 31 May 2020 14:22
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Cotswold rods R1s, 3.25 tc, built for the purpose of no leaders..
Halfcentury
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Post #9 31 May 2020 15:14
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"you want something progressive, built to compliment the action and open up the window of performance" What on earth does that mean in the real world.
zinno
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Post #10 31 May 2020 15:16
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Free Spirit Hi's
noj
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Social photographer... Post #11 31 May 2020 15:25
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A blank that applies power progressively, with guides spaced to extract power from the whole rod and make it usable with different casting loads at various distances.
No good having a super fast broomstick that needs 5oz to load with a tiny window of performance without a shock leader
Halfcentury
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Post #12 31 May 2020 15:51
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Not sure guides have much effect on extracting power from a blank but definitely willing to learn. Other than that I think this is pretty much what I said in simpler terms. A good 12ft rod with a medium action and a bit of backbone is ample if you are restricted to 15lb mono straight through.
noj
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Social photographer... Post #13 31 May 2020 16:24
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Guides and where they are placed have a big effect.
Actually you didn't mention action at all. You just said above 3.25 tc is too much for 15lb line
SUNNYMEAD SUNNYMEAD
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Post #14 31 May 2020 17:02
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The ER's are better
scozza
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Post #15 31 May 2020 17:42
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In reply to Post #1
Century NG SU (stepped up). Made for casting long distance without a leader

Otherwise you are looking at a more progressive action for me. The question is for me, how far are you planning on casting without a leader?

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