Whats the difference between the nd1 smart boat and the nd2 and which is the better one and is there a better boat at this price range?
In reply to Post #1
ND2 is the better boat by a distance pal. Bigger and more features available.
There is a very good review on here about one in the reviews section. Also a very good facebook page.
ND2 is the better boat by a distance pal. Bigger and more features available.
There is a very good review on here about one in the reviews section. Also a very good facebook page.
In reply to Post #2
Cheers. The nd2 is sold out and it seems to be half the price of the nd1 so thought the nd1 must be better. The nd2 does look better from the photos.
Cheers. The nd2 is sold out and it seems to be half the price of the nd1 so thought the nd1 must be better. The nd2 does look better from the photos.
In reply to Post #3
They generally sell them in batches mate, which usually sell out quite fast.
If you give them a follow on social media they generally post in advance of the sale date to say they will be putting them back up for sale.
I don't use mine in the uk, but would definitely recommend getting the GPS/auto pilot update once you get one.
They generally sell them in batches mate, which usually sell out quite fast.
If you give them a follow on social media they generally post in advance of the sale date to say they will be putting them back up for sale.
I don't use mine in the uk, but would definitely recommend getting the GPS/auto pilot update once you get one.
In reply to Post #4
Cheers 👍🏻
Cheers 👍🏻
In reply to Post #1
ND2 hands down
ND2 hands down
In reply to Post #6
Cheers. Are they reliable as a couple of friends have had a few nd items and they didnt last very long. Ive never owned anything that they make but the boat looks decent. I was going to get a bespoke bait boats pd33 but it seems total overkill for how much i will use it and its 3 times the price.
Cheers. Are they reliable as a couple of friends have had a few nd items and they didnt last very long. Ive never owned anything that they make but the boat looks decent. I was going to get a bespoke bait boats pd33 but it seems total overkill for how much i will use it and its 3 times the price.
In reply to Post #7
Just make sure you charge the battery and try it in the boat before you take it out, there been some duff ones. Also helps if you file a little groove in the rear of the door to allow leader or tubing to sit in or else the door can stick shut.
Edit; the boat and battery are posted separately.
Just make sure you charge the battery and try it in the boat before you take it out, there been some duff ones. Also helps if you file a little groove in the rear of the door to allow leader or tubing to sit in or else the door can stick shut.
Edit; the boat and battery are posted separately.
In reply to Post #1
nd2 is a great boat for the price, mine has been faultless. The only issue is now they ship with half the capacity battery as they used to, I bought an extra battery plus y connector which helps but I find a 48hr just about empties them.
nd2 is a great boat for the price, mine has been faultless. The only issue is now they ship with half the capacity battery as they used to, I bought an extra battery plus y connector which helps but I find a 48hr just about empties them.
In reply to Post #9
Someone on the nd2 group on fb put me onto a company that sells much bigger batteries that are designed for the nd2 so if i get one will get one of those and a bespoke angling supplies make for the nd2.
Someone on the nd2 group on fb put me onto a company that sells much bigger batteries that are designed for the nd2 so if i get one will get one of those and a bespoke angling supplies make for the nd2.
In reply to Post #9
Really how much did you use it? I've only got one set of batteries set up on mine and it was the one that came with it, I used it for 3 rods for 48hrs about 60 yards each time and it was still at 70% when I finished the session and they got sent out about 8/10 times each over the time I was there (resetting and had fish)
Really how much did you use it? I've only got one set of batteries set up on mine and it was the one that came with it, I used it for 3 rods for 48hrs about 60 yards each time and it was still at 70% when I finished the session and they got sent out about 8/10 times each over the time I was there (resetting and had fish)
In reply to Post #10
Al technologies
Brilliant batteries for all different bait boats made with decent Samsung and Panasonic cells no rubbish....
Worth it
Al technologies
Brilliant batteries for all different bait boats made with decent Samsung and Panasonic cells no rubbish....
Worth it
In reply to Post #12
Yes thats them 👍🏻
Yes thats them 👍🏻
In reply to Post #12
Yep very good battery packs, though Samsung did have their problems a few years back with their galaxy notes catching fire and leading to a massive recall they blamed it on their batteries. Panasonic also, no manufacturer is perfect.
The main point is lithium battery's do require looking after, keep them safe in a suitable fireproof container and don't let them get too cold. Alex @ Al provides some documentation in the box when you take receipt of his battery's .
Yep very good battery packs, though Samsung did have their problems a few years back with their galaxy notes catching fire and leading to a massive recall they blamed it on their batteries. Panasonic also, no manufacturer is perfect.
The main point is lithium battery's do require looking after, keep them safe in a suitable fireproof container and don't let them get too cold. Alex @ Al provides some documentation in the box when you take receipt of his battery's .
In reply to Post #14
All sold out at the minute 😞
All sold out at the minute 😞
He usually gets stock in pretty quick if you click on “notify me when available” you'll get an email from him.
In reply to Post #16
Yes just done that, cheers 👍🏻
Yes just done that, cheers 👍🏻
Just got a reply straight back. Coming in mid may. Great communications. He even said if i was going to france before them he would try and sort one out 👍🏻
In reply to Post #18
Anyone have a link to the batteries
Anyone have a link to the batteries
In reply to Post #19
www.altbatteries.co.uk is his website
www.altbatteries.co.uk is his website
In reply to Post #20
Good website. Just click on the boat you have and it brings up all the battery options.
Good website. Just click on the boat you have and it brings up all the battery options.
In reply to Post #11
Maybe mine was a duff battery, I use for 3 rods around 70-80 yards, maybe send out for each rod 4-5 times (resetting/catching) I find it makes a big difference to batt drain if there is chop on the water, ordered a 14ah from altechnologies last week so should be ok now
Maybe mine was a duff battery, I use for 3 rods around 70-80 yards, maybe send out for each rod 4-5 times (resetting/catching) I find it makes a big difference to batt drain if there is chop on the water, ordered a 14ah from altechnologies last week so should be ok now
In reply to Post #14
I think you might be referring to Lipo batteries.
Lithium Ion is more stable and these are the ones used 18650 cells
👍😉
I think you might be referring to Lipo batteries.
Lithium Ion is more stable and these are the ones used 18650 cells
👍😉
In reply to Post #23
No lithium's you still need to be careful as in the note Alex provides they are classified as dangerous goods.
I know lipos are worse
No lithium's you still need to be careful as in the note Alex provides they are classified as dangerous goods.
I know lipos are worse
In reply to Post #22
First 48hr session with the 14ah battery from al technologies and wow what a difference, sent out each rod 4 or 5 times and also a look around with the deeper on and left with 88% battery left, I Highly recommend
First 48hr session with the 14ah battery from al technologies and wow what a difference, sent out each rod 4 or 5 times and also a look around with the deeper on and left with 88% battery left, I Highly recommend
In reply to Post #6
Why do you think the nd2 is better? Seems that the nd1 would work out cheaper in the long run
Why do you think the nd2 is better? Seems that the nd1 would work out cheaper in the long run
In reply to Post #26
When the ND2 was due for release many people believed it would be an updated version and cost more than the current ND1 because that is what they are used to companies doing.
In effect what ND did was to release a completely different designed boat and more importantly a totally different way of marketing and selling it.
The ND2 was an entirely different boat in design and looks, bearing no real resemblance to its predecessor, which was rather garish with all its fancy lights and shiny plastic bits, looking like a dodgem car at a fun fair. Rather than buying a completely kitted out boat with GPS and autopilot they instead sold the boat for a much lower price point as a ‘basic boat' for half the price at around £550 rather than £900ish. At this price you get GPS which makes it a very serious contender in the bait boat market as at this price you get a hell of lot for your money. The next marketing strategy is if you want to make it more user friendly you can simply download the auto pilot from the app for £200. Of course the vast majority of buyers do this, it's virtually impossible not to. If you're on a tight budget you can buy the boat, use it and get used to it and then buy the autopilot later. They also did away with the spare onboard battery which is a cost saving but sold spare batteries as an extra if you felt the need for them. They also used mainly the same internal parts or parts from the same companies so minimal R&D costs. So ND1 came as a complete package for £900ish (from memory) and ND2 is £550 + 200 + 100 (spare batt) = £850, not that much difference but one of the few items where a MK2 is cheaper than a MK1. You can now get a Deeper fish/feature finder factory fitted as part of the modular approach.
They also release it in batches which creates a consumer demand. I haven't had a ND1 so don't know fully about the operating system but the ND2 app has been developed to be functional and upgradeable although they haven't always got it right first time.
Different boat design, different marketing strategy and different modular approach but same end result.
When the ND2 was due for release many people believed it would be an updated version and cost more than the current ND1 because that is what they are used to companies doing.
In effect what ND did was to release a completely different designed boat and more importantly a totally different way of marketing and selling it.
The ND2 was an entirely different boat in design and looks, bearing no real resemblance to its predecessor, which was rather garish with all its fancy lights and shiny plastic bits, looking like a dodgem car at a fun fair. Rather than buying a completely kitted out boat with GPS and autopilot they instead sold the boat for a much lower price point as a ‘basic boat' for half the price at around £550 rather than £900ish. At this price you get GPS which makes it a very serious contender in the bait boat market as at this price you get a hell of lot for your money. The next marketing strategy is if you want to make it more user friendly you can simply download the auto pilot from the app for £200. Of course the vast majority of buyers do this, it's virtually impossible not to. If you're on a tight budget you can buy the boat, use it and get used to it and then buy the autopilot later. They also did away with the spare onboard battery which is a cost saving but sold spare batteries as an extra if you felt the need for them. They also used mainly the same internal parts or parts from the same companies so minimal R&D costs. So ND1 came as a complete package for £900ish (from memory) and ND2 is £550 + 200 + 100 (spare batt) = £850, not that much difference but one of the few items where a MK2 is cheaper than a MK1. You can now get a Deeper fish/feature finder factory fitted as part of the modular approach.
They also release it in batches which creates a consumer demand. I haven't had a ND1 so don't know fully about the operating system but the ND2 app has been developed to be functional and upgradeable although they haven't always got it right first time.
Different boat design, different marketing strategy and different modular approach but same end result.
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