A while ago there was a thread which talked about a bit of kit that you use to press stick mix with and it leaves a hole through the middle for the hooklink to go though.
You could also add stuff to the mix that would let you freeze the finished stick
Anyone remember who sells/sold them (or have a link to the thread)?
You could also add stuff to the mix that would let you freeze the finished stick
Anyone remember who sells/sold them (or have a link to the thread)?
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55's is yer man. .
55's is yer man. .
In reply to Post #1
Carp tart bagless wonder
https://www.carptart.com/product-page/6
Carp tart bagless wonder
https://www.carptart.com/product-page/6
In reply to Post #3
Nice one, thanks both
Nice one, thanks both
are these better than a normal pva stick?
There is also the long defunct "Badger Baitbomb" one of which I bought at the "Go Angling Show" when it was at the Birmingham NEC many many years ago, 20+ years ago possibly? which I still use to this day. It was also known as the "Fryers Baitledger" which was embossed into the plastic and all Badger did was stick a label over the top of it.
But, Gardner has carried on with it and is still sold under the name of "Bait Bomb" and there is plenty of them on Ebay. Two different sizes in a twin pack for £9.99, that is a bargain.
I also made my own version of it out of some steel pipe and a plunger out of steel which I used at home. I would just fill it with mix, stick the plunger into the tube, rest it on a kerbstone in the garden and compress it with a great wallop or two from a lump hammer. Then make a hole through the centre with a steel skewer for BBQ's etc and push it out and freeze it.
One thing you have to remember, if you use one that makes a groove down the side and freeze them, when it comes to using them, you have to seal that groove up before casting, if you use a wet mix whilst your fishing, its just a case of insert the hooklength and then give it a squeeze by hand to seal that groove up. If you make them with a hole down the middle and freeze them, you just use a long baiting needle to pull the hooklength through.
Very few people use them, I can cast easily up to 50 yards with one and they are even better if you use a baitboat, but in that case, I find it just as easy to make a ball of groundbait with my hands with the hookbait in the middle or use a "Nash Ballmaker".
I might have posted in the link your reffering too
But, Gardner has carried on with it and is still sold under the name of "Bait Bomb" and there is plenty of them on Ebay. Two different sizes in a twin pack for £9.99, that is a bargain.
I also made my own version of it out of some steel pipe and a plunger out of steel which I used at home. I would just fill it with mix, stick the plunger into the tube, rest it on a kerbstone in the garden and compress it with a great wallop or two from a lump hammer. Then make a hole through the centre with a steel skewer for BBQ's etc and push it out and freeze it.
One thing you have to remember, if you use one that makes a groove down the side and freeze them, when it comes to using them, you have to seal that groove up before casting, if you use a wet mix whilst your fishing, its just a case of insert the hooklength and then give it a squeeze by hand to seal that groove up. If you make them with a hole down the middle and freeze them, you just use a long baiting needle to pull the hooklength through.
Very few people use them, I can cast easily up to 50 yards with one and they are even better if you use a baitboat, but in that case, I find it just as easy to make a ball of groundbait with my hands with the hookbait in the middle or use a "Nash Ballmaker".
I might have posted in the link your reffering too
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Original thread is here, I have both the carp tart versions.
LINKY POO™ https://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=439867&ReadAll=1
Original thread is here, I have both the carp tart versions.
LINKY POO™ https://www.carpforum.co.uk/Shared/Messages.asp?TopicID=439867&ReadAll=1
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The “proper” one is either 20mm or 25mm depending on large or small version
And the guy who makes the carp tart one is also a member on this forum so just support him.
Without the proper versions the copycats won't have anything to make so you will loose both eventually.
The “proper” one is either 20mm or 25mm depending on large or small version
And the guy who makes the carp tart one is also a member on this forum so just support him.
Without the proper versions the copycats won't have anything to make so you will loose both eventually.
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Horses for courses really
In most instances it saves pva.
Horses for courses really
In most instances it saves pva.
In reply to Post #5
I've got one, it functions well and I use it when fishing close in, if I'm putting I bit more effort into the cast for distance I still tend to use PVA mesh or bag, it's a confidence thing.
😂😂
Tel
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I've got one, it functions well and I use it when fishing close in, if I'm putting I bit more effort into the cast for distance I still tend to use PVA mesh or bag, it's a confidence thing.
😂😂
Tel
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Any ideas what percentage of binding agent (Horlicks or milk powder) I should look at including in a mix?
I'm trying some of the Sticky Manilla spod and bag mix and prepping/freezing before I go.
Any ideas what percentage of binding agent (Horlicks or milk powder) I should look at including in a mix?
I'm trying some of the Sticky Manilla spod and bag mix and prepping/freezing before I go.
I'd imagine these just obliterate when they hit the water surface?
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If you want them to, by altering the mix they can, conversely they can also be made not too.
Breakdown times can also be changed in the same way.
If you prepare them in advance and allow them to dry out you can basically make the equivalent of pellets with them.
If you want them to, by altering the mix they can, conversely they can also be made not too.
Breakdown times can also be changed in the same way.
If you prepare them in advance and allow them to dry out you can basically make the equivalent of pellets with them.
In reply to Post #13
No more or less than a method mix. Depends what the mix is.
No more or less than a method mix. Depends what the mix is.
With anything practise makes perfect
The more you compress the firmer they become and the longer the breakdown time.
As an example,
If you crumb up some boilies and loose fill the container to the top
When you put the plunger in and really compress it you can get it down to around a third.
Just then keep topping it up and compressing until you get the length you want.
No binder needed if using crumb.
I think iirc
In Jackos book he used one to catch 2 tone but using compressed bread crumb.
I could have a quick read to check..
Here's a Jacko video on it
https://youtu.be/yRIxMz2Tm74?si=aaDR4kO4-RkxV-LD
The more you compress the firmer they become and the longer the breakdown time.
As an example,
If you crumb up some boilies and loose fill the container to the top
When you put the plunger in and really compress it you can get it down to around a third.
Just then keep topping it up and compressing until you get the length you want.
No binder needed if using crumb.
I think iirc
In Jackos book he used one to catch 2 tone but using compressed bread crumb.
I could have a quick read to check..
Here's a Jacko video on it
https://youtu.be/yRIxMz2Tm74?si=aaDR4kO4-RkxV-LD
In reply to Post #12
I started trying to use exact measurements depending on what stick mix ingredients I was using and almost disappeared up my own backside with different textures and absorption rates.
My philosophy now is simply make it up like a moist method mix, you'll know when it's right, they compress like pellets, but breakdown in a sensible time.
I thought I'd get away from bags/mesh with it, but the reality is I haven't, I still use bags and mesh for longer distances.
I prefer the stick maker when I'm using a bait boat with a sloppy or wet mix that melts PVA or up to 40/50 metres casting range, I tend not to cast to the clip when I use it, hope that makes sense, just have a tinker with the mix, it's not difficult and brings a smile to your face when you get it right👍
Tel
I started trying to use exact measurements depending on what stick mix ingredients I was using and almost disappeared up my own backside with different textures and absorption rates.
My philosophy now is simply make it up like a moist method mix, you'll know when it's right, they compress like pellets, but breakdown in a sensible time.
I thought I'd get away from bags/mesh with it, but the reality is I haven't, I still use bags and mesh for longer distances.
I prefer the stick maker when I'm using a bait boat with a sloppy or wet mix that melts PVA or up to 40/50 metres casting range, I tend not to cast to the clip when I use it, hope that makes sense, just have a tinker with the mix, it's not difficult and brings a smile to your face when you get it right👍
Tel
In reply to Post #17
Thanks framey + elltell
Thanks framey + elltell
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Thanks for bringing this up again. I'd had these in the basket since the last time they were mentioned, yesterday I paid for them.
As someone who rarely casts out without a stick on the hooklink these should be great.
Thanks for bringing this up again. I'd had these in the basket since the last time they were mentioned, yesterday I paid for them.
As someone who rarely casts out without a stick on the hooklink these should be great.
In reply to Post #18
Let us know how you get on👍👍
Tel
Let us know how you get on👍👍
Tel
In reply to Post #19
Do you get both for £17.50? I can't see where you choose the size before you add to basket
Do you get both for £17.50? I can't see where you choose the size before you add to basket
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I think there is only one size now,I wanted the smaller one,but got the larger sent...
No biggie tho..
I think there is only one size now,I wanted the smaller one,but got the larger sent...
No biggie tho..
In reply to Post #22
they good mate?
they good mate?
In reply to Post #21
To be honest I thought it was £17.50 for the pair, being as there wasn't an option, pretty disappointed when only the one arrived and it was the larger size. It's also a lot shorter than I like to use my sticks, so I'll be carrying on with PVA I think.
To be honest I thought it was £17.50 for the pair, being as there wasn't an option, pretty disappointed when only the one arrived and it was the larger size. It's also a lot shorter than I like to use my sticks, so I'll be carrying on with PVA I think.
In reply to Post #24
Could you pull a rig through with a shot on or putty i.e. a pop-up rig? I was wondering how big the center hole is when punched out.
Could you pull a rig through with a shot on or putty i.e. a pop-up rig? I was wondering how big the center hole is when punched out.
In reply to Post #25
I'll have a little dabble when I remember and report back.
I'll have a little dabble when I remember and report back.
In reply to Post #26
Nice one Andy. Cheers
Nice one Andy. Cheers
In reply to Post #25
Hole is a couple of mm so you may struggle to pull a rig through with shot on. A little bit of putty may make it through
Hole is a couple of mm so you may struggle to pull a rig through with shot on. A little bit of putty may make it through
In reply to Post #28
It did look like only a small hole in the video. Thanks for checking and replying.
It did look like only a small hole in the video. Thanks for checking and replying.
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