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Decent helicopter tubing set up without heli-safe (16 posts / 1,720 views)
jamesf1134 jamesf1134
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Post #1 9 Oct 2023 23:11
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I usually use leadcore to braid on a helicopter set up, mega strong, obviously get good drops.

I'd like to fish the same way, but braid and leader bans?

Is naked on fluoro the only way, I'm not keen on hell safe system, any advice much appreciated.
carpstar40 carpstar40
Posts: 3,706
Post #2 10 Oct 2023 07:33
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In reply to Post #1
HERE Although I haven't used it just a google not sure how easy the bead ejects or if the tubing would come away from the tulip bead first.
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Belch Belch
MODERATORMOD
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Post #3 10 Oct 2023 12:40
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In reply to Post #1
helisafe is a faff - just use a decent buffer sleeve and a C clip connection to the lead based on the weight / distance your flinging . .
carpy09 carpy09
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Post #5 10 Oct 2023 14:39
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In reply to Post #2
Problem with them Korda tubing heli bead kits I found it squashes the tubing over time so should you want to then put that length of tubing on fresh line it won't thread on
carp4steve carp4steve
Posts: 131
Post #6 11 Oct 2023 16:35
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To stop the tubing coming out of the buffer bead, a tiny blob of superglue, and instead of a bead up the line mold some putty just big enough so the swivel can't pass.
kells kells
Posts: 6,020
Post #7 12 Oct 2023 09:38
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Nash do a tungsten tubing bead. I've used it with both Nash and Korda tubing. As a top bead it grips well enough to not give on the cast. But will also give if a fish becomes tethered. The fashion at the moment is to loose the lead on these helicopter setups. But I've found retaing the lead will help a fish shed the lead and tubing a lot easier.
55s 55s
Posts: 707
Post #8 12 Oct 2023 10:42
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In reply to Post #7
100% agree, on naked or tubing you need the lead as hold point for hook link to slide off.
jamesf1134 jamesf1134
Posts: 360
Post #9 12 Oct 2023 20:43
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Thanks chaps
nickfisherman
Posts: 342
Post #10 12 Oct 2023 22:22
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In reply to Post #1
You can set the heli safe to not drop the lead if that's what puts you off.
jamesf1134 jamesf1134
Posts: 360
Post #11 12 Oct 2023 22:43
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In reply to Post #10
I realise you can keep it on, just didn't know if there was a safe tubing option like the system without having to fish with the actual helicopter safe.
kells kells
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Post #12 13 Oct 2023 07:24
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In reply to Post #11
As long as the hook length can slide of the tubing in the event of a breakage and keeping the lead on will help you do that. Then you've made it as safe as you possibly can.
jamesf1134 jamesf1134
Posts: 360
Post #13 13 Oct 2023 13:29
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In reply to Post #12
That was established, I've never fished dropping the lead from a helicopter set up, I was wondering if there was a set up like it, with the witches hat etc that grips the tubing better from the lead end without all the need for the heli-safe etc thanks
zinno
Posts: 1,381
Post #14 14 Oct 2023 12:06
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Nash tube tool (if you can find them) and you can easily make them yourself

Edit: Product nr: Nash T8235
kells kells
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Post #15 14 Oct 2023 13:49
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In reply to Post #13
I think your always going to get the issue with the tubing coming away from the lead sleeve. But as already been mentioned superglue might help.
Muddy_Hi-Lux Muddy_Hi-Lux
Posts: 225
Post #16 16 Oct 2023 15:37
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In reply to Post #7
Ideally the lead should stay attached, as that needs to snag up to allow the hook length swivel and top bead to pull off, in the event of line breakage.
Muddy_Hi-Lux Muddy_Hi-Lux
Posts: 225
Post #17 16 Oct 2023 15:40
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In reply to Post #15
I think I would try a contact adhesive as opposed to superglue, which becomes brittle.

Could be worth trying the superglue and bicarb trick though.
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