Can anyone please recommend a decent braided mainline ? Are there any issues I should be aware of when using braid and would you recommend a leader , many thanks ?
In reply to Post #1
I can't actually recommend a braided mainline, (although I'm hearing good things about the soon to be released braid from Thinking Anglers).
What i CAN do is wholeheartedly steer you away from Fox Submerge, because it does not in actual fact submerge. At all.
I can't actually recommend a braided mainline, (although I'm hearing good things about the soon to be released braid from Thinking Anglers).
What i CAN do is wholeheartedly steer you away from Fox Submerge, because it does not in actual fact submerge. At all.
In reply to Post #2
I'm guessing the TA one will be a rebadged Gardner one with Lewis involved
I'm guessing the TA one will be a rebadged Gardner one with Lewis involved
In reply to Post #3
Thanks . Any idea whether the Korda sub braid is any good , I've heard it sinks pretty good ? One thing that i'd been thinking of is line twist . Playing fish off the clutch with mono normally ends with a degree of twist in the line , just wondering whether this would be the case with braid , thanks .
Thanks . Any idea whether the Korda sub braid is any good , I've heard it sinks pretty good ? One thing that i'd been thinking of is line twist . Playing fish off the clutch with mono normally ends with a degree of twist in the line , just wondering whether this would be the case with braid , thanks .
In reply to Post #1
Iv recently got the Gardner hydra sink noir. Not used it yet but from my research that was one of the bests. From what I gather it sinks well but at 0.35 it's quite thick so be interesting how it casts. My spomb braid I think is 0.18 and that flies
Iv recently got the Gardner hydra sink noir. Not used it yet but from my research that was one of the bests. From what I gather it sinks well but at 0.35 it's quite thick so be interesting how it casts. My spomb braid I think is 0.18 and that flies
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Not too sure if they make it anymore, but spoiled up with Korda Apex braid last year, very impressed with it in all aspects.
Not too sure if they make it anymore, but spoiled up with Korda Apex braid last year, very impressed with it in all aspects.
In reply to Post #1
The Gardner hydro sink is excellent, as is suffix 832. Have used both and would happily recommend either.
Sufix for big range casting, hydro sink for everything else.
The Gardner hydro sink is excellent, as is suffix 832. Have used both and would happily recommend either.
Sufix for big range casting, hydro sink for everything else.
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Thanks for that . What is the difference between Gardner hydro sink and hydro sink noir , thanks ? Would you be using a leader with this and if so what type , thanks?
Thanks for that . What is the difference between Gardner hydro sink and hydro sink noir , thanks ? Would you be using a leader with this and if so what type , thanks?
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I've only used the regular hydro sink, it's been very good so I've not bothered changing and trying the noir. But I've heard many good things about it too. I don't bother with and leader other than 3-6 foot of leadcore. Kind of defeats the objective of using braid for me personally having a fluro or mono leader I'd rather not have any stretch at all.
I've only used the regular hydro sink, it's been very good so I've not bothered changing and trying the noir. But I've heard many good things about it too. I don't bother with and leader other than 3-6 foot of leadcore. Kind of defeats the objective of using braid for me personally having a fluro or mono leader I'd rather not have any stretch at all.
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Thanks for that . I'll have to give the Gardner a look and I think thinking anglers have one coming out soon so don't know what that will be like .
Thanks for that . I'll have to give the Gardner a look and I think thinking anglers have one coming out soon so don't know what that will be like .
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I know it's all down to gear and each person, but comparably for you, how far can you cast the suffix compared to the Gardner? Got the Gardner for trying to cast a bit further then I can with my mono. It's not the end of the world as worst case il just fish closer
I know it's all down to gear and each person, but comparably for you, how far can you cast the suffix compared to the Gardner? Got the Gardner for trying to cast a bit further then I can with my mono. It's not the end of the world as worst case il just fish closer
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I use the 832 in .24 with a shock leader and tbh it'd be unfair to compare it in the slightest. The Gardner is a lot thicker and heavier. It cast reasonably well in 22lb version, but I've not had to use it over 60 yards really and bought it for close in use more than anything.
I can put the suffix over 160 yards in the right conditions. I think it would start being a pain in the arse with the Gardner stuff in 22lb for anything much over 100 yards although ive not seen or used the 15lb version so couldn't comment on that.
I use the 832 in .24 with a shock leader and tbh it'd be unfair to compare it in the slightest. The Gardner is a lot thicker and heavier. It cast reasonably well in 22lb version, but I've not had to use it over 60 yards really and bought it for close in use more than anything.
I can put the suffix over 160 yards in the right conditions. I think it would start being a pain in the arse with the Gardner stuff in 22lb for anything much over 100 yards although ive not seen or used the 15lb version so couldn't comment on that.
In reply to Post #12
Fair enough, I didnt really think much of it tbh as well... I Didn't lol, but the spomb braid flies, but that is half the diameter!
Fair enough, I didnt really think much of it tbh as well... I Didn't lol, but the spomb braid flies, but that is half the diameter!
In reply to Post #11
You will definitely cast it further than mono mate
You will definitely cast it further than mono mate
Sinking braids usually have a thread of something heavy in to make them sink. In the Gardner Noir's case I believe it's flouro. It will have minimal stretch, it will be tough, it will sink but it won't cast any better than mono. For that you want a neutral braid in a lower diameter, something like the 832 or whiplash.
In reply to Post #15
Have you tried it, or are you speculating? I've used it and it casts further than mono, trust me it flies off the spool!
Have you tried it, or are you speculating? I've used it and it casts further than mono, trust me it flies off the spool!
In reply to Post #16
I've just asked about this issue in a separate thread . I currently use 0.37 esp syncro loaded and was wondering whether I would find the Gardner noir harder to cast perhaps up to 100 yards , thanks .
I've just asked about this issue in a separate thread . I currently use 0.37 esp syncro loaded and was wondering whether I would find the Gardner noir harder to cast perhaps up to 100 yards , thanks .
I've used it in 22lb and it's more than capable of hitting a 100 yards and I'm not a caster. It's a rough braid in my opinion and very strong. Cut through my alarms but I do alot of snag fishing locked up.
Since replaced it for that matter as it was damaging my kit. It's a fantastic braid and if I went to roller wheel alarms I'd use it again
Since replaced it for that matter as it was damaging my kit. It's a fantastic braid and if I went to roller wheel alarms I'd use it again
In reply to Post #16
I've used the standard hydrosink in both .30 and .35. It casts ok for a sinking braid, but the .35 will not go as far as .35 synchro mono. I guess it depends on the mono you are comparing to, but a true sinking braid will always be heavier than mono of the same diameter.
You can't be trying to say that the Noir will fly off the spool like 0.18 floating braid? It's just not possible.
I've used the standard hydrosink in both .30 and .35. It casts ok for a sinking braid, but the .35 will not go as far as .35 synchro mono. I guess it depends on the mono you are comparing to, but a true sinking braid will always be heavier than mono of the same diameter.
You can't be trying to say that the Noir will fly off the spool like 0.18 floating braid? It's just not possible.
In reply to Post #19
Thanks for the replies . I've not heard of buzzers getting damaged by braid . I use Delkims but never locked up so not sure if this would be a problem . Incidentally , with mono you get an element of line twist when you play fish off the clutch . Is this something that you would get whilst using braid , thanks?
Thanks for the replies . I've not heard of buzzers getting damaged by braid . I use Delkims but never locked up so not sure if this would be a problem . Incidentally , with mono you get an element of line twist when you play fish off the clutch . Is this something that you would get whilst using braid , thanks?
In reply to Post #20
Not with braid no. Certainly a big positive.
And yeah cut right through the alarm nearly taking one side off. But the water I was on did require alot of locked up work.
Not with braid no. Certainly a big positive.
And yeah cut right through the alarm nearly taking one side off. But the water I was on did require alot of locked up work.
In reply to Post #19
No, floating braid will cast further that Noir but I still hold fast on saying noir will cast further than comparable mono. Vinnie can try it and confirm 🙂
No, floating braid will cast further that Noir but I still hold fast on saying noir will cast further than comparable mono. Vinnie can try it and confirm 🙂
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