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Fast sinking non lead leaders? (24 posts / 3,026 views)
Rb123
Posts: 17
Post #1 9 Jul 2021 17:14
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I'm after a good fast sinking non lead-core leader. I'm sorry if this has been done to death, but with new products coming out all the time, I thought I'd ask.

I did love the Nash stuff but recently have broken two of the Fox blue splicers, as it seems to now be a finer diameter?
Alcatraz Alcatraz
Posts: 1,085
Post #2 9 Jul 2021 17:18
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In reply to Post #1
i cant believe i paid £3.50 or whatever it was for a bit of twisted metal, but have a look at the Fox easy splice threader... much easier than a needle for leadless leaders... i had previously stopped using the gardner as i couldnt splice it (it seemed to have a flat profile off the spool) but it is so much easier with the above mentioned tool....
braders1978 braders1978
Posts: 18,195
Post #3 9 Jul 2021 17:23
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In reply to Post #2
Look for a bobbin threader less than £2,a company called Taimen stock them
NeilH2320
Posts: 147
Post #4 9 Jul 2021 19:12
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In reply to Post #1
Gardner Camflex 👍
Chuffy Chuffy
Posts: 6,794
Post #5 9 Jul 2021 19:40
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In reply to Post #4
Yes that's what I use, good stuff, just use a Korda Splicing Tool to make leaders up
pumba pumba
Posts: 905
Post #6 9 Jul 2021 21:36
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In reply to Post #1
I use the thinking anglers splicing needles with the Nash unleaded, not broken one, once on the needle bunch it all up the thicker end to loosen the weave
NeilH2320
Posts: 147
Post #7 10 Jul 2021 00:20
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In reply to Post #5
The Korda needles are spot on, yeah. Fox splicing needles are poo
scozza
Posts: 18,421
Post #8 10 Jul 2021 06:10
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In reply to Post #3
Will have a look for those, I recently tried the fox lead free, diameter is far too narrow for my ESP needles
Halfcentury
Posts: 1,284
Post #9 10 Jul 2021 08:16
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Another vote for the Gardner Camflex. This is a great product. Nobody should ever need to use leadcore again. Perhaps a full stop to the endless arguments.
Spen89 Spen89
Posts: 507
Post #10 10 Jul 2021 09:06
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In reply to Post #1
I use avid pin down when I use leadfree stuff, very supple and sinks quickly.
braders1978 braders1978
Posts: 18,195
Post #11 10 Jul 2021 10:10
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In reply to Post #7
The easy splice needle that fox do is not poo.It makes splicing leader materials an absolute doddle
ticker ticker
Posts: 682
Post #12 10 Jul 2021 10:29
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In reply to Post #10
avid pin down for me to
Ynnek
Posts: 888
Post #13 10 Jul 2021 11:38
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In reply to Post #12
I've been using avid pin down and PB silkray with absolute satisfaction
KenTownley KenTownley
Posts: 30,593
Post #14 10 Jul 2021 12:13
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The Fox splicing needles are simply a carped up version of the fly tiers' Bobbin Threader, widely available in the webiverse...

HERE FOR INSTANCE.

They make splicing lead-free and leadcore a doddle. Simply put the end of the material on a flat surface and press down on the last four or five inches to flatten it. Now introduce the threader at your chosen spot and slowly push it through until it emerges. Put the end of the material in the gap and pull it back through and trim off the end as necessary. Tip: Try to ensure that the tag end that is going to be pulled through is shorter than the length of the splice. Thus the tag end will be buried under the splice, so there is no need to trim it. Here I am using Gardner Camflex but the Fox Submerge is easier to splice as the weave is not as tight, and heavier. However, it is also thicker than Camflex, which you or may not consider to be a drawback!

Take it slow at first and be patient. It will become easy-peasy in next to no time.







braders1978 braders1978
Posts: 18,195
Post #15 10 Jul 2021 12:18
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In reply to Post #14
They are what I use like I said in post 3,they really do make splicing a piece of cake
KenTownley KenTownley
Posts: 30,593
Post #16 10 Jul 2021 12:50
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Incidentally; you can make dozens of threaders with this stuff, and it's silly cheap.

NeilH2320
Posts: 147
Post #17 10 Jul 2021 14:23
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In reply to Post #11
In fairness I've never used the easy splice needles, so I wasn't referring to them. The needles I was referring to are the original Fox splice needles, specifically sized for their leaders. Having used those types of needles before I know with absolutely certainty they're poo.

I'll have a look at the easy splice needles though
braders1978 braders1978
Posts: 18,195
Post #18 10 Jul 2021 15:00
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In reply to Post #17
They are good,I also use them to pull braid through the eye of a hook if it's a bit tight or the braid has frayed
NeilH2320
Posts: 147
Post #19 11 Jul 2021 12:28
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In reply to Post #18
Or, for the multi-rig. Yeah, I'll definitely take a look 👍
2ambream
Posts: 130
Post #20 11 Jul 2021 17:51
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In reply to Post #13
I use the avid pin down, it's lovely stuff
Leeroyjenkins Leeroyjenkins
Posts: 3,955
Post #21 11 Jul 2021 19:34
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My favorite by far was the NGT liquid wire. They now only seem to sell pre spliced leaders unfortunately, and strangely for NGT, it was worlds better than anything ive used since.
Goldeneye Goldeneye
Posts: 1,252
Post #22 13 Sep 2021 09:52
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In reply to Post #21
I'm thinking about fishing a neutral braided mainline so that I can get better distance than my current thick sinking braid.

What would be better for a leader, as I like to get the line down as much as possible near the hookbait - Would fluorocarbon be better than one of the lead free braided type leaders?

I guess it would be ~1m of braided leader or a longer length of fluoro that would also act as a shock leader for casting.

There is some weed around if that is also a factor!!
biggsyhaulin biggsyhaulin
Posts: 1,667
Post #23 30 Dec 2022 19:24
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Cam flex. ......all you need👍👍
Jslinn Jslinn
Posts: 2,403
Post #24 31 Dec 2022 13:45
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Gardner is superb
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