Enjoying the thread on uncaught carp got me thinking about Redmire in the early days . What was the feeling back then and now as to what the pool held ? Were the biggest carp caught or were there fish that remained uncaught , be interesting to here people thoughts , thanks .
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I absolutely loved this place ever since I was a kid all ways dreamed of the monsters that were in there,my life ambition was to fish it and I did in 2011 I can say I've done it now I don't care if it doesn't hold anything of size anymore it's redmire,even though I blanked as it was January.
On the big fish not wasn't there a story of a black mirror or a big uncaught fish in there about 8 years ago before they had to do all the work on the pool or do people think it was publicity to keep an interest in it.
I absolutely loved this place ever since I was a kid all ways dreamed of the monsters that were in there,my life ambition was to fish it and I did in 2011 I can say I've done it now I don't care if it doesn't hold anything of size anymore it's redmire,even though I blanked as it was January.
On the big fish not wasn't there a story of a black mirror or a big uncaught fish in there about 8 years ago before they had to do all the work on the pool or do people think it was publicity to keep an interest in it.
July 1958
Monster in the weed pics by Eddie Price..
Monster in the weed pics by Eddie Price..
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Mate i fished it 5 years on the run 3 weeks per year 2010-2015 the place was so run down and the biggest fish was low 20 so yes it was rubbish the stock had been compromised. I t had also been drained and de silted in the early 2000s .The people running it and you all know who it was where more interested in getting pissed all the time.Hopefully the place will be run much better in the future .Would have love to have fished it in the 60s early 70s as this was the golden period.
The booking system was also a load of crap you had to ring on a day in january , no one ever got through until after 4pm because they did,nt answer the phone until then to give out winter dates . I had 2 weeks in summer for 5 years and a week every winter and i never rang once !
If you watch the redmire forever dvd it shows a 30 cant remember who caught it but it was so heavily spawned it looked like a football and on the dvd it says i have caught the biggest fish in redmire and that was true but it died shortly after.
Mate i fished it 5 years on the run 3 weeks per year 2010-2015 the place was so run down and the biggest fish was low 20 so yes it was rubbish the stock had been compromised. I t had also been drained and de silted in the early 2000s .The people running it and you all know who it was where more interested in getting pissed all the time.Hopefully the place will be run much better in the future .Would have love to have fished it in the 60s early 70s as this was the golden period.
The booking system was also a load of crap you had to ring on a day in january , no one ever got through until after 4pm because they did,nt answer the phone until then to give out winter dates . I had 2 weeks in summer for 5 years and a week every winter and i never rang once !
If you watch the redmire forever dvd it shows a 30 cant remember who caught it but it was so heavily spawned it looked like a football and on the dvd it says i have caught the biggest fish in redmire and that was true but it died shortly after.
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Had a fantastic week there one summer, didn't get it via the phone either
The place didn't get much of a closed season either.
Had a fantastic week there one summer, didn't get it via the phone either
The place didn't get much of a closed season either.
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I used the phone way did take ages and to be fair to les he honoured the dates due to the weekend I booked with a work colleague it was frozen
I used the phone way did take ages and to be fair to les he honoured the dates due to the weekend I booked with a work colleague it was frozen
Ironically Redmire doesnt really do it for me, I can appreciate its importance in angling, but it probably wouldnt even get into my top 10 of places I'd like to fish.
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It would have been in the early 70s
It would have been in the early 70s
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I remember the Eddie Price photo , how big did they think that fish might have been ? It's somewhere that has always fascinated me but I'm not sure whether I'd like to fish there and spoil those memories . Having said that there are plenty of people who say it is still a magical place that makes the hair on your neck stand up , so who knows . I wonder in such a small pool whether there was too many that were uncaught.
I remember the Eddie Price photo , how big did they think that fish might have been ? It's somewhere that has always fascinated me but I'm not sure whether I'd like to fish there and spoil those memories . Having said that there are plenty of people who say it is still a magical place that makes the hair on your neck stand up , so who knows . I wonder in such a small pool whether there was too many that were uncaught.
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Feel exactly the same. Would have loved to have had a crack in its hey day but can't help feeling it's trading on a glory era that has long gone
Feel exactly the same. Would have loved to have had a crack in its hey day but can't help feeling it's trading on a glory era that has long gone
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It's still a lovely place to fish. Especially if you book it as an exclusive. We had four of us on when I fished it. A great social. BBQs. Lots of laughter. Plus it really felt like old school proper fishing. Go off stalking for a few hours. Quiet, peaceful, beautiful place to spend a few days.
It's still a lovely place to fish. Especially if you book it as an exclusive. We had four of us on when I fished it. A great social. BBQs. Lots of laughter. Plus it really felt like old school proper fishing. Go off stalking for a few hours. Quiet, peaceful, beautiful place to spend a few days.
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I'm sure it is absolutely beautiful mate but if there isn't a fella next to me smashing the water to a foam with a Deeper, one opposite spombing 10kgs out for his quick overnighter, a baitboat wiping my lines out at 3am, a fella and his big mouth Mrs making YouTube videos and beards and vapes and tattoos and VW Transporters as far as the eye can see, I'm just not interested...
I'm sure it is absolutely beautiful mate but if there isn't a fella next to me smashing the water to a foam with a Deeper, one opposite spombing 10kgs out for his quick overnighter, a baitboat wiping my lines out at 3am, a fella and his big mouth Mrs making YouTube videos and beards and vapes and tattoos and VW Transporters as far as the eye can see, I'm just not interested...
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totally agree. I was there in December, and there again in June this year. Loved our december week, hoping the june week will be even better
totally agree. I was there in December, and there again in June this year. Loved our december week, hoping the june week will be even better
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I was there last June. F@@k me it was weedy.
I was there last June. F@@k me it was weedy.
I remember the Eddie Price shot in the book, it's like one of those grainy old UFO images you cant really say for sure I think the best of them got caught over the years and dont think there was anything bigger than what was known about.
A fascinating water for what it was and where it was and for the fish that it produced but that was due to the fact the Galician strain carp it received in the 30's a hardy steady slow growing strain with good longevity given they were left to get on with it for a good many years unmolested by any angling pressure or modern farming practice and the rise in mister otter, I would say its hay day was from the 50's to the 90's from an era where carp were though un-catchable to a period in time where carp fishing started booming then the next 20 years it was ridden for its worth and driven into the ground with anglers paying good money for the privilege of it.
Hopefully going forward following all the works undertaken to de-silt and fence it and adjustments to the local farming practices it can once again hold big fish in the future but they will all be the offspring of pop rib simmos crossed with a local farmers koi from his pond, there hasn't been a Laney strain fish in that lake for years how they could claim that when they re-instated the pool and said that was all that was kept and re-introduced was and still is a farce there might be the smallest of chances that one or two made it through that's all I'm saying, and before anyone starts slating me Herefordshire and carp fishing is a small place if you've been around it long enough you know about some of the underhanded things that go on.
A fascinating water for what it was and where it was and for the fish that it produced but that was due to the fact the Galician strain carp it received in the 30's a hardy steady slow growing strain with good longevity given they were left to get on with it for a good many years unmolested by any angling pressure or modern farming practice and the rise in mister otter, I would say its hay day was from the 50's to the 90's from an era where carp were though un-catchable to a period in time where carp fishing started booming then the next 20 years it was ridden for its worth and driven into the ground with anglers paying good money for the privilege of it.
Hopefully going forward following all the works undertaken to de-silt and fence it and adjustments to the local farming practices it can once again hold big fish in the future but they will all be the offspring of pop rib simmos crossed with a local farmers koi from his pond, there hasn't been a Laney strain fish in that lake for years how they could claim that when they re-instated the pool and said that was all that was kept and re-introduced was and still is a farce there might be the smallest of chances that one or two made it through that's all I'm saying, and before anyone starts slating me Herefordshire and carp fishing is a small place if you've been around it long enough you know about some of the underhanded things that go on.
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I think the best of them got caught over the years and dont think there was anything bigger than what was known about.
What about the beached 58 that was netted by Walker? I don't believe that fish was ever landed on rod/line and I don't think it was one of the known big fish spawned up?
I think the best of them got caught over the years and dont think there was anything bigger than what was known about.
What about the beached 58 that was netted by Walker? I don't believe that fish was ever landed on rod/line and I don't think it was one of the known big fish spawned up?
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But does the origin of the stock really matter? Isn't it more important to be able to give anglers a taste of what fishing there back in the day was like.
But does the origin of the stock really matter? Isn't it more important to be able to give anglers a taste of what fishing there back in the day was like.
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we were hoping it wouldnt be too bad by June - i'll pack the rake and drop them in the edge if i have to!!!
we were hoping it wouldnt be too bad by June - i'll pack the rake and drop them in the edge if i have to!!!
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You mean the fish in the 1950's written about in letters years later in the 70's, a female fish that was beached during the spawning period that he said looked distressed and wouldn't make it back off the shallows so netted it carried it up to the dam end and released it but not before weighing it at 58lb or was that estimated or guesstimated, kit wasn't that good in the 50's they were taking them into Ross to weigh on the green grocers scales, also by his own admission in the same letters fish that he looked at in the water that he estimated could of been 50 or 60lb were later compared with his capture of Clarrisa at 44lb when he went on to catch it he said it could of been one of the fish he was watching a few seasons earlier same as the Eddie Price letters some 20 years after his sightings all hearsay I reckon half of them had some opiates in the pipe unfortunately time passes and stories become elaborated we will never know, what we do know is the biggest caught by rod and line was the Bishop by Yates, I like a story will sit and listen to the old boys I know still fishing from the same periods but they do have to think hard about some of what they're saying.
#17- But it's not back in the day, they'd have to be fishing with those anglers for those fish in that time otherwise your stood bankside of a lake with some less than average carp in it paying a premium to fish it with your mates and if people want to do that that's fine but I wouldn't waste my money, you can go and fish the watersmeet another old circuit water from a by gone era with rose tinted glasses on and only cost the day ticket price of 10 quid.
You mean the fish in the 1950's written about in letters years later in the 70's, a female fish that was beached during the spawning period that he said looked distressed and wouldn't make it back off the shallows so netted it carried it up to the dam end and released it but not before weighing it at 58lb or was that estimated or guesstimated, kit wasn't that good in the 50's they were taking them into Ross to weigh on the green grocers scales, also by his own admission in the same letters fish that he looked at in the water that he estimated could of been 50 or 60lb were later compared with his capture of Clarrisa at 44lb when he went on to catch it he said it could of been one of the fish he was watching a few seasons earlier same as the Eddie Price letters some 20 years after his sightings all hearsay I reckon half of them had some opiates in the pipe unfortunately time passes and stories become elaborated we will never know, what we do know is the biggest caught by rod and line was the Bishop by Yates, I like a story will sit and listen to the old boys I know still fishing from the same periods but they do have to think hard about some of what they're saying.
#17- But it's not back in the day, they'd have to be fishing with those anglers for those fish in that time otherwise your stood bankside of a lake with some less than average carp in it paying a premium to fish it with your mates and if people want to do that that's fine but I wouldn't waste my money, you can go and fish the watersmeet another old circuit water from a by gone era with rose tinted glasses on and only cost the day ticket price of 10 quid.
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Yes I mean that one
I though it had been witnessed by someone. Is that not right?
Yes I mean that one
I though it had been witnessed by someone. Is that not right?
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Yes but my point is that for a lot of guys who aren't fortunate enough to have the kind of tickets we have, their experience of carp fishing is being hemmed in at linear or having a prebooked swim. The chance to experience a bit of actual proper fishing as it's meant to be must be worth the premium price. I look at redmire as a holiday venue these days. For me personally the actual lineage of the stock is of less importance
Yes but my point is that for a lot of guys who aren't fortunate enough to have the kind of tickets we have, their experience of carp fishing is being hemmed in at linear or having a prebooked swim. The chance to experience a bit of actual proper fishing as it's meant to be must be worth the premium price. I look at redmire as a holiday venue these days. For me personally the actual lineage of the stock is of less importance
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Most people fished redmire for the history etc but more importantly for the original leney strain of carp.Have heard all the bull its a place where the atmosphere is frightening etc never felt anything there but it is a nice place to be. I first went in close season in 79 and 2 big name anglers were poaching it ,dont blame them i would have too.Tim paisley did an article in carp world in late 90s or 2000s and he said it needed leaving alone for 20years. Its been hammered every day by 4 anglers for years and those that have been know that 4 on it is plenty.
Most people fished redmire for the history etc but more importantly for the original leney strain of carp.Have heard all the bull its a place where the atmosphere is frightening etc never felt anything there but it is a nice place to be. I first went in close season in 79 and 2 big name anglers were poaching it ,dont blame them i would have too.Tim paisley did an article in carp world in late 90s or 2000s and he said it needed leaving alone for 20years. Its been hammered every day by 4 anglers for years and those that have been know that 4 on it is plenty.
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