Just a little test with a home made enzyme paste (made by Butterbean on the forum) vs frozen bloodworm in a tank.
Before someone goes off their hinges, we all know this is small koi in a tank and not necessarily comparable to a fishing situation. There is no commercial baits involved here so nobody should have to get upset over this.
There is bloodworm spread on the bottom and a large lump right next to the paste:
VIDEO HERE
Before someone goes off their hinges, we all know this is small koi in a tank and not necessarily comparable to a fishing situation. There is no commercial baits involved here so nobody should have to get upset over this.
There is bloodworm spread on the bottom and a large lump right next to the paste:
VIDEO HERE
In reply to Post #1
What conclusion do you draw from this then?
What conclusion do you draw from this then?
In reply to Post #2
That the fish sure likes the paste.
What conclusion did you draw yourself?
That the fish sure likes the paste.
What conclusion did you draw yourself?
In reply to Post #7
"Now a new study has shown for the first time that staring at swimming fish really does lower blood pressure and reduce heart rate. ... Watching fish also reduced blood pressure by four per cent. "
Obviously not working for everyone
"Now a new study has shown for the first time that staring at swimming fish really does lower blood pressure and reduce heart rate. ... Watching fish also reduced blood pressure by four per cent. "
Obviously not working for everyone
In reply to Post #1
They certainly liked it and it created competitive feeding, how do the fish behave or what sort of feeding response do you get if there was just a block of bloodworm there ?
They certainly liked it and it created competitive feeding, how do the fish behave or what sort of feeding response do you get if there was just a block of bloodworm there ?
In reply to Post #10
How would you relate this to optimal foraging theory... Which in this case would state that the paste would be selected, especially by juveniles, over the bloodworm, as the energy expended to gain the nutritional benefits will be considerably lower for the paste?
How would you relate this to optimal foraging theory... Which in this case would state that the paste would be selected, especially by juveniles, over the bloodworm, as the energy expended to gain the nutritional benefits will be considerably lower for the paste?
Thread tidied.
No decent input then it's probably best not to post on the thread
No decent input then it's probably best not to post on the thread
I think you have an issue here with the size of food on offer. Block of bloodworm vs block of paste of the same size would be more fair.
New theory, enzymes don't exist on this flat earth we live on
New theory, enzymes don't exist on this flat earth we live on
In reply to Post #10
Just a block of bloodworm gives a similar reaction, but its torn to pieces pretty fast and spread all over.
Greek, the lump of bloodworm next to the paste is pretty similar in size. It was a full block but I squashed it to make it sink so there is single worms around it.
By no means claiming this is a serious test, but still interesting to watch in my opinion.
Just a block of bloodworm gives a similar reaction, but its torn to pieces pretty fast and spread all over.
Greek, the lump of bloodworm next to the paste is pretty similar in size. It was a full block but I squashed it to make it sink so there is single worms around it.
By no means claiming this is a serious test, but still interesting to watch in my opinion.
In reply to Post #14
Definitely mate. I find the reaction to daphnia in a fish tank interesting. Maybe that could be the next test?
Definitely mate. I find the reaction to daphnia in a fish tank interesting. Maybe that could be the next test?
In reply to Post #15
It would definetly be interesting to test if I can get any.
I tried live white mosquito larvae one time and the daft tank fish spent ages before they understood that it was possible to eat them.
It would definetly be interesting to test if I can get any.
I tried live white mosquito larvae one time and the daft tank fish spent ages before they understood that it was possible to eat them.
In reply to Post #11
Hi NW,
Not quite sure of the point you are making.
It seemed to me the fish took no notice of the bloodworm and expended plenty of their energy fighting over the paste.
As Viking says, this and the many other tests he has done are in no way scientifically viable, but it's the best he is able to do, on the side, whilst he is busy running a bait company.
As we know, you use enzymes in your bait and are fully aware of how effective they can be.
BB.
Hi NW,
Not quite sure of the point you are making.
It seemed to me the fish took no notice of the bloodworm and expended plenty of their energy fighting over the paste.
As Viking says, this and the many other tests he has done are in no way scientifically viable, but it's the best he is able to do, on the side, whilst he is busy running a bait company.
As we know, you use enzymes in your bait and are fully aware of how effective they can be.
BB.
In reply to Post #17
That's not the point, BB. The test is pointless, the comparison is completely non-scientific. Read up on it... It is about expending the least energy to get the maximum benefit.
What would be interesting is to see a vid of the paste vs identical paste excluding enzymes, with the paste 'ball' of the same size and shape.
And yes, if the circumstances permit, I will use enzymes as you know, and there's a lot we agree on!
That's not the point, BB. The test is pointless, the comparison is completely non-scientific. Read up on it... It is about expending the least energy to get the maximum benefit.
What would be interesting is to see a vid of the paste vs identical paste excluding enzymes, with the paste 'ball' of the same size and shape.
And yes, if the circumstances permit, I will use enzymes as you know, and there's a lot we agree on!
In reply to Post #18
"What would be interesting is to see a vid of the paste vs identical paste excluding enzymes, with the paste 'ball' of the same size and shape."
RIGHT HERE
Notice what happens when the fish feeding on the "non enz" ball (right side) get a whiff of the enz paste.
"What would be interesting is to see a vid of the paste vs identical paste excluding enzymes, with the paste 'ball' of the same size and shape."
RIGHT HERE
Notice what happens when the fish feeding on the "non enz" ball (right side) get a whiff of the enz paste.
In reply to Post #19
Interesting....food for thought....
Interesting....food for thought....