Hi , any recommendations please for a throwing stick that's suited to shorter ranges and small baits , thanks .
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I'd make one from a old butt section if you have one. Very easy.
I'd make one from a old butt section if you have one. Very easy.
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Assuming a catapult wont get the baits where you want them, i would just buy a cheap plastic ngt throwing stick. £6 post free on ebay
Assuming a catapult wont get the baits where you want them, i would just buy a cheap plastic ngt throwing stick. £6 post free on ebay
Nash Deliverance Stealth Stick? You have to give it an aggresive flick but its a good little stick.
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I use one on my smaller syndicate water up to 2 1/2 acres, one particular swim the furthest tree line is 70 yards and that is about my limit with it the odd one goes a tad further, I'd say anywhere up to or between 50 to 60 yards are ideal/comfortable with the stealth stick.
I use one on my smaller syndicate water up to 2 1/2 acres, one particular swim the furthest tree line is 70 yards and that is about my limit with it the odd one goes a tad further, I'd say anywhere up to or between 50 to 60 yards are ideal/comfortable with the stealth stick.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Having looked at the Nash deliverance stealth stick I can only see it in 20mm . Would this be suitable for smaller 12-14mm baits , thanks ?
Thanks for the suggestions. Having looked at the Nash deliverance stealth stick I can only see it in 20mm . Would this be suitable for smaller 12-14mm baits , thanks ?
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Smallest I have used was 16mm.
Smallest I have used was 16mm.
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I use it for 15mm and that works really well. Surprising good distance as well.
I use it for 15mm and that works really well. Surprising good distance as well.
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Thanks for that . Do you find it good for shorter ranges , cheers ?
Thanks for that . Do you find it good for shorter ranges , cheers ?
For short range you need a short stick. Nash used to do a dedicated short range jobby, it was only about 40 or 50cm long. It was great for close in stuff. It looks like the Stealth Deliverance is the latest incarnation of that.
Google reckons Prologic did one as well and although it's been discontinued I managed to find some old stock:
https://www.pecheur.com/en/gb/buy-throwing-stick-prologic-cruzade-short-range-sticks-148856.html
None of the longer sticks will give you any real accuracy at short range imo.
Google reckons Prologic did one as well and although it's been discontinued I managed to find some old stock:
https://www.pecheur.com/en/gb/buy-throwing-stick-prologic-cruzade-short-range-sticks-148856.html
None of the longer sticks will give you any real accuracy at short range imo.
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Gardner Scorpion is what I use good for up to 90yds👍
Gardner Scorpion is what I use good for up to 90yds👍
What sort of range are you talking?
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Same korda stick I do have an orginal cobra one put rather use my korda. Just use a slight different flick for shorter distances.
Same korda stick I do have an orginal cobra one put rather use my korda. Just use a slight different flick for shorter distances.
Somewhere in the forums I have instructions how to make one for short distance, basically just get some conduit or buy a cheap carbon whip, you can buy them for less than a "Tenner", cut off 18" from the butt, then make a bung that will fit in the handle and push it up from the bottom and it should be about level with the top of the hand when you hold it. Somewhere along the lines, manufacturers stopped putting bungs in sticks, but they need them and make them far easier to use.
All it needs is a flicking action from the wrist, if the boillie flys out high, just push the bung down a slight bit, if the boillie flies out low, push the bung up a bit. Basically you want the boilie to fly out the top of the stick parallel to the surface of the water. Do not try and change your action to make the stick work, just stick with a 2 o'clock to 10 o'clock action until you have the stick "tuned".
Do not cut a diagonal at the top of the stick, if you do, you then have to fit a handgrip to match the diagonal to hold the stick correctly, otherwise if you hold the stick with the diagonal slightly twisted, it will throw the boilie off line slightly as the boilies leaves the stick on the edge of the diagonal and you lose accuracy. If you want a rubber butt cap etc, just get one off Ebay or get a walking stick rubber end.
If you have a copy of Rod Hutchinson's book "The Carp Strikes Back", their is instructions how to make a stick, but Rod has a diagonal in his design, but they do not need it, they just affect the accuracy.
With a stick made like this and you learn how to use it, you can get pinpoint accuracy up to around 50yds and almost all your baits in on top of each other in a very tight group.
All it needs is a flicking action from the wrist, if the boillie flys out high, just push the bung down a slight bit, if the boillie flies out low, push the bung up a bit. Basically you want the boilie to fly out the top of the stick parallel to the surface of the water. Do not try and change your action to make the stick work, just stick with a 2 o'clock to 10 o'clock action until you have the stick "tuned".
Do not cut a diagonal at the top of the stick, if you do, you then have to fit a handgrip to match the diagonal to hold the stick correctly, otherwise if you hold the stick with the diagonal slightly twisted, it will throw the boilie off line slightly as the boilies leaves the stick on the edge of the diagonal and you lose accuracy. If you want a rubber butt cap etc, just get one off Ebay or get a walking stick rubber end.
If you have a copy of Rod Hutchinson's book "The Carp Strikes Back", their is instructions how to make a stick, but Rod has a diagonal in his design, but they do not need it, they just affect the accuracy.
With a stick made like this and you learn how to use it, you can get pinpoint accuracy up to around 50yds and almost all your baits in on top of each other in a very tight group.
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It's okay for shorter ranges, but I'd rather use a catapult then. I'm much more accurate with that, than trying a real short range flick with the stick. What would you classify as short range?
For me the sweet spot for that Nash stick is between 40-70 yards with a 15mm boilie.
It's okay for shorter ranges, but I'd rather use a catapult then. I'm much more accurate with that, than trying a real short range flick with the stick. What would you classify as short range?
For me the sweet spot for that Nash stick is between 40-70 yards with a 15mm boilie.
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Thanks for all the replies . I'm looking for up to around 40/50yards . Much prefer using a stick and remember seeing one of the shorter sticks a while back but can't remember the make . I had Harrison in my head but not really sure . I have an ace velocity stick which is great but not ideal for shorter ranges , cheers .
Thanks for all the replies . I'm looking for up to around 40/50yards . Much prefer using a stick and remember seeing one of the shorter sticks a while back but can't remember the make . I had Harrison in my head but not really sure . I have an ace velocity stick which is great but not ideal for shorter ranges , cheers .
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I'd rather use a catapult then. I'm much more accurate with that, than trying a real short range flick with the stick
A catty is defo more accurate, but for me that's not what a stick is about. A spod is more accurate too, but the stick is better for a spread imo. Even at short range.
I'd rather use a catapult then. I'm much more accurate with that, than trying a real short range flick with the stick
A catty is defo more accurate, but for me that's not what a stick is about. A spod is more accurate too, but the stick is better for a spread imo. Even at short range.
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I've used the short pro logic one for a few years, so accurate up to 50 yards 👍 I've used it with 12&14mm baits regular and works a treat.
I've used the short pro logic one for a few years, so accurate up to 50 yards 👍 I've used it with 12&14mm baits regular and works a treat.
The only stick I can actually use accurately is the original orange cobra stick, I found the longer curved ones I would fire the baits down at the water or shoot the boilers tothe right.
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LINKY POO™ https://cjscustomrods.co.uk/product/chukka-throwing-stick/
These were mentioned in an earlier thread, but I don't recall seeing any user feedback
LINKY POO™ https://cjscustomrods.co.uk/product/chukka-throwing-stick/
These were mentioned in an earlier thread, but I don't recall seeing any user feedback
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Look really good how you can customise it any feedback
Look really good how you can customise it any feedback
I'm pretty sure it was Gardner who sold a short throwing stick years ago which was basically a piece of black overflow pipe with a bung on one end. Something tells me it was aimed at flicking maggots out, but my memory may be playing tricks?
Anyway, a simple piece of overflow pipe will be perfect for what you're trying to achieve.
Anyway, a simple piece of overflow pipe will be perfect for what you're trying to achieve.
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It was Gardner that brought the short throwing stick out in the '80's, it had a bicycle hand grip on the end. I still have mine and still use it, What makes it unique is it has a bung in it which manufacturers do not put in their sticks today. The bung makes them far easier to use and very accurate. I use mine up to about 50 yards.
It was Gardner that brought the short throwing stick out in the '80's, it had a bicycle hand grip on the end. I still have mine and still use it, What makes it unique is it has a bung in it which manufacturers do not put in their sticks today. The bung makes them far easier to use and very accurate. I use mine up to about 50 yards.
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Mine will still be tucked away in the garage somewhere, like so many things from the 80's and 90's lol
Mine will still be tucked away in the garage somewhere, like so many things from the 80's and 90's lol
Harrison Accurix. Silly price but I don't regret buying it for mid range use
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A catty is defo more accurate, but for me that's not what a stick is about. A spod is more accurate too, but the stick is better for a spread imo. Even at short range.
With respect and apologies this is the most bonkers thing I've read in a while. You want a short range spread of bait and would rather use a stick than a catapult, as that is too accurate? A pult at short range is as accurate or inaccurate as you want - I promise. At range then a stick is a necessary evil, but a gull magnet.
A catty is defo more accurate, but for me that's not what a stick is about. A spod is more accurate too, but the stick is better for a spread imo. Even at short range.
With respect and apologies this is the most bonkers thing I've read in a while. You want a short range spread of bait and would rather use a stick than a catapult, as that is too accurate? A pult at short range is as accurate or inaccurate as you want - I promise. At range then a stick is a necessary evil, but a gull magnet.
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Maybe when putting out single baits yeah. But when using a catty for a few baits they tend to land in a fairly tight cluster, whereas a few baits in a stick you can get a better spread. Yonnys comment is spot on.
Maybe when putting out single baits yeah. But when using a catty for a few baits they tend to land in a fairly tight cluster, whereas a few baits in a stick you can get a better spread. Yonnys comment is spot on.
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If you just put a couple of baits at a time in the catapult surely you can aim them where you want and do your own spread.Its less time consuming than putting one bait out at a time too and imo far more accurate than a stick
If you just put a couple of baits at a time in the catapult surely you can aim them where you want and do your own spread.Its less time consuming than putting one bait out at a time too and imo far more accurate than a stick
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You can but with the stick especially at short range you can be putting out far more than 2 baits every time so it's a lot quicker. Accuracy comes with practice too. Each to their own
You can but with the stick especially at short range you can be putting out far more than 2 baits every time so it's a lot quicker. Accuracy comes with practice too. Each to their own
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The small nash stick is spot on. Use it all the time with anything up to about 50 yards.
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