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Electric Cordless Caulking Gun Glass Mastic Sealant Gun w Battery For Makita
So my bait rolling has stepped up a bit over last couple months ,where I've proved to myself I can produce a half decent bait for relatively cheap. Anyways I'm now working on the next steps to ramp up my kilo per hour production, I have a very decent hand caulking gun, I can just about manage a 12/15 egg mix, (circa 2kg) but to make it economical I wanna get up to the 5kg an hour mark. Is this gun good enough you think... Major blocker is the hand ache after 10eggs it takes me ages to squeeze the last few guns out....
Approx
10 mins set up
20 min make dough and rolling into sausages
20 min boiling
10 min tidy away
Gut feeling I need to accept that doing bigger batches is easier and less hassle so needed a battery caulking gun
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Electric Cordless Caulking Gun Glass Mastic Sealant Gun w Battery For Makita
So my bait rolling has stepped up a bit over last couple months ,where I've proved to myself I can produce a half decent bait for relatively cheap. Anyways I'm now working on the next steps to ramp up my kilo per hour production, I have a very decent hand caulking gun, I can just about manage a 12/15 egg mix, (circa 2kg) but to make it economical I wanna get up to the 5kg an hour mark. Is this gun good enough you think... Major blocker is the hand ache after 10eggs it takes me ages to squeeze the last few guns out....
Approx
10 mins set up
20 min make dough and rolling into sausages
20 min boiling
10 min tidy away
Gut feeling I need to accept that doing bigger batches is easier and less hassle so needed a battery caulking gun
In reply to Post #1
Personally I'd go down the road of a small compressor and an air powered gun. I destroyed my battery gun after a couple of years. A decent mixer will speed up your rolling a lot.
Personally I'd go down the road of a small compressor and an air powered gun. I destroyed my battery gun after a couple of years. A decent mixer will speed up your rolling a lot.
In reply to Post #2
I'm lucky to be able to “borrow” a compressor from work. Air caulking gun from alibaba was about £35 delivered and just needed to buy the green plunger off the Gardner spares site for a tenner iirc. Sped things up massively, only improvements if you wanted to do loads in ones hit would be if you could get hold of a 5kg container so as not to load so often, and one of the old Solar multi nozzles, tho i think 5mix do them.
Saying that, i tend to do 5kg dry at a time, and really doesnt take long.
I'm lucky to be able to “borrow” a compressor from work. Air caulking gun from alibaba was about £35 delivered and just needed to buy the green plunger off the Gardner spares site for a tenner iirc. Sped things up massively, only improvements if you wanted to do loads in ones hit would be if you could get hold of a 5kg container so as not to load so often, and one of the old Solar multi nozzles, tho i think 5mix do them.
Saying that, i tend to do 5kg dry at a time, and really doesnt take long.
In reply to Post #1
The orange China gun is the one you want, it's a revalation
Ebay item number: 404634962547
The orange China gun is the one you want, it's a revalation
Ebay item number: 404634962547
In reply to Post #4
That's the one I had but i eventually blew it up. Mine didn't like harder mixes. Was perfect for hookbaits and soft nut mixes. But one of mine is firm and it killed it.
I would suggest gluing the plastic retaining nut to stop it getting ripped off of the threads if you get one. That's what finished mine off.
That's the one I had but i eventually blew it up. Mine didn't like harder mixes. Was perfect for hookbaits and soft nut mixes. But one of mine is firm and it killed it.
I would suggest gluing the plastic retaining nut to stop it getting ripped off of the threads if you get one. That's what finished mine off.
In reply to Post #4
What nozzles does it take mate?
What nozzles does it take mate?
I splashed out on the Dewalt gun a few years back.
Combined with a big table and big Kenwood mixer I can do 5 kg in an hour including washing up.
I not not tried the orange gun but I have heard good reports. Bloke in youtube does a review on this type.
Combined with a big table and big Kenwood mixer I can do 5 kg in an hour including washing up.
I not not tried the orange gun but I have heard good reports. Bloke in youtube does a review on this type.
In reply to Post #6
I have a Gardner cap on the front.
I have a Gardner cap on the front.
In reply to Post #8
Quote... I have a Gardner cap on the front.
Be careful with that mate. They explode. The ABS plastic is not strong enough for that gun. I've blown two up. They go with a nasty bang when they go. Yellow witches hats off eBay and the metal collar supplied.
Or you will find out yourself eventually I promise
Quote... I have a Gardner cap on the front.
Be careful with that mate. They explode. The ABS plastic is not strong enough for that gun. I've blown two up. They go with a nasty bang when they go. Yellow witches hats off eBay and the metal collar supplied.
Or you will find out yourself eventually I promise
In reply to Post #5
Quote... That's the one I had but i eventually blew it up. Mine didn't like harder mixes. Was perfect for hookbaits and soft nut mixes. But one of mine is firm and it killed it. I would suggest gluing the plastic retaining nut to stop it getting ripped off of the threads if you get one. That's what finished mine off.
I saw you say this in another thread mate. I am genuinely interested, as our original gun has been faultless now after three years and it's been so abused. A second one has been going for two years now. We are running a high percentage of solid cork through the guns, which is stiffer than any base mix. Was it the white plastic nut behind the plunger? The big one that connects to the drill body?
Can I ask, is it a fishmeal you were rolling? With fish oils? We do not add any oils whatsoever pre boiling, so our guns do not see lots of fish oil. I know from my previous branded caulking gun that I had for donkeys years, that ABS plastics do not like fish oil over a period of time, it deteriorates the collars too. It seems to break them down.
Quote... That's the one I had but i eventually blew it up. Mine didn't like harder mixes. Was perfect for hookbaits and soft nut mixes. But one of mine is firm and it killed it. I would suggest gluing the plastic retaining nut to stop it getting ripped off of the threads if you get one. That's what finished mine off.
I saw you say this in another thread mate. I am genuinely interested, as our original gun has been faultless now after three years and it's been so abused. A second one has been going for two years now. We are running a high percentage of solid cork through the guns, which is stiffer than any base mix. Was it the white plastic nut behind the plunger? The big one that connects to the drill body?
Can I ask, is it a fishmeal you were rolling? With fish oils? We do not add any oils whatsoever pre boiling, so our guns do not see lots of fish oil. I know from my previous branded caulking gun that I had for donkeys years, that ABS plastics do not like fish oil over a period of time, it deteriorates the collars too. It seems to break them down.
In reply to Post #9
I have a metal screw cap on the front, not sure if it's Gardner or off an old Cox air gun.
The Gardner insert fits inside.
I use the witches hats for larger mixes, and the small green Gardner inserts for 1-2 egg hook bait mixes.
I have a metal screw cap on the front, not sure if it's Gardner or off an old Cox air gun.
The Gardner insert fits inside.
I use the witches hats for larger mixes, and the small green Gardner inserts for 1-2 egg hook bait mixes.
In reply to Post #11
Yes it's those that go. You will be left with the bottom flat part of that nozzle insert, like a large washer when it goes. The rest of it will literally blow out at 500mph
The Gardner or Cox plastic collars or inserts are not suitable to use with those guns. It's dangerous when it goes honestly. I've found out the hard way because I done exactly the same thing you have. I used a plastic collar too as well as that insert at first. Lewis sent me a load of replacement bits I asked for when he was still there. But it's not the fault of the plastic collars I was using, or nozzle insert you are using there. It's our fault! They are made for a manual hand gun, we are putting them onto a far more powerful battery operated drill lol. After I blew up two of those inserts you are using there, and also a plastic collar that blew the whole thread off at the start. We stopped using any plastic attachments apart from the yellow witches hats and the metal collars.
All good ever since.
That insert will blow up. First one of mine took nearly year. Replacement after 3 or 4 months. But they will go in my experience. Like yourself, I also preferred using that nozzle holder rather than a witches hat at first... But it's simply not possible long term.
Yes it's those that go. You will be left with the bottom flat part of that nozzle insert, like a large washer when it goes. The rest of it will literally blow out at 500mph
The Gardner or Cox plastic collars or inserts are not suitable to use with those guns. It's dangerous when it goes honestly. I've found out the hard way because I done exactly the same thing you have. I used a plastic collar too as well as that insert at first. Lewis sent me a load of replacement bits I asked for when he was still there. But it's not the fault of the plastic collars I was using, or nozzle insert you are using there. It's our fault! They are made for a manual hand gun, we are putting them onto a far more powerful battery operated drill lol. After I blew up two of those inserts you are using there, and also a plastic collar that blew the whole thread off at the start. We stopped using any plastic attachments apart from the yellow witches hats and the metal collars.
All good ever since.
That insert will blow up. First one of mine took nearly year. Replacement after 3 or 4 months. But they will go in my experience. Like yourself, I also preferred using that nozzle holder rather than a witches hat at first... But it's simply not possible long term.
Screwfix do the witches hats. Quite easy to cut to size with a sharp knife.
In reply to Post #10
Hi. Happy new year.
You might be on to something there. I used the gun for pop ups and wafters without any issues. It wasn't until I started to use it to turn out a fishmeal mix that the problems happened probably a year later. My mix contains fish oils, fish hydro, sardine meal and CLO. So quite a bit of oily ingredients. I always put it down to the stiffer mix but you could be right and it was down to deterioration of the plastics as the problems took probably a year to occur. Now even a soft pop up mix will rip the tube off of the threads.
Hi. Happy new year.
You might be on to something there. I used the gun for pop ups and wafters without any issues. It wasn't until I started to use it to turn out a fishmeal mix that the problems happened probably a year later. My mix contains fish oils, fish hydro, sardine meal and CLO. So quite a bit of oily ingredients. I always put it down to the stiffer mix but you could be right and it was down to deterioration of the plastics as the problems took probably a year to occur. Now even a soft pop up mix will rip the tube off of the threads.
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Happy new year.
Yes, I def think that it is the added fish oils doing that. It melts the cheap plastics over a longer period of time. My old branded gun was faultless for years. Including running loads fishmeal through it. The moment I started using a lot of fish oil in the mix though that was going through the gun, all the plastic attachments became useless within months. Not the locking nut like yours (I think my old branded one was actually metal). Plastic nozzles, and even the plastic collars for me. They started literally disintegrating over a period of time, it was noticeably the oil doing it, likely combined with the torque pressure the guns exert.
Someone more intelligent than me, told me that because all plastics are made from oil, certain types of cheap plastic do not like constant exposure to oil. It deteriorates them over a period of time, basically melting them and returning them to their original state. That adds up to my experiences, and what has happened to you. The photo below is our original unit. Everything except the metal tube on that is from the first one I purchased, including the battery. The tube is virtually brand new. We have six of the tubes in operation, on two guns.
It's no secret our GPB2 contains 33% soluble fishmeal. That gets run through the guns all of the time, and is fine. The problem is clearly if we add fish oils to the paste. That caused me lots of problems with my old gun.
Anyone else who purchased one of these orange guns. Don't put heavily fish oil saturated mixes through the gun long term. Add the oil afterwards before freezing. Fishmeal mixes are absolutely fine. Fishmeal with a lot of fish oil added to the mix, not good long term.
Happy new year.
Yes, I def think that it is the added fish oils doing that. It melts the cheap plastics over a longer period of time. My old branded gun was faultless for years. Including running loads fishmeal through it. The moment I started using a lot of fish oil in the mix though that was going through the gun, all the plastic attachments became useless within months. Not the locking nut like yours (I think my old branded one was actually metal). Plastic nozzles, and even the plastic collars for me. They started literally disintegrating over a period of time, it was noticeably the oil doing it, likely combined with the torque pressure the guns exert.
Someone more intelligent than me, told me that because all plastics are made from oil, certain types of cheap plastic do not like constant exposure to oil. It deteriorates them over a period of time, basically melting them and returning them to their original state. That adds up to my experiences, and what has happened to you. The photo below is our original unit. Everything except the metal tube on that is from the first one I purchased, including the battery. The tube is virtually brand new. We have six of the tubes in operation, on two guns.
It's no secret our GPB2 contains 33% soluble fishmeal. That gets run through the guns all of the time, and is fine. The problem is clearly if we add fish oils to the paste. That caused me lots of problems with my old gun.
Anyone else who purchased one of these orange guns. Don't put heavily fish oil saturated mixes through the gun long term. Add the oil afterwards before freezing. Fishmeal mixes are absolutely fine. Fishmeal with a lot of fish oil added to the mix, not good long term.
In reply to Post #15
I guess the other thing to bear in mind is the amount of use it's going to get. For a home roller who's making himself 20kg a month it would probably take years to have an effect. But for people turning out larger volumes they might need to be a little more careful to prolong the life of the gun.
One things for sure. Having owned one of these, even if I was just rolling for myself at home I could never go back to using a Gardner hand gun. These orange guns were a revelation when I first got mine. Not only on saving my forearm but also on the consistency in f the extrusion. You get far less misshapes and wastage.
I guess the other thing to bear in mind is the amount of use it's going to get. For a home roller who's making himself 20kg a month it would probably take years to have an effect. But for people turning out larger volumes they might need to be a little more careful to prolong the life of the gun.
One things for sure. Having owned one of these, even if I was just rolling for myself at home I could never go back to using a Gardner hand gun. These orange guns were a revelation when I first got mine. Not only on saving my forearm but also on the consistency in f the extrusion. You get far less misshapes and wastage.
In reply to Post #16
The deluxe metal tubed Cox hand powered gun from Gardner is £69.99 at Johnson Ross if you google. Break your ****ing arm trying to gun out a kilo like everyone did for twenty five years. The other option was a noisy compressor. Fine in a unit/garage or the shed. Not fine in the house with er indoors or the neighbours.
That orange gun in the photo I paid a tenner more for. £80 I think it was. They are even cheaper on eBay now. Baitman's link they were like £70
That one gun in the photo has made me a lot of money using it all day, everyday in a work environment.
For a home roller, they are simply the best thing ever since sliced bread.
They are far better than my old Milwaukee caulking gun. Monstrously better than the £369 cox lithium equivalent. Even if we broke one every couple of months at work, I would still purchase more. But we can't break them.
We broke a £369 Cox equivalent, inside five minutes literally.
The deluxe metal tubed Cox hand powered gun from Gardner is £69.99 at Johnson Ross if you google. Break your ****ing arm trying to gun out a kilo like everyone did for twenty five years. The other option was a noisy compressor. Fine in a unit/garage or the shed. Not fine in the house with er indoors or the neighbours.
That orange gun in the photo I paid a tenner more for. £80 I think it was. They are even cheaper on eBay now. Baitman's link they were like £70
That one gun in the photo has made me a lot of money using it all day, everyday in a work environment.
For a home roller, they are simply the best thing ever since sliced bread.
They are far better than my old Milwaukee caulking gun. Monstrously better than the £369 cox lithium equivalent. Even if we broke one every couple of months at work, I would still purchase more. But we can't break them.
We broke a £369 Cox equivalent, inside five minutes literally.
The top photo is the Cox lithium.
The bottom photo is my original Milwaukee. I had to adapt that myself. That was always kept top secret and never shown to anyone haha.
As you can see Baitman, that was able to use the plastic collars and your nozzle insert. No problem for many, many years. That's why I put the same attachments straight onto the orange gun the moment I got it. The Cox gun comes with plastic attachments and a flimsy plastic tube too.
The orange Chinese gun you have, has far more torque than both of those two though. If you look at a witches hat, it has no flat surface to receive the pressure of the gun. The insert nozzles do have a flat surface to collect that pressure, that's why they eventually go with a bang I think.
The bottom photo is my original Milwaukee. I had to adapt that myself. That was always kept top secret and never shown to anyone haha.
As you can see Baitman, that was able to use the plastic collars and your nozzle insert. No problem for many, many years. That's why I put the same attachments straight onto the orange gun the moment I got it. The Cox gun comes with plastic attachments and a flimsy plastic tube too.
The orange Chinese gun you have, has far more torque than both of those two though. If you look at a witches hat, it has no flat surface to receive the pressure of the gun. The insert nozzles do have a flat surface to collect that pressure, that's why they eventually go with a bang I think.
In reply to Post #18
Until I move house and get a bait shed, I'm only planning on rolling for myself, if I get to the point where I wanna do more than 10kg a month I would get a 2kg air gun set up.. but for winter evenings doing 2kg a time the roughneck manual gun I have is on its limits of use (correction my wrist is )..;so thinking I could try up rating the collars etc.. retrofitting but one of the Chinese guns looks on cards
Until I move house and get a bait shed, I'm only planning on rolling for myself, if I get to the point where I wanna do more than 10kg a month I would get a 2kg air gun set up.. but for winter evenings doing 2kg a time the roughneck manual gun I have is on its limits of use (correction my wrist is )..;so thinking I could try up rating the collars etc.. retrofitting but one of the Chinese guns looks on cards
In reply to Post #18
I do use the witches hats when doing a bigger mix.
I only use the Gardner insert when doing smaller quantities.
I only have the pressure set at about half way as that's powerful enough.
I do use the witches hats when doing a bigger mix.
I only use the Gardner insert when doing smaller quantities.
I only have the pressure set at about half way as that's powerful enough.
In reply to Post #20
Gardner insert vs witches hat
Why is one better than the other?
Gardner insert vs witches hat
Why is one better than the other?
In reply to Post #21
If I'm only doing a one or two egger then so much is left in the witches hat that I have to then hand roll into a sausage to then roll out.
The Gardner nozzles don't trap so much paste at the end of the gun.
The Gardner also allows me to slot in a smaller nozzle to do some dumbells.
If I'm doing a 6-12 egger then I'd use the witches hat nozzles.
I only have very limited work top space so I can't gun out too much in one push.
If I'm only doing a one or two egger then so much is left in the witches hat that I have to then hand roll into a sausage to then roll out.
The Gardner nozzles don't trap so much paste at the end of the gun.
The Gardner also allows me to slot in a smaller nozzle to do some dumbells.
If I'm doing a 6-12 egger then I'd use the witches hat nozzles.
I only have very limited work top space so I can't gun out too much in one push.
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Honestly, I am not preaching to you. I used exactly what you are using, for similar reasons until I learned different, the hard way. I continued after the first one blew up too, and got more. I have a small bag of plastic Cox/Gardner bits if you want them. Multiple inserts and collars all brand new. When the second nozzle insert blew up, it was clear to me they can't be used on that gun without playing Russian roulette.
I am really talking to everyone else now anyway, but I am so glad you posted your photo and we are speaking about it, because it puts that important information 'out there'. I am just making it crystal clear for anyone reading this that purchased/s an orange gun off my recommendation, I'd strongly recommend don't under any circumstances put your Cox plastic collars or those plastic Gardner nozzle inserts from your handguns on it. Only because it's really dangerous when they eventually blow up. If someone cops it when it blows, it will hurt someone very badly indeed. Because I posted the gun up in the first place, it is kinda imperative that I make that really clear. I smashed a couple of plates and put a big dent in the wall. Not much. It could have been fatal if it had hit anyone in the head, both times the insert holder blew up. They seperate at the base of the insert. A weightly lump of ABS plastic comes off the end of the gun at a crazy speed. The plastic collar was not so bad, but still went with a real bang. The gun comes with metal collars and witches hats. Extra witches hats are 3 for a fiver on fleabay delivered. Or as Dickweed mentioned, Screwfix. They are all a standard size which fits the gun.
Honestly, I am not preaching to you. I used exactly what you are using, for similar reasons until I learned different, the hard way. I continued after the first one blew up too, and got more. I have a small bag of plastic Cox/Gardner bits if you want them. Multiple inserts and collars all brand new. When the second nozzle insert blew up, it was clear to me they can't be used on that gun without playing Russian roulette.
I am really talking to everyone else now anyway, but I am so glad you posted your photo and we are speaking about it, because it puts that important information 'out there'. I am just making it crystal clear for anyone reading this that purchased/s an orange gun off my recommendation, I'd strongly recommend don't under any circumstances put your Cox plastic collars or those plastic Gardner nozzle inserts from your handguns on it. Only because it's really dangerous when they eventually blow up. If someone cops it when it blows, it will hurt someone very badly indeed. Because I posted the gun up in the first place, it is kinda imperative that I make that really clear. I smashed a couple of plates and put a big dent in the wall. Not much. It could have been fatal if it had hit anyone in the head, both times the insert holder blew up. They seperate at the base of the insert. A weightly lump of ABS plastic comes off the end of the gun at a crazy speed. The plastic collar was not so bad, but still went with a real bang. The gun comes with metal collars and witches hats. Extra witches hats are 3 for a fiver on fleabay delivered. Or as Dickweed mentioned, Screwfix. They are all a standard size which fits the gun.
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