Hi
I have been told by a few mates that I should be looking at upgrading my tackle for bigger carp / night sessions.
I currently have
x2 total carp 12ft 3lb tc rods
x2 total carp reels
x2 alarms no reciever
My mates said to get 3.5tc rods and big pit reels aswell as a set of alarms with reciever for night fishing plus a barrow to male things easier getting to some pegs.
Would you recommend 3.5tc rods or will the 3lb tc rods be ok with big pit reels?
Cheers
I have been told by a few mates that I should be looking at upgrading my tackle for bigger carp / night sessions.
I currently have
x2 total carp 12ft 3lb tc rods
x2 total carp reels
x2 alarms no reciever
My mates said to get 3.5tc rods and big pit reels aswell as a set of alarms with reciever for night fishing plus a barrow to male things easier getting to some pegs.
Would you recommend 3.5tc rods or will the 3lb tc rods be ok with big pit reels?
Cheers
In reply to Post #1
3lb test curve is absolutely fine. Will happily land fish from all over the U.K. on them pal. 3.5 is getting towards a casting rod for 100 yards +
Nice set of 5500 reels on the 3lb rods would be spot on.
With a receiver it just helps it pegs where you can't set up really close to your rods. I've done without before but I'd rather have one when possible for nights.
Also a barrow will help when you have to lug more gear around lakes
3lb test curve is absolutely fine. Will happily land fish from all over the U.K. on them pal. 3.5 is getting towards a casting rod for 100 yards +
Nice set of 5500 reels on the 3lb rods would be spot on.
With a receiver it just helps it pegs where you can't set up really close to your rods. I've done without before but I'd rather have one when possible for nights.
Also a barrow will help when you have to lug more gear around lakes
In reply to Post #2
They just said look at big pit reels and said the nash s5 alarms and reciever would be decent to buy.
They just said look at big pit reels and said the nash s5 alarms and reciever would be decent to buy.
In reply to Post #1
All depends on what sized lake your fishing?
Is it weedy? Do you need long casts? Snaggy? are there more 30s than smaller fish etc
I would say rods of 2.75 to 3.25 would suit most waters and then decide on the reels.
All depends on what sized lake your fishing?
Is it weedy? Do you need long casts? Snaggy? are there more 30s than smaller fish etc
I would say rods of 2.75 to 3.25 would suit most waters and then decide on the reels.
In reply to Post #1
Unless you're looking to cast extreme distances, 3.5lb rods simply aren't required. A 2.75lb rod has the capability to land literally any carp in the entire world. Bigger reels may help with casting distance and cranking power, plus help thicker mainlines or fluoro to behave better. Alarms with receiver, nice to have but not actually needed unless you have to bivvy up away from the rods, or it's a rule to use one. Barrow, yes, obviously makes life easier lugging the kit about.
The very best areas to invest money in carp fishing are good tickets, top notch end tackle, and quantities of decent bait. The rest is mostly just willy waving fluff. 🤣👍
Unless you're looking to cast extreme distances, 3.5lb rods simply aren't required. A 2.75lb rod has the capability to land literally any carp in the entire world. Bigger reels may help with casting distance and cranking power, plus help thicker mainlines or fluoro to behave better. Alarms with receiver, nice to have but not actually needed unless you have to bivvy up away from the rods, or it's a rule to use one. Barrow, yes, obviously makes life easier lugging the kit about.
The very best areas to invest money in carp fishing are good tickets, top notch end tackle, and quantities of decent bait. The rest is mostly just willy waving fluff. 🤣👍
In reply to Post #1
Same as what post No:4 says
Your rods should be good for around 100yds +. If you need to cast further, get some rods that can cast bigger distances and learn how to cast big ranges. I don't know the reels you have, unless your current reels are falling apart or you just want to buy some new shinny ones, stick with what you have. The differences in say a 5500 size reel and 14000 reel has been demonstrated by a certain long range caster to be marginal; there's a difference, not supper massive like you might possibly assume.
What a fair few anglers have is different setups for different situations, i.e, a short range set of rods and a longer range set of rods, due in part as the longer range rods are more 'steely' and can rip hooks out of fish in the edge, moreso if you mince up setting your clutch incorrectly.
Alarms with remotes are the nuts, you can go "walkabout".
A barrow is great and makes it easier to get about a venue.
Prolly not a great idea to buy moar new gear just coz your mates said so; your money though mate 👍
Same as what post No:4 says
Your rods should be good for around 100yds +. If you need to cast further, get some rods that can cast bigger distances and learn how to cast big ranges. I don't know the reels you have, unless your current reels are falling apart or you just want to buy some new shinny ones, stick with what you have. The differences in say a 5500 size reel and 14000 reel has been demonstrated by a certain long range caster to be marginal; there's a difference, not supper massive like you might possibly assume.
What a fair few anglers have is different setups for different situations, i.e, a short range set of rods and a longer range set of rods, due in part as the longer range rods are more 'steely' and can rip hooks out of fish in the edge, moreso if you mince up setting your clutch incorrectly.
Alarms with remotes are the nuts, you can go "walkabout".
A barrow is great and makes it easier to get about a venue.
Prolly not a great idea to buy moar new gear just coz your mates said so; your money though mate 👍
In reply to Post #1
Personally I wouldn't listen to your mate unless you yourself experience difficulties with your own kit - your mates views are an opinion only. Is an extra 0.5lb test curve really going to make that much difference for you in whatever situation you are in, I doubt it.
A receiver is a good idea for night fishing, I would agree.
Take suggestions and opinions with a pinch of salt. If you experience a difficulty yourself and see some benefit then give the matter more thought but I would never base my needs on what somebody else thinks - just my personal view.
Personally I wouldn't listen to your mate unless you yourself experience difficulties with your own kit - your mates views are an opinion only. Is an extra 0.5lb test curve really going to make that much difference for you in whatever situation you are in, I doubt it.
A receiver is a good idea for night fishing, I would agree.
Take suggestions and opinions with a pinch of salt. If you experience a difficulty yourself and see some benefit then give the matter more thought but I would never base my needs on what somebody else thinks - just my personal view.
In reply to Post #7
I agree with rig demon don't listen everyone is different I know people that take a big barra bag on barra and loads of pouches and bags for a day session
I know others that take a small camara size bag min gear some use 2.75 rods others 3.5 some 12ft others 9ft look at the water you going to fish regularly and base your tackle around it best not to ask for opinions
Then you won't get your head spinning with loads of ideas
I agree with rig demon don't listen everyone is different I know people that take a big barra bag on barra and loads of pouches and bags for a day session
I know others that take a small camara size bag min gear some use 2.75 rods others 3.5 some 12ft others 9ft look at the water you going to fish regularly and base your tackle around it best not to ask for opinions
Then you won't get your head spinning with loads of ideas
In reply to Post #7
Excellent advice
Excellent advice
In reply to Post #9
I think I will keep my rods for a while but they did say I may need bigger reels as the bigger fish can sometimes scream off and I wouldn't want to run low on line, I'm not a tackle tart or anything I just don't want to turn up on a bigger venue and have a rod snap, line run out etc
I haven't done any nightfishing yet but I do have a bivvy and bechair, think I will invest in another alarm set with a reciever just for piece of mind
Trying to get in the 20s club so looking at different venues etc
Thanks for all your advice
I think I will keep my rods for a while but they did say I may need bigger reels as the bigger fish can sometimes scream off and I wouldn't want to run low on line, I'm not a tackle tart or anything I just don't want to turn up on a bigger venue and have a rod snap, line run out etc
I haven't done any nightfishing yet but I do have a bivvy and bechair, think I will invest in another alarm set with a reciever just for piece of mind
Trying to get in the 20s club so looking at different venues etc
Thanks for all your advice
In reply to Post #7
Some of the best advice I've ever seen on here mate, I would completely listen to this 👍
Some of the best advice I've ever seen on here mate, I would completely listen to this 👍
In reply to Post #10
Paddy, welcome to the mad House, if you let ys know what reels you have, we may be able to give you a steer on their suitability. Also what kind of water are you fishing, how big, how far do you need/want to cast etc?
Paddy, welcome to the mad House, if you let ys know what reels you have, we may be able to give you a steer on their suitability. Also what kind of water are you fishing, how big, how far do you need/want to cast etc?
In reply to Post #12
Hi bud it's in the 1st post I currently have the total carp rods and reels, currently fishing different venues at the minute but some reservoirs and open water
Hi bud it's in the 1st post I currently have the total carp rods and reels, currently fishing different venues at the minute but some reservoirs and open water
In reply to Post #10
Welcome to the mad world of carp fishing
Just a comment - the test curve of your rods and the size of your reels have little if nothing to do with the size of fish you're fishing for. The high tc rods and big pit reels are for casting long distances. The gear you have is capable of landing fish of any size, but you may not be able to cast to the moon
If you need to cast further then consider beefing up your gear, but if you don't then don't worry. Just make sure you have plenty of line on your reels (and good quality line)
You may however find that you want better quality rods and reels. There's a lot of great gear around these days and not too expensive if you did want to upgrade. Worth asking for advice/opinions on anything you consider getting. There's some very knowledgeable and helpful people on this forum who will steer you in the right direction. It's also worth looking at second hand, as you can get some fantastic kit at bargain prices if you know what to look for.
Phil
Welcome to the mad world of carp fishing
Just a comment - the test curve of your rods and the size of your reels have little if nothing to do with the size of fish you're fishing for. The high tc rods and big pit reels are for casting long distances. The gear you have is capable of landing fish of any size, but you may not be able to cast to the moon
If you need to cast further then consider beefing up your gear, but if you don't then don't worry. Just make sure you have plenty of line on your reels (and good quality line)
You may however find that you want better quality rods and reels. There's a lot of great gear around these days and not too expensive if you did want to upgrade. Worth asking for advice/opinions on anything you consider getting. There's some very knowledgeable and helpful people on this forum who will steer you in the right direction. It's also worth looking at second hand, as you can get some fantastic kit at bargain prices if you know what to look for.
Phil
In reply to Post #1
as said 5500 size reels are perfect for up to 100 yds 16lb line ( fox exorcet 16lb is super strong and thin for the lbs) and 3 oz lead hit that no problem at all .... I also have 10000 & 14000 size and am hitting a little further ..the bigger the reels you go the balance goes and you can loose distance ... don't get caught by "must have" big pits unless you are fishing big pits and using a bait boat.
as said 5500 size reels are perfect for up to 100 yds 16lb line ( fox exorcet 16lb is super strong and thin for the lbs) and 3 oz lead hit that no problem at all .... I also have 10000 & 14000 size and am hitting a little further ..the bigger the reels you go the balance goes and you can loose distance ... don't get caught by "must have" big pits unless you are fishing big pits and using a bait boat.
In reply to Post #14
I agree I remember around 1995 an article in a mag a young lad he was saying he's been fishing and keeps not catching he said it's because he hasn't got shimano baitrunners that is true it's a mad world you can get sucked in and be chopping and changing gear around
An old boy I fished with years ago said he spent thousands changing gear he said carp fishing is an illness lol
I agree I remember around 1995 an article in a mag a young lad he was saying he's been fishing and keeps not catching he said it's because he hasn't got shimano baitrunners that is true it's a mad world you can get sucked in and be chopping and changing gear around
An old boy I fished with years ago said he spent thousands changing gear he said carp fishing is an illness lol
I am guessing you are new to carp fishing? Yes as others have said decent alarms with a receiver would be nice.
As for the rest wait until you have learnt watercraft it's all about presenting effectively a good quality bait in the right place.
Until you are confident in doing that and recognising any possible short falls in your current rods and reels reaching the right location to catch there is no need to change yet.
As for the rest wait until you have learnt watercraft it's all about presenting effectively a good quality bait in the right place.
Until you are confident in doing that and recognising any possible short falls in your current rods and reels reaching the right location to catch there is no need to change yet.
I'd be interested in how experienced your friend is,re the advice, I'm not being funny either..why I say this Is because the modern trend today as regards carp fishing seems to be using over gunned and powerful tackle..
Remember,it's not the gear, it's the person using the gear,..where you place your baits ,and how you actually go about your angling..
I've been carping a very long time,I use 2.5tc rods everywhere..I don't struggle to not enjoy myself..note the word ,enjoy..!
Remember,it's not the gear, it's the person using the gear,..where you place your baits ,and how you actually go about your angling..
I've been carping a very long time,I use 2.5tc rods everywhere..I don't struggle to not enjoy myself..note the word ,enjoy..!
In reply to Post #18
When we were fishing I was struggling to reach some overhanging trees about 100 yards out he said I wouldn't have much line left to play the carp if it pulled away, I think I'm going to look at big pit reels for this reason. I don't think k I have any reason for new rods so I will be keeping the same. I have decided to look for some alarms and reciever for the night sessions I plan on doing, any recommendations? Not wanting to spend a fortune but something 2nd hand and reliable will do me well.
Thank you for all your advice so far I do appreciate it
When we were fishing I was struggling to reach some overhanging trees about 100 yards out he said I wouldn't have much line left to play the carp if it pulled away, I think I'm going to look at big pit reels for this reason. I don't think k I have any reason for new rods so I will be keeping the same. I have decided to look for some alarms and reciever for the night sessions I plan on doing, any recommendations? Not wanting to spend a fortune but something 2nd hand and reliable will do me well.
Thank you for all your advice so far I do appreciate it
In reply to Post #19
Surely your reels hold more than 100 yards of line? Even match reels do. You don't need big pits to fish at 100 yards . And also not many fish will start pulling line off you at a 100 yards. Your mates "experience" sounds minimal with the "advice" youv been given
Surely your reels hold more than 100 yards of line? Even match reels do. You don't need big pits to fish at 100 yards . And also not many fish will start pulling line off you at a 100 yards. Your mates "experience" sounds minimal with the "advice" youv been given
In reply to Post #19
It all comes down to your budget,if I was in your shoes and you sound determined to.upgrade your reels ,I'd look at Okuma,the inception,in 6000 size
However,I'm not being rude,don't take this personal ok,it's not the tackle you need to think about it is the mindset and advice ,seriously..
I fish tiny ponds,like half n acre,right up to 82 acres,then 997 acres I don't struggle,nor do I want multiple rod or reel set ups,
Just enjoy the fishing,and learning processes, don't focus too much on having the latest ,biggest ,fastest, etc,you know what I mean..
It all comes down to your budget,if I was in your shoes and you sound determined to.upgrade your reels ,I'd look at Okuma,the inception,in 6000 size
However,I'm not being rude,don't take this personal ok,it's not the tackle you need to think about it is the mindset and advice ,seriously..
I fish tiny ponds,like half n acre,right up to 82 acres,then 997 acres I don't struggle,nor do I want multiple rod or reel set ups,
Just enjoy the fishing,and learning processes, don't focus too much on having the latest ,biggest ,fastest, etc,you know what I mean..
In reply to Post #21
Another vote inc 6000 okuma great reels
Another vote inc 6000 okuma great reels
In reply to Post #20
I did think that to be honest, I have been fishing a few years but all the tackle does the same job to me obviously quality xomes into it but I don't want to turn up to a well known venue and be turned away because of my tackle ( I do suffer with anxiety and this would make me bin my gear )
I enjoy being on the bank just looking to upgrade what's necessary not looking for the next best thing etc.
I do appreciated everyone's advice
I did think that to be honest, I have been fishing a few years but all the tackle does the same job to me obviously quality xomes into it but I don't want to turn up to a well known venue and be turned away because of my tackle ( I do suffer with anxiety and this would make me bin my gear )
I enjoy being on the bank just looking to upgrade what's necessary not looking for the next best thing etc.
I do appreciated everyone's advice
In reply to Post #23
You won't get turned away for your tackle , not for anything except inadequate fishcare items net, mat etc, or unless you try something daft like fishing snaggy pits using 6lb line! Fishery owners don't mind if you use a £50 reel or a £500 one. And the fish don't care either
You won't get turned away for your tackle , not for anything except inadequate fishcare items net, mat etc, or unless you try something daft like fishing snaggy pits using 6lb line! Fishery owners don't mind if you use a £50 reel or a £500 one. And the fish don't care either
In reply to Post #24
Any recommendations on 2 alarms and a reciever?
I like the nash siren s5 but I do like alarms with snag ears.
Any recommendations on 2 alarms and a reciever?
I like the nash siren s5 but I do like alarms with snag ears.
In reply to Post #25
You can always buy separate snag ears, and they're rarely actually needed to be honest.
If you need a receiver it's the S5R alarms you need not the S5.
In terms of other options, personally I'm a fox fan, the mx+ are pretty good value. Prologic BAT alarms get good reviews on here for a budget set but I haven't used them myself.
You can always buy separate snag ears, and they're rarely actually needed to be honest.
If you need a receiver it's the S5R alarms you need not the S5.
In terms of other options, personally I'm a fox fan, the mx+ are pretty good value. Prologic BAT alarms get good reviews on here for a budget set but I haven't used them myself.
In reply to Post #25
Those s5r are actually bloody good little alarms. Outside of delkims I'd definitely have Nash alarms over fox or the other cheaper brands
Those s5r are actually bloody good little alarms. Outside of delkims I'd definitely have Nash alarms over fox or the other cheaper brands
In reply to Post #27
Will have a look at the s5r set, I do prefer to have 2 different colours thought haha.
Really nice to see so many helpful people on this forum!
Will have a look at the s5r set, I do prefer to have 2 different colours thought haha.
Really nice to see so many helpful people on this forum!
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