High guys looking to invest in a new camera for self takes, in the past I've used and old Canon 350d or a equally old IXUS 950 compact.
I am by no means a competent photographer, but do understand the basics of aperture, depth of field, ISO etc.
I admit to being confused by the vast array of DSLR, Mirror less, and compact cameras.
Ideally I'd like a Canon as I have past experience with their controls, I also like the idea of a flip screen to make self takes easier.
I have a budget of around £500, I'm also happy to buy second hand.
The Canon M50 has been mentioned and looks good , (around £400 second hand on mpd.com, body only) but I'm unsure about what lens would be right for self take requirements .
I also like the idea of something as small as possible but not sure if that would compromise on picture quality or not ?
I am by no means a competent photographer, but do understand the basics of aperture, depth of field, ISO etc.
I admit to being confused by the vast array of DSLR, Mirror less, and compact cameras.
Ideally I'd like a Canon as I have past experience with their controls, I also like the idea of a flip screen to make self takes easier.
I have a budget of around £500, I'm also happy to buy second hand.
The Canon M50 has been mentioned and looks good , (around £400 second hand on mpd.com, body only) but I'm unsure about what lens would be right for self take requirements .
I also like the idea of something as small as possible but not sure if that would compromise on picture quality or not ?
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Earlier this year I wanted to move over to a DLSR but didn't want the bulk of that size camera so went for something slightly smaller more compact but still with great picture quality like the DLSR would give . So I went for a Canon mk1 eos m6 mirror camera maanaged to get it from the curry's discount shop of eBay which is a lot more compact and allows you to plug an intervalometer into it .It also has the flip up screen it came with a lens but I went for better quality lens which was Canon 32mm f1.4 STM EF-M lens which takes quality pictures . I did look at the Canon M50 mirrorless camera but it didn't allow you to connect a intervalometer to it
Earlier this year I wanted to move over to a DLSR but didn't want the bulk of that size camera so went for something slightly smaller more compact but still with great picture quality like the DLSR would give . So I went for a Canon mk1 eos m6 mirror camera maanaged to get it from the curry's discount shop of eBay which is a lot more compact and allows you to plug an intervalometer into it .It also has the flip up screen it came with a lens but I went for better quality lens which was Canon 32mm f1.4 STM EF-M lens which takes quality pictures . I did look at the Canon M50 mirrorless camera but it didn't allow you to connect a intervalometer to it
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Thanks thats interesting , what's the advantage of the 32mm lens , read a lot of guys use this lens over the kit lens but not sure what the advantage is ?
Thanks thats interesting , what's the advantage of the 32mm lens , read a lot of guys use this lens over the kit lens but not sure what the advantage is ?
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Not quite sure I think with the 32mm lens you don't need to have the camera so far away like you do with the likes of a 50mm lens I'm no wiz with camera just took some advice of other members on here that are a bit more knowledgeable with cameras and the best sort of lens setup they recommended and the and went with that and have been very happy with the self takes I've taken with it and the picture quality
Not quite sure I think with the 32mm lens you don't need to have the camera so far away like you do with the likes of a 50mm lens I'm no wiz with camera just took some advice of other members on here that are a bit more knowledgeable with cameras and the best sort of lens setup they recommended and the and went with that and have been very happy with the self takes I've taken with it and the picture quality
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I've been recently looking myself and have come to the conclusion that for me the Canon M50 is the one, you can download an app onto your phone for the intervalometer and also control all the settings remotely from there also, have the phone on a bucket next to you and bingo.
I've been recently looking myself and have come to the conclusion that for me the Canon M50 is the one, you can download an app onto your phone for the intervalometer and also control all the settings remotely from there also, have the phone on a bucket next to you and bingo.
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32mm lens on a cropped sensor is an equal for a 50mm on a full frame.
This lens will be suited to shoot realistic pictures. So, no big angle photos and unbalanced relation between fish and angler.
Also, most likely, depending on the lens you buy, these lenses will have a better light sensitivity than a kit lens. The diafragma will have a smaller number, 1.2, 1.4 or 1.8f.
32mm lens on a cropped sensor is an equal for a 50mm on a full frame.
This lens will be suited to shoot realistic pictures. So, no big angle photos and unbalanced relation between fish and angler.
Also, most likely, depending on the lens you buy, these lenses will have a better light sensitivity than a kit lens. The diafragma will have a smaller number, 1.2, 1.4 or 1.8f.
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Yes the M50 does look good, had a look at the reviews for the M50 mark 2 and there doesn't seem a lot of difference between the two for stills photography, but there is for video.
Yes the M50 does look good, had a look at the reviews for the M50 mark 2 and there doesn't seem a lot of difference between the two for stills photography, but there is for video.
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Thanks I do really appreciate your reply, but that doesn't mean a lot to me to be honest, other than the better light sensitivity, which I do understand !
The 32mm lens I've looked at are at least the same price or more than the camera body, am I looking at the right thing ?
The kit lens is a Canon EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM, would that take a decent self take and if not, (in lay man's terms please ,) what would the 32mm lens provide extra ?
Thanks I do really appreciate your reply, but that doesn't mean a lot to me to be honest, other than the better light sensitivity, which I do understand !
The 32mm lens I've looked at are at least the same price or more than the camera body, am I looking at the right thing ?
The kit lens is a Canon EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 IS STM, would that take a decent self take and if not, (in lay man's terms please ,) what would the 32mm lens provide extra ?
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I have the m50 and you cant shoot with a delay between shots, it just shoots whatever number of shots you tell it too in rapid succession. Bit of a pain really for self takes.
I have the m50 and you cant shoot with a delay between shots, it just shoots whatever number of shots you tell it too in rapid succession. Bit of a pain really for self takes.
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The EF-M 15-45 will take fine photographs
The EF-M 15-45 will take fine photographs
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Do you mean via the phone app ?
Do you mean via the phone app ?
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This 15-45 MM will take decent photos but die to the high diafragma the depth of field will be larger, meaning more items in the back of you and the carp will be sharp, meaning the carp won't stand out.
Btw, have a look at 3th party lenses, sigma is a good brand and cheaper than Canon lenses.
Here some info about depth of field:
https://photographylife.com/what-is-depth-of-field/amp
This 15-45 MM will take decent photos but die to the high diafragma the depth of field will be larger, meaning more items in the back of you and the carp will be sharp, meaning the carp won't stand out.
Btw, have a look at 3th party lenses, sigma is a good brand and cheaper than Canon lenses.
Here some info about depth of field:
https://photographylife.com/what-is-depth-of-field/amp
If you already own an Eos you can buy an adaptor which allows you to use the canon EF lenses.obviously not much help if you don't 🤷♂️
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Thanks but I don't 👍
Thanks but I don't 👍
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Thanks that makes sense , I do have a fair understanding of Depth of field, but will look at the link too, cheers 👍
Thanks that makes sense , I do have a fair understanding of Depth of field, but will look at the link too, cheers 👍
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I got a second hand 70d for 350 on marketplace.
£15 intervalometer.
Pictues are perfect👍👍
I got a second hand 70d for 350 on marketplace.
£15 intervalometer.
Pictues are perfect👍👍
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Depth of field isn't a big deal between a prime or kit zoom for catch shots, since you'd have to stop the prime down anyway to keep what you want in focus.
Better focusing in low light and better overall image quality are the reasons to get one. If you really want ultra blurry backgrounds better to get a longer lens like the sigma 56mm 1.4
Depth of field isn't a big deal between a prime or kit zoom for catch shots, since you'd have to stop the prime down anyway to keep what you want in focus.
Better focusing in low light and better overall image quality are the reasons to get one. If you really want ultra blurry backgrounds better to get a longer lens like the sigma 56mm 1.4
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Oh ok thanks, that also makes sense and I'm getting a better idea of what I require now.
Had a look at a couple of comparison reviews on the Sigma 30mm f1.4 and the Canon 32mm f1.4, apart from being a bit heavier the Sigma seems good value , any views on that ?
Oh ok thanks, that also makes sense and I'm getting a better idea of what I require now.
Had a look at a couple of comparison reviews on the Sigma 30mm f1.4 and the Canon 32mm f1.4, apart from being a bit heavier the Sigma seems good value , any views on that ?
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I've only used those sigma in mft mount. The 30 is very good but to big. I like the 56 a lot but wouldn't have much use for it.
I don't see canon supporting 2 mirrorless mounts long term in a shrinking market so I'd be using an adaptor rather than building a native kit.
I'd have to anyway as the 32mm aside there isn't anything interesting in the line up.
Add to that canons history of treating crop sensor users as second class citizens...
.. I'd buy a fuji
I've only used those sigma in mft mount. The 30 is very good but to big. I like the 56 a lot but wouldn't have much use for it.
I don't see canon supporting 2 mirrorless mounts long term in a shrinking market so I'd be using an adaptor rather than building a native kit.
I'd have to anyway as the 32mm aside there isn't anything interesting in the line up.
Add to that canons history of treating crop sensor users as second class citizens...
.. I'd buy a fuji
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What's the app called plz Rob?
What's the app called plz Rob?
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Yes via the phone app
Yes via the phone app
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If we're talking about Canon camera connect, agree its pants for everything apart from getting the pics off the camera. Which app has an intervalometer?
If we're talking about Canon camera connect, agree its pants for everything apart from getting the pics off the camera. Which app has an intervalometer?
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There are a few Ian, tethermonkey was one my bro in law used
I know he went through loads of apps that were glitchy or flashed adds up constantly. He 'borrowed' my em5ii in April so I guess he got fed up with them
There are a few Ian, tethermonkey was one my bro in law used
I know he went through loads of apps that were glitchy or flashed adds up constantly. He 'borrowed' my em5ii in April so I guess he got fed up with them
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I'll stick with the external jobby for now then
I'll stick with the external jobby for now then
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Sorry mate just seen this, the app is called 'Cascable', might only be on iPhone though
Sorry mate just seen this, the app is called 'Cascable', might only be on iPhone though
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As an update I actually have the M50 mkII now which is a lovely bit of kit. As has been mentioned before the self timer on the camera just fires off a burst after a 10 seconds or whatever which is no good to us. However the Cascable app is the dogs danglies. It has an intervalometer which is great and useable as it is but you can't set a delay before the first shot, which isn't a massive issue. But where it comes into its own is the 'Shutter Robot' feature. Basically you put together macros or 'recipes' as they call it, where you can build editable blocks to get the camera to do pretty much anything automatically. For example you could set up an intervalometer chain with a delay before the first shot shot, then take a shot with your settings as normal then you could have the next shot exposure bracketed, the next one back to normal or bracketed the opposite way and so on, it's excellent, you do have to pay to get these features though. All controllable from your phone or ipad, highly recommended
As an update I actually have the M50 mkII now which is a lovely bit of kit. As has been mentioned before the self timer on the camera just fires off a burst after a 10 seconds or whatever which is no good to us. However the Cascable app is the dogs danglies. It has an intervalometer which is great and useable as it is but you can't set a delay before the first shot, which isn't a massive issue. But where it comes into its own is the 'Shutter Robot' feature. Basically you put together macros or 'recipes' as they call it, where you can build editable blocks to get the camera to do pretty much anything automatically. For example you could set up an intervalometer chain with a delay before the first shot shot, then take a shot with your settings as normal then you could have the next shot exposure bracketed, the next one back to normal or bracketed the opposite way and so on, it's excellent, you do have to pay to get these features though. All controllable from your phone or ipad, highly recommended
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