Morning All,
I'm fishing one water at the moment which is very busy... 10 swims / 40 members so always quite a few on.
The majority all seem to be using the same bait and putting quite a bit in. So I'm just wondering if it's even worth trickling any bait in. I'm on a different bait which I'm 99% sure nobody else is using and can get down the lake almost every week even if I'm not fishing but a lot of bait has been going in and it has been fishing really hard lately since spawning.
Just don't want to make things worse by introducing more bait if they aren't eating it. I've only got 10 kilos at the moment but was going to just try and bait a few spots away from the popular areas to try and avoid people fishing over them.
Any advice appreciated thanks!
I'm fishing one water at the moment which is very busy... 10 swims / 40 members so always quite a few on.
The majority all seem to be using the same bait and putting quite a bit in. So I'm just wondering if it's even worth trickling any bait in. I'm on a different bait which I'm 99% sure nobody else is using and can get down the lake almost every week even if I'm not fishing but a lot of bait has been going in and it has been fishing really hard lately since spawning.
Just don't want to make things worse by introducing more bait if they aren't eating it. I've only got 10 kilos at the moment but was going to just try and bait a few spots away from the popular areas to try and avoid people fishing over them.
Any advice appreciated thanks!
In reply to Post #1
If it's fishing poorly and lots of bait going in I'd say the last thing you want to be doing is putting more in.
Maybe fish solid bags so you're fishing with a bit of attraction round the hook bait. If you start to get bites then put more bait in.
Prebaiting when everyone else is baiting heavily completely defeats the object IMO.
If it's fishing poorly and lots of bait going in I'd say the last thing you want to be doing is putting more in.
Maybe fish solid bags so you're fishing with a bit of attraction round the hook bait. If you start to get bites then put more bait in.
Prebaiting when everyone else is baiting heavily completely defeats the object IMO.
In reply to Post #1
Change lake, im being serious, if not try 3 baits on a hair etc, keep thinking, most carp anglers are sheep
Change lake, im being serious, if not try 3 baits on a hair etc, keep thinking, most carp anglers are sheep
In reply to Post #1
Have been in this position . .either get on the going bait (and let them do the pre-baiting for you) or start to introduce yours everywhere . . .and I mean everywhere. Obvs if you are fishing a 40+ acre pit it may be difficult but if feasible sticking out a kg at the end of a session over the the entire lake (you may need to do this in the dark so as not to p*ss others off) will get them used to / accept / looking for yours and can pay dividends . . .would do this rather than over less well known spots as they are probably less well known for a reason . . .
Have been in this position . .either get on the going bait (and let them do the pre-baiting for you) or start to introduce yours everywhere . . .and I mean everywhere. Obvs if you are fishing a 40+ acre pit it may be difficult but if feasible sticking out a kg at the end of a session over the the entire lake (you may need to do this in the dark so as not to p*ss others off) will get them used to / accept / looking for yours and can pay dividends . . .would do this rather than over less well known spots as they are probably less well known for a reason . . .
In reply to Post #1
Is the bait thats going in Cell, or something similar?
Is the bait thats going in Cell, or something similar?
In reply to Post #4
Depends how confident you are in your bait, I took a bait that was guaranteed never fished there and caught steadily all week, that was birchgrove Shropshire. Stuff what they're doing, why not go in with some chopped tigers and Brazil nuts as well in very small quantities, and never forget the salted pva bag particle approach. I would love a challenge like that .
Depends how confident you are in your bait, I took a bait that was guaranteed never fished there and caught steadily all week, that was birchgrove Shropshire. Stuff what they're doing, why not go in with some chopped tigers and Brazil nuts as well in very small quantities, and never forget the salted pva bag particle approach. I would love a challenge like that .
In reply to Post #6
Nobody uses particles in pva anymore and they definitely don't use sweetcorn in pva
Nobody uses particles in pva anymore and they definitely don't use sweetcorn in pva
In reply to Post #5
No it's a red fishmeal, but I'm very confident my bait is better quality.
No it's a red fishmeal, but I'm very confident my bait is better quality.
In reply to Post #8
What bait is it then?
What bait is it then?
In reply to Post #9
I'm not naming their bait as don't want to be seen to be bad mouthing the company.
Mine is one of Kenny Gate's baits.
I'm not naming their bait as don't want to be seen to be bad mouthing the company.
Mine is one of Kenny Gate's baits.
In reply to Post #10
KG bait u should have said, your catch
KG bait u should have said, your catch
In reply to Post #10
Im pretty sure most bait companies know kennys bait is better quality than theres.
Stick with kennys, imagine he recommended the bait to you based on where you fish. Or if not will recomend something if you have a chat with him.
Either way, use it with confidence
Im pretty sure most bait companies know kennys bait is better quality than theres.
Stick with kennys, imagine he recommended the bait to you based on where you fish. Or if not will recomend something if you have a chat with him.
Either way, use it with confidence
No don't bother, if your confident your baits a winner.
What about tigers? Or hemp n corn? Or pellets in solid bags, be different.
What about tigers? Or hemp n corn? Or pellets in solid bags, be different.
In reply to Post #2
Can only second that. I would even skip boilies and start fishing Tigernuts or maize or maples
Small baits will trick them faster.
Can only second that. I would even skip boilies and start fishing Tigernuts or maize or maples
Small baits will trick them faster.
If there are always people "on" then you shouldn't be baiting up anyway IMO. Prebaiting whilst people are fishing is ignorant and bad etiquette.
If you're confident in your bait then just fish well each session and I'm sure you'll be fine.
If you're confident in your bait then just fish well each session and I'm sure you'll be fine.
In reply to Post #15
Yep, couldn't agree more, it's one of the most ignorant things you could do WHEN others are fishing.
Yep, couldn't agree more, it's one of the most ignorant things you could do WHEN others are fishing.
I don't bait up when people are there. The lake is a really strange shape though like a v shape so there are places you could bait up away from anglers at times. (people do)
All nuts are banned and they don't like you using too much particle as they want the fish to keep growing...
All nuts are banned and they don't like you using too much particle as they want the fish to keep growing...
In reply to Post #17
Sounds like you're on the Res? Always been plenty of selfish anglers on there baiting up while others are fishing.
Sounds like you're on the Res? Always been plenty of selfish anglers on there baiting up while others are fishing.
In reply to Post #18
I actually dont see an issue with that if its not disturbing those fishing. Certainly wouldnt bother me if it was away from my swim. If it not disturbing anyone else, whats the problem?
I actually dont see an issue with that if its not disturbing those fishing. Certainly wouldnt bother me if it was away from my swim. If it not disturbing anyone else, whats the problem?
In reply to Post #15
Why is this?
Not trying to pick an argument, I'm genuinely curious.
As long as you're not disturbing or affecting other anglers swims I can't see a problem.
I'd be more concerned about people knowing the spots I would have been baiting.
Why is this?
Not trying to pick an argument, I'm genuinely curious.
As long as you're not disturbing or affecting other anglers swims I can't see a problem.
I'd be more concerned about people knowing the spots I would have been baiting.
In reply to Post #20
Because carp don't stay in the same swim do they? Most of the time people are setting traps and hoping that the fish turn up. They're much less likely to turn up if there are beds of prebait dotted around. I prebait regularly, but won't when others are fishing or I know they're due down.
Because carp don't stay in the same swim do they? Most of the time people are setting traps and hoping that the fish turn up. They're much less likely to turn up if there are beds of prebait dotted around. I prebait regularly, but won't when others are fishing or I know they're due down.
In reply to Post #1
Complete waste of time, money and effort on the scenario you mention here IMO.
So many other things to potentially consider / brush up on in terms of your overall approach to catching on this venue.
Complete waste of time, money and effort on the scenario you mention here IMO.
So many other things to potentially consider / brush up on in terms of your overall approach to catching on this venue.
In reply to Post #1
If you are fishing a good nutritional bait Every free bait that the carp can eat is a 'confidence booster', to the carp.
As others have said though, do not bait up when others are around or nearby. Try to find areas away from other anglers, or be 'silly sneaky', and simply pile it in around 2 hours before you pack up.
When fishing though, put very little in, fish single baits or stringers.
Are popular areas because anglers fish them, or because they are spots the fish like?
The two may not be the same😉
If you are fishing a good nutritional bait Every free bait that the carp can eat is a 'confidence booster', to the carp.
As others have said though, do not bait up when others are around or nearby. Try to find areas away from other anglers, or be 'silly sneaky', and simply pile it in around 2 hours before you pack up.
When fishing though, put very little in, fish single baits or stringers.
Are popular areas because anglers fish them, or because they are spots the fish like?
The two may not be the same😉
In reply to Post #21
Yeah that makes sense.
I've never pre baited in this way before, I've only ever pre baited when I get to the lake.
I'll select the swim I'm going to start in, get the barrow in there then walk round with a bucket of bait and have a look for a few spots I think could look good for a bite. (Stalking) Generally no more than a handful or so of bait.
Obviously this would be away from other anglers anyway.
Yeah that makes sense.
I've never pre baited in this way before, I've only ever pre baited when I get to the lake.
I'll select the swim I'm going to start in, get the barrow in there then walk round with a bucket of bait and have a look for a few spots I think could look good for a bite. (Stalking) Generally no more than a handful or so of bait.
Obviously this would be away from other anglers anyway.
In reply to Post #24
For me, pre baiting is: putting baits in on the peg you would like to fish on a regular basis.
The approach depends on the type of water and other anglers.
For example: on the local canal I like to pre bait very regularly for longer periods of time. That could be every other day a bucket of bait over a period of a couple of months.
On a lake, I pre bait 3 days in advance every day. First day a bucket over a large area. The other 2 days of pre baiting are more concentrated on the spots I would like to fish.
For me, pre baiting is: putting baits in on the peg you would like to fish on a regular basis.
The approach depends on the type of water and other anglers.
For example: on the local canal I like to pre bait very regularly for longer periods of time. That could be every other day a bucket of bait over a period of a couple of months.
On a lake, I pre bait 3 days in advance every day. First day a bucket over a large area. The other 2 days of pre baiting are more concentrated on the spots I would like to fish.
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