I`m looking for reccomendations for a mono line that would be best if i need to fish long range in snaggy waters.
So far been using Shimano Technium Black at 0.31 and it`s good (it`s really strong - i`ve pulled branches out of the water with it) but it does coil up a lot..
I had a look at the Synchro XT Loaded and Fox Exocet (both at 0.30-0.31mm options) as they are rated as good casting lines, but i can also go back to the Technium as well.
So far been using Shimano Technium Black at 0.31 and it`s good (it`s really strong - i`ve pulled branches out of the water with it) but it does coil up a lot..
I had a look at the Synchro XT Loaded and Fox Exocet (both at 0.30-0.31mm options) as they are rated as good casting lines, but i can also go back to the Technium as well.
In reply to Post #1
Gardner Hydro tuff is decent
Gardner Hydro tuff is decent
In reply to Post #2
Gerry, I think it a little strange that you should be so strongly recommending a line that you haven't even used
I have seen you mention it on here and also of the barbel forum as some new wonder line... a possible rebirth of Catana.
You're just going off a recommendation by a new member called Mike Hunt
with only three posts...
Gerry, I think it a little strange that you should be so strongly recommending a line that you haven't even used
I have seen you mention it on here and also of the barbel forum as some new wonder line... a possible rebirth of Catana.
You're just going off a recommendation by a new member called Mike Hunt
with only three posts...
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Mmmmm your making a lot of assumption's TRY getting your acts right before gobbing off
MAYBE you dont know ??
but its not that new its been out quite a while and 2 good friends of mine have been using it for a long time one has had Two very successful trips this summer one in Italy and one in France where he said Its just like having Catana back and he got it just in time as his Shimano Technium Black needed replacing
then the other mate said virtually the same thing its just like Catana and if you bother reading the forum you will see a couple of forum members singing its praises that have been using it
and yes OF COURSE YOU KNOW I havent used it as Im terminally ill and now disabled so I cant ****ing use it you **** !
but it wont stop me TRYING to help people get the best buy for their money so do me a favour and go **** yourself
ANYONE that knows me knows I wont recommend anything that I havent used normally and I dont recommend rubbish but now I am forced to rely on personal friends whos opinions I can count on
Mmmmm your making a lot of assumption's TRY getting your acts right before gobbing off
MAYBE you dont know ??
but its not that new its been out quite a while and 2 good friends of mine have been using it for a long time one has had Two very successful trips this summer one in Italy and one in France where he said Its just like having Catana back and he got it just in time as his Shimano Technium Black needed replacing
then the other mate said virtually the same thing its just like Catana and if you bother reading the forum you will see a couple of forum members singing its praises that have been using it
and yes OF COURSE YOU KNOW I havent used it as Im terminally ill and now disabled so I cant ****ing use it you **** !
but it wont stop me TRYING to help people get the best buy for their money so do me a favour and go **** yourself
ANYONE that knows me knows I wont recommend anything that I havent used normally and I dont recommend rubbish but now I am forced to rely on personal friends whos opinions I can count on
In reply to Post #5
There's really no need for going off on one like that.
There's really no need for going off on one like that.
In reply to Post #6
in your opinion not in mine
You're just going off a recommendation by a new member called Mike Hunt with only three posts..
thats total bullshine you cheeky bstd
in your opinion not in mine
You're just going off a recommendation by a new member called Mike Hunt with only three posts..
thats total bullshine you cheeky bstd
In reply to Post #1
P Line Extrusion.
P Line Extrusion.
In reply to Post #8
What BS did you get mate?
I got some and found it lighter(thinner than stated BS) and coily off the spool (it came on) .
Crazy as it sounds I still want to use it (in higher BS) - low stretch and seems really supple. I'd imagine it casts well looking at it.
What BS did you get mate?
I got some and found it lighter(thinner than stated BS) and coily off the spool (it came on) .
Crazy as it sounds I still want to use it (in higher BS) - low stretch and seems really supple. I'd imagine it casts well looking at it.
In reply to Post #9
The. 35m I think from memory. 21lb BS. I used to be a big fan of Hydrotuff, bit this stuff is better.
The. 35m I think from memory. 21lb BS. I used to be a big fan of Hydrotuff, bit this stuff is better.
In reply to Post #6
😂 don't bite mate... same old ***** on this forum you won't win he's always right 👍🏻 just read all the other threads where people have questioned him.. they all get the same kind of abusive response 😉.......................incoming 😭
😂 don't bite mate... same old ***** on this forum you won't win he's always right 👍🏻 just read all the other threads where people have questioned him.. they all get the same kind of abusive response 😉.......................incoming 😭
In reply to Post #10
Yeah, I got the 15lb version which is stated 0.35 on the tin.
Going by a beady eye and other .35 monos, looks more like 0.34 or even lower to me - I woudn't wanna go too mad with it.
Yeah, I got the 15lb version which is stated 0.35 on the tin.
Going by a beady eye and other .35 monos, looks more like 0.34 or even lower to me - I woudn't wanna go too mad with it.
Thanks for the replies guys. Anyone used the Exocet from Fox on 12lb - is it any good?
Pretty much any thin casting line (0.30 - forget the lb rating) is going to be awful for any snaggy water and will break easily.
You want to use the thickest line possible that still allows you to get to where you want to fish. If you can't reach it using 0.40 + sized line then either get better rods or don't fish at that distance as you'll just be getting cut off all the time leaving fish trailing you rigs and line in the lake.
There's no such thing as a highly abrasion resistant 0.30 line. Thickest line possible👍
What distances do you need to hit?
You want to use the thickest line possible that still allows you to get to where you want to fish. If you can't reach it using 0.40 + sized line then either get better rods or don't fish at that distance as you'll just be getting cut off all the time leaving fish trailing you rigs and line in the lake.
There's no such thing as a highly abrasion resistant 0.30 line. Thickest line possible👍
What distances do you need to hit?
Roughly around 120 yards. I`m using Greys Aiircurve 3.25lb at 12ft with 3.5 oz leads
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How many wraps are you doing?
How many wraps are you doing?
Between 27 and 32 depends on the swim
What do you mean by snaggy and where in the lake are the snags?
Sounds like a job for braid really.
Sounds like a job for braid really.
As Gerry said, Bulletproof. I spooled up with it the other day and have done a session with it, I have to agree with him, reckon it's the return of Catana. I got the 0.35 15lb, says it good up to a 4.5oz lead.
In reply to Post #17
Well, I'd guess that 27-32 wraps with 12ft 3.25 rods was pretty much a struggle with anything other than thin tapered mono and you must have a leader as it'll be a matter of time till you crack off otherwise. If you want strong line at those distances you'll need serious distance rods for a start and it's 'snaggy'? 0.30 line is no good at all no matter what the manufacturer claims.
Look at tackle box line tests for actual bs of lines.
Well, I'd guess that 27-32 wraps with 12ft 3.25 rods was pretty much a struggle with anything other than thin tapered mono and you must have a leader as it'll be a matter of time till you crack off otherwise. If you want strong line at those distances you'll need serious distance rods for a start and it's 'snaggy'? 0.30 line is no good at all no matter what the manufacturer claims.
Look at tackle box line tests for actual bs of lines.
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Any coincidence that Solar have used a Catana blade in the advert??
Any coincidence that Solar have used a Catana blade in the advert??
In reply to Post #19
Yes, i always use a braided schock leader to prevent crack-offs and thinner line to achieve the distance. I will most likely go with the Solar one or spool up the Technium again
Yes, i always use a braided schock leader to prevent crack-offs and thinner line to achieve the distance. I will most likely go with the Solar one or spool up the Technium again
In reply to Post #22
One more thing - do you think that 1000m 0.31 will be enough to spool on 3xShimano XTD14000 with the reducers - 10000 maybe? or 3500
One more thing - do you think that 1000m 0.31 will be enough to spool on 3xShimano XTD14000 with the reducers - 10000 maybe? or 3500
In reply to Post #19
I had a look at the 15lb yesterday and if anything it felt even nicer than Catana.
I had a look at the 15lb yesterday and if anything it felt even nicer than Catana.
What's the colour like on this stuff ? Any good for clear water
In reply to Post #25
I would say fractionally lighter than Catana. One of those colours that will blend in nicely with any background.
I would say fractionally lighter than Catana. One of those colours that will blend in nicely with any background.
In reply to Post #23
@hranow
Personally for normal fishing in this country unless your boating out a long way on a big pit I see Zero point in putting more than 250yards on a reel so I just use a line counter to load the 250 and the required backing line
so loads 3 reels and 250 spare if the worst should happen and I needed to respool one
and on my river Trent barbel fishing 150 yards is plenty but I put 200 but thats really overkill
@hranow
Personally for normal fishing in this country unless your boating out a long way on a big pit I see Zero point in putting more than 250yards on a reel so I just use a line counter to load the 250 and the required backing line
so loads 3 reels and 250 spare if the worst should happen and I needed to respool one
and on my river Trent barbel fishing 150 yards is plenty but I put 200 but thats really overkill
In reply to Post #27
If this is better than ESP Syncro I think I will have to give it a try
If this is better than ESP Syncro I think I will have to give it a try
In reply to Post #28
not sure what Rob ((post 19 ))
was using before might have been ESP he is normally switched on the best worth asking him as he could be the 3rd person to switch and find it better
not sure what Rob ((post 19 ))
was using before might have been ESP he is normally switched on the best worth asking him as he could be the 3rd person to switch and find it better
In reply to Post #28
Forget Synchro, if it's better than CM90 then I'm all for it.
Forget Synchro, if it's better than CM90 then I'm all for it.
In reply to Post #29
Gerry, woudn't their 'Mile High' be more suitable for most waters, fishing long range do you know?
Gerry, woudn't their 'Mile High' be more suitable for most waters, fishing long range do you know?
In reply to Post #31
IMHO nope no way
Catana was only available to 15lb .35mm broke over 20lb in the TB line tests
the 12lb .33 tested broke at over 18lb both lines cast really will sink fast too
and if as it certainly looks like Bulletproof is the same line but TIME will tell I now personally know 3 ex catana users that are all saying its the same line and at least one forum member post 19
IMHO nope no way
Catana was only available to 15lb .35mm broke over 20lb in the TB line tests
the 12lb .33 tested broke at over 18lb both lines cast really will sink fast too
and if as it certainly looks like Bulletproof is the same line but TIME will tell I now personally know 3 ex catana users that are all saying its the same line and at least one forum member post 19
In reply to Post #21
For the ranges you stated( 27/32 wraps) you won't need a shocker with appropriate line.
I regular fish up to 120+ with no shockleader on very weedy waters. Use a minimum of .35 up to .40 line. It's called level line casting. I'd go for the .39 bulletproof.
You can whack out casts that distance with that diameter line. Just practice smooth casts.
You dont have to take my word for it... watch the Terry Edmonds level mine casting video on YouTube. He does, as do friends of mine put leads 140 yards with no shockleader.
I hope this helps.
For the ranges you stated( 27/32 wraps) you won't need a shocker with appropriate line.
I regular fish up to 120+ with no shockleader on very weedy waters. Use a minimum of .35 up to .40 line. It's called level line casting. I'd go for the .39 bulletproof.
You can whack out casts that distance with that diameter line. Just practice smooth casts.
You dont have to take my word for it... watch the Terry Edmonds level mine casting video on YouTube. He does, as do friends of mine put leads 140 yards with no shockleader.
I hope this helps.
In reply to Post #33
what size lead.you using with. 35/.40
what size lead.you using with. 35/.40
In reply to Post #5
Bang out of order OG........no need for reply's like that........
To the OP.......long Chuck is a quality line and tuff as old boots......
Bang out of order OG........no need for reply's like that........
To the OP.......long Chuck is a quality line and tuff as old boots......
In reply to Post #32
So the Bulletproof is also good for casting as well? I'm more or less decided on giving it a try - just need to place an order
So the Bulletproof is also good for casting as well? I'm more or less decided on giving it a try - just need to place an order
In reply to Post #35
Gets very twisy \ crinkley.
Gets very twisy \ crinkley.
In reply to Post #37
I haven't found that to be the case?
I haven't found that to be the case?
In reply to Post #38
I think he may be referring to OG
I think he may be referring to OG
In reply to Post #39
In reply to Post #34
Depends. Mostly 4oz tournament distance lead.
Depends. Mostly 4oz tournament distance lead.
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