With the variety of bedchairs on the market nowadays can anybody suggest one that is preferable for side sleepers. Struggling to get a decent nights kip with my Solar SP C tech bedchair.
All well and good trying them in a shop for 5 mins and they seem to be 'the one' but that doesn't help when on the bank and finding out that they are not 'the one'. Thnx
All well and good trying them in a shop for 5 mins and they seem to be 'the one' but that doesn't help when on the bank and finding out that they are not 'the one'. Thnx
In reply to Post #1
Look at getting yourself an inflatable camping mattress it will improve the comfortable of the current bedchair . I use 2 of them under my sleeping bag on my current fox mk2 flatliner and never get back ache . I've Wasted a lot of money over the years buying and selling different bedchairs trying to find a comfortable one without success but for the last 4 years now have never felt the need to change bedchair since using inflatable mattress on my current one .
Look at getting yourself an inflatable camping mattress it will improve the comfortable of the current bedchair . I use 2 of them under my sleeping bag on my current fox mk2 flatliner and never get back ache . I've Wasted a lot of money over the years buying and selling different bedchairs trying to find a comfortable one without success but for the last 4 years now have never felt the need to change bedchair since using inflatable mattress on my current one .
In reply to Post #2
Totally agree with this... a SIM seems pretty much essential if you are a side sleeper on todays firmer beds. You also need to experiment with the level of air fill but once adjusted to your requirements you can say farewell to dead shoulders and aching hips
Totally agree with this... a SIM seems pretty much essential if you are a side sleeper on todays firmer beds. You also need to experiment with the level of air fill but once adjusted to your requirements you can say farewell to dead shoulders and aching hips
In reply to Post #1
Before you start messing about changing beds trying to find a comfortable one.
Have you tried unlacing the one you've already got?
I do this on all of mine now because like you I'm a side sleeper and yes they are all too hard these days.
Try unlacing and missing out one pair of eyelets where your shoulder would be and another where your hip will be.
This gives you a lot more cord to play around with and loosen off if required.
Then buy a cheap sim from go outdoors and you can then play around to get the bed absolutely spot on
Before you start messing about changing beds trying to find a comfortable one.
Have you tried unlacing the one you've already got?
I do this on all of mine now because like you I'm a side sleeper and yes they are all too hard these days.
Try unlacing and missing out one pair of eyelets where your shoulder would be and another where your hip will be.
This gives you a lot more cord to play around with and loosen off if required.
Then buy a cheap sim from go outdoors and you can then play around to get the bed absolutely spot on
In reply to Post #4
Not an option on the Solar as the cord is only at the feet and head ends. Its the middle on these that has very little if any give. Tried a sim with little improvement tbh
Not an option on the Solar as the cord is only at the feet and head ends. Its the middle on these that has very little if any give. Tried a sim with little improvement tbh
Look for a bedchair with a High density foam matrass i'm also a side sleeper and have the Fox duralite very happy with it, Trakker also have a few beds with a High density foam mattras .
Imo if you need a sim you bought the wrong bedchair
Imo if you need a sim you bought the wrong bedchair
In reply to Post #6
Sim is not just for comfort,it also stops cold air coming up through the bottom of the bed.The only thing the duralite has going for it is its light
Sim is not just for comfort,it also stops cold air coming up through the bottom of the bed.The only thing the duralite has going for it is its light
In reply to Post #1
SIMs are def 'an' answer - you just need to play with the inflate level.
ALL bedchairs are uncomfortable IMO and I've been through many in the futile search for bedchair nirvhana - fact is I don't think it exists; especially as you get older / achier / less flexible. I sleep on both my back and side and think the new flat and rigid bedchairs are def more comfy than the old saggy nash indulgence varieties however anyone that says its as comfy as their mattress at home is either talking complete sh*te or has a dreadful mattress . . .
Have settled on the Wychwood Tactical Xs (standard and compact) for some time now (with SIMs) but primarily for the weight saving - was looking at SP CTechs in my continued quest however I now may not bother!
SIMs are def 'an' answer - you just need to play with the inflate level.
ALL bedchairs are uncomfortable IMO and I've been through many in the futile search for bedchair nirvhana - fact is I don't think it exists; especially as you get older / achier / less flexible. I sleep on both my back and side and think the new flat and rigid bedchairs are def more comfy than the old saggy nash indulgence varieties however anyone that says its as comfy as their mattress at home is either talking complete sh*te or has a dreadful mattress . . .
Have settled on the Wychwood Tactical Xs (standard and compact) for some time now (with SIMs) but primarily for the weight saving - was looking at SP CTechs in my continued quest however I now may not bother!
In reply to Post #1
Sonic axs duralloy level bed with 5cm SIM currently doing the business for me. Different leg setup to most beds but it works. Light and comfy. I'm a side sleeper who has suffered with a bad back in the past but no more😁
Daz
Sonic axs duralloy level bed with 5cm SIM currently doing the business for me. Different leg setup to most beds but it works. Light and comfy. I'm a side sleeper who has suffered with a bad back in the past but no more😁
Daz
In reply to Post #6
A sim will make any bedchair more comfy.
A sim will make any bedchair more comfy.
Oh my god - i am a bed chair bore (as well as many other things)
I wanted something light (I have a heavy one for occasional longer trips)
So took my old nash sleep system and. had the zip on bag (1 layer only) recovered (pathetic)
Had a strap made and took out the elastics
Took out the mattress ridiculous 2inch fat bloke squashed foam
Replaced this with snugpak sim and then had that cover made
Ripped off the head end legs and replaced with a single leg
Its comfy enough for overnighters, weighs less than a mini metro and I doubt it cost me more than a small semi detached in Middlesorough - I need to get out more
I wanted something light (I have a heavy one for occasional longer trips)
So took my old nash sleep system and. had the zip on bag (1 layer only) recovered (pathetic)
Had a strap made and took out the elastics
Took out the mattress ridiculous 2inch fat bloke squashed foam
Replaced this with snugpak sim and then had that cover made
Ripped off the head end legs and replaced with a single leg
Its comfy enough for overnighters, weighs less than a mini metro and I doubt it cost me more than a small semi detached in Middlesorough - I need to get out more
In reply to Post #11
I had straps on two of my old indulgence tanks; alleviated but didn't resolve the sagging - indulgence my arse
I had straps on two of my old indulgence tanks; alleviated but didn't resolve the sagging - indulgence my arse
I'm a side sleeper too...
I haven't changed or messed around with lots of bedchairs ,but I have a good amount of sleep time using small tents n tarps anyway ...for me the finest SIM I have used or works for me is the Theremarest neo air venture,its a pure quick blow version,not self inflating, it's good ..and I can get off my bedchair pretty rapid using it as well..
I did rate the multimats ,pure SIM,sadly I can't ,I had three of them on the trot ,all lost air and deflated, other than that, were really comfy,...oh and customer service wasn't good either..
I haven't changed or messed around with lots of bedchairs ,but I have a good amount of sleep time using small tents n tarps anyway ...for me the finest SIM I have used or works for me is the Theremarest neo air venture,its a pure quick blow version,not self inflating, it's good ..and I can get off my bedchair pretty rapid using it as well..
I did rate the multimats ,pure SIM,sadly I can't ,I had three of them on the trot ,all lost air and deflated, other than that, were really comfy,...oh and customer service wasn't good either..
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Im a side sleeper. And sick of the size and weight of my comfy wide indulgence
I bought a standard whycwood tactical.
It's a cheap.and **** bed. But it's wide enough and very light.
It's rock hard. Awful.
Bought a Helio sim and it's a.miracle. indulgence level comfort back
And hardly any more weight.
Im a side sleeper. And sick of the size and weight of my comfy wide indulgence
I bought a standard whycwood tactical.
It's a cheap.and **** bed. But it's wide enough and very light.
It's rock hard. Awful.
Bought a Helio sim and it's a.miracle. indulgence level comfort back
And hardly any more weight.
In reply to Post #7
i have never felt cold through my duralite mattress.and i also fish in freezing temperatures, with my previous bedchair: Trakker oval levelite tail never felt cold through the mattress either,
i have never felt cold through my duralite mattress.and i also fish in freezing temperatures, with my previous bedchair: Trakker oval levelite tail never felt cold through the mattress either,
In reply to Post #6
YOU SAID Imo if you need a sim you bought the wrong bedchair
Well IMO there is not a bedchair thats made that cant be improved with comfort and insulation with a correct quality SIM
((not an air mattress or an over inflated SIM ))
so we will have to agree to disagree
YOU SAID Imo if you need a sim you bought the wrong bedchair
Well IMO there is not a bedchair thats made that cant be improved with comfort and insulation with a correct quality SIM
((not an air mattress or an over inflated SIM ))
so we will have to agree to disagree
In reply to Post #16
Well I 100% agree 👍
Well I 100% agree 👍
In reply to Post #16
Bought 14 bedchairs in total the last 2 years (long live the 30 days money back guarantee) 2 off them were good for my back and side so I imagine most who buy a bedchair that it is not suitable for their body and solve this with a sim
Bought 14 bedchairs in total the last 2 years (long live the 30 days money back guarantee) 2 off them were good for my back and side so I imagine most who buy a bedchair that it is not suitable for their body and solve this with a sim
I'm a side sleeper and go the opposite way of having a bed that has give and prefer a hard flat bed. During Summer I will just use a normal fishing bed as I can find them bearable for short nights.
But soon as the long Winter nights kick in, my preference is to use an army surplus cot style bed. I have 5 of them and my best one is an American army one that I bought in the 80's and used it for years both for fishing and whilst in the army. Only problem with it though is the legs are not adjustable so I just take a few wooden blocks to level it up with. Once laid on it, its absolute bliss for spending 12+ hours on.
With just a foam roll mat they are comfortable and a SIM makes them just a bit better but either keeps the cold out from below in the Winter months. They are perfectly flat which is what makes them comfortable. One of the problems with a fishing style bed is their are 3 main sections, head end, middle and leg end and to get them comfortable, you have to balance all 3 sections. Its no good having a sagging middle if the head end and leg end are too firm and vice versa or other combinations, before long you end up with knees, hips, back and shoulders aching with not having the body in alignment.
One of the projects that I was going to do with one of my fishing beds to firm it up was to remove its cover and replace it with 3 sections of 12mm ply, fasten some battens onto the sections of ply underneath to hold it in place on top of the framework of the bed. And then in use just put my SIM on top.
Will it work, it should, when I go away in the car for a few days, I have a bed made out of a 6' length of 12mm ply that fits down the passenger side with the rear seats collapsed and is supported by the passenger seat folded down and a plywood box I made to support the foot end and the wheel arch also supports it. When I go away, I can sleep for hours on it in comfort so there should be no reason it would not work for fishing. The only difference would be what supports it and that would make no difference to comfort.
But soon as the long Winter nights kick in, my preference is to use an army surplus cot style bed. I have 5 of them and my best one is an American army one that I bought in the 80's and used it for years both for fishing and whilst in the army. Only problem with it though is the legs are not adjustable so I just take a few wooden blocks to level it up with. Once laid on it, its absolute bliss for spending 12+ hours on.
With just a foam roll mat they are comfortable and a SIM makes them just a bit better but either keeps the cold out from below in the Winter months. They are perfectly flat which is what makes them comfortable. One of the problems with a fishing style bed is their are 3 main sections, head end, middle and leg end and to get them comfortable, you have to balance all 3 sections. Its no good having a sagging middle if the head end and leg end are too firm and vice versa or other combinations, before long you end up with knees, hips, back and shoulders aching with not having the body in alignment.
One of the projects that I was going to do with one of my fishing beds to firm it up was to remove its cover and replace it with 3 sections of 12mm ply, fasten some battens onto the sections of ply underneath to hold it in place on top of the framework of the bed. And then in use just put my SIM on top.
Will it work, it should, when I go away in the car for a few days, I have a bed made out of a 6' length of 12mm ply that fits down the passenger side with the rear seats collapsed and is supported by the passenger seat folded down and a plywood box I made to support the foot end and the wheel arch also supports it. When I go away, I can sleep for hours on it in comfort so there should be no reason it would not work for fishing. The only difference would be what supports it and that would make no difference to comfort.
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In reply to Post #6
I am side sleeper and prefer a firmer bed
I use a SIM on my JRC xlite level bed it's very comfy for me a
With the added bonus if being a light bed for transporting around 👍
I am side sleeper and prefer a firmer bed
I use a SIM on my JRC xlite level bed it's very comfy for me a
With the added bonus if being a light bed for transporting around 👍
In reply to Post #19
One of the projects that I was going to do with one of my fishing beds to firm it up was to remove its cover and replace it with 3 sections of 12mm ply, fasten some battens onto the sections of ply underneath to hold it in place on top of the framework of the bed. And then in use just put my SIM on top
I quickly went from this is the most bonkers post I've read to - that's actually where every bedchair is going wrong. All beds start on a firm base, so elastics, webbing or even the old lafuma springs are never going to cut it. I think the ply would weigh a fair bit but I've gone from ‘lunatic' to you're well on the right lines. Well played
One of the projects that I was going to do with one of my fishing beds to firm it up was to remove its cover and replace it with 3 sections of 12mm ply, fasten some battens onto the sections of ply underneath to hold it in place on top of the framework of the bed. And then in use just put my SIM on top
I quickly went from this is the most bonkers post I've read to - that's actually where every bedchair is going wrong. All beds start on a firm base, so elastics, webbing or even the old lafuma springs are never going to cut it. I think the ply would weigh a fair bit but I've gone from ‘lunatic' to you're well on the right lines. Well played
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>>>>All beds start on a firm base, so elastics, webbing or even the old lafuma springs are never going to cut it.<<<
I even find the old bog standard camping bed that rolls up and has four legs far better than any fishing bed. And mainly because it has a flat base and is level and with a SIM on, very comfortable. It would be the ideal bed for me for fishing, not only for the comfort but for its size but sadly I find them too low for fishing and would not want rats and mice running all over me on a night as your almost sleeping on the floor so I stick to just using one when I am camping in a tent.
I don't think a 6' by approx 3' long length of ply that heavy, the piece I use now for in the car is not that heavy. Plus with todays fishing beds and the hinges designed to keep your bulky sleeping bag and a SIM in, there is plenty of room for the bed to fold up with it still inside, but would probably have to remove the sleeping bag and I never leave the SIM in in case it gets trapped in a hinge and punctured etc.
If I recall, the old type of fishing bed with the same piece of elastic that went round the framework more comfortable as over time, it leveled itself out were to sag. Now you have 3 pieces of elastic and all need tightening to match.
>>>>All beds start on a firm base, so elastics, webbing or even the old lafuma springs are never going to cut it.<<<
I even find the old bog standard camping bed that rolls up and has four legs far better than any fishing bed. And mainly because it has a flat base and is level and with a SIM on, very comfortable. It would be the ideal bed for me for fishing, not only for the comfort but for its size but sadly I find them too low for fishing and would not want rats and mice running all over me on a night as your almost sleeping on the floor so I stick to just using one when I am camping in a tent.
I don't think a 6' by approx 3' long length of ply that heavy, the piece I use now for in the car is not that heavy. Plus with todays fishing beds and the hinges designed to keep your bulky sleeping bag and a SIM in, there is plenty of room for the bed to fold up with it still inside, but would probably have to remove the sleeping bag and I never leave the SIM in in case it gets trapped in a hinge and punctured etc.
If I recall, the old type of fishing bed with the same piece of elastic that went round the framework more comfortable as over time, it leveled itself out were to sag. Now you have 3 pieces of elastic and all need tightening to match.
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