Ci4+ 5500 or Ci4+ 14000 on a Shimano Tribal 12ft 3lb tc rod?
In reply to Post #1
Unless you're trying to hit the max distance possible with that rod I would go for the 5500 size, much more balanced, IMO.
Unless you're trying to hit the max distance possible with that rod I would go for the 5500 size, much more balanced, IMO.
In reply to Post #1
5500 size perfect size
5500 size perfect size
In reply to Post #1
I've got 5500 on my 3lb torrix . It's a nice combo
I've got 5500 on my 3lb torrix . It's a nice combo
I have ci4+ 5500 on my 3.25s so I would definitely use them on a set of 3lbs, unless your fishing huge distances I wouldn't bother with the 14000, I fish upto 120/140 with my 5500 and they are fine for that
Terry Edmonds tested both of them together, on the time of watching the video I thought he said he got a further distance with the bigger reel, but I was mistaken he actually said he casted about the same, so if distance is a thought then don't worry. I haven't used either but I would imagine that the 5500 would fit better.
In reply to Post #1
I use the Ci4 5500 on my 12ft 3.25 and my 10ft 3lb and think they are fine on both.
I use the Ci4 5500 on my 12ft 3.25 and my 10ft 3lb and think they are fine on both.
In reply to Post #6
That all depends on line diameter with a thin line there will be very little difference but the thicker the mono gets then the spool size does make a difference
That all depends on line diameter with a thin line there will be very little difference but the thicker the mono gets then the spool size does make a difference
In reply to Post #8
Sorry I wasn't that specific. Terry was testing with a thin 10lb line on the vid, I do know now that a bigger spool makes a difference but as you mentioned with a thicker line, such as if you were not allowed to use leaders or very light lines (in carp fishing terms)
Sorry I wasn't that specific. Terry was testing with a thin 10lb line on the vid, I do know now that a bigger spool makes a difference but as you mentioned with a thicker line, such as if you were not allowed to use leaders or very light lines (in carp fishing terms)
In reply to Post #1
So what sort of rod would you start using a 14000 reel on then? I presumed the general consensous was a 12 ft rod and upwards
So what sort of rod would you start using a 14000 reel on then? I presumed the general consensous was a 12 ft rod and upwards
In reply to Post #10
I use my 14000's on my 3.5 tc's . Previously to that I used 10000 sized reels (same size as 14000) on my 3.25's.
I use my 14000's on my 3.5 tc's . Previously to that I used 10000 sized reels (same size as 14000) on my 3.25's.
In reply to Post #10
More to do with line diameter and distance required.
More to do with line diameter and distance required.
I would choose the 5500 size over the bigger sizes every time no mater what rod you have got. They are the perfect sized reel for line up to 0.35 dia, you dont need anything else. If your fishing at extreme range then you want lower diameter line anyway for maximum distance so theres no need for the 14000 reels for me at all. I think people only buy the huge egg whisk 14000's as they think they look cool. They look daft and unbalanced imo.
In reply to Post #13
More and more venues have min diameter and leader bans, try fishing at 140 with line of. 40mm and the bigger spool help a lot and 5500 reels look odd and un balanced on 13ft distance rods like trebs, hi's 200, c2d ect.
More and more venues have min diameter and leader bans, try fishing at 140 with line of. 40mm and the bigger spool help a lot and 5500 reels look odd and un balanced on 13ft distance rods like trebs, hi's 200, c2d ect.
In reply to Post #14
I don't think it has to be as thick as 0.4mm i remember comparing 16lb pro clear 0.34mm on 5500 spools and my tech spools and there was a distinct increase in difference with the tech reel plus the retrieve was lot easier, i also tried it with 15lb esp and the increase in distance with the tech was more again.
I don't think it has to be as thick as 0.4mm i remember comparing 16lb pro clear 0.34mm on 5500 spools and my tech spools and there was a distinct increase in difference with the tech reel plus the retrieve was lot easier, i also tried it with 15lb esp and the increase in distance with the tech was more again.
In reply to Post #14
We will have to disagree on that one then. A13 foot rod looks just the same at the reel end as a 12 foot rod so cant really look unbalanced. I could cast just as far with my black tech mags as i could with my castizms when i had the mags. Identical rods with a 3.5oz lead and the same 0.35 line. Ive never seen fisheries demand a certain diameter it has always been a minimum breaking strains that they recommend.
We will have to disagree on that one then. A13 foot rod looks just the same at the reel end as a 12 foot rod so cant really look unbalanced. I could cast just as far with my black tech mags as i could with my castizms when i had the mags. Identical rods with a 3.5oz lead and the same 0.35 line. Ive never seen fisheries demand a certain diameter it has always been a minimum breaking strains that they recommend.
In reply to Post #16
I've had castizms and original iso at the same time and with.37
On both from 120 on the iso cast further, up the diameter to 0.40mm and the difference is even more noticeable and as has been said the retreaval is easier. Also once you start fishing at 140+ you need 4oz weights or more to stop any undertow moving the rig. Fishing thin lines of 8lb bs with a leader at long range for big fish is in my opinion not safe with today's powerful rods.
There is also a 100g difference in weight of the ultegra ci4's being mentioned before line is added, the rods I mentioned earlier feel unbalanced with the small reels on them.
I've had castizms and original iso at the same time and with.37
On both from 120 on the iso cast further, up the diameter to 0.40mm and the difference is even more noticeable and as has been said the retreaval is easier. Also once you start fishing at 140+ you need 4oz weights or more to stop any undertow moving the rig. Fishing thin lines of 8lb bs with a leader at long range for big fish is in my opinion not safe with today's powerful rods.
There is also a 100g difference in weight of the ultegra ci4's being mentioned before line is added, the rods I mentioned earlier feel unbalanced with the small reels on them.
In reply to Post #10
I'm seriously thinking of a set of Ci4 14000 Ultegras for my new Nash Black Op's Scopes in 10ft 3.5.
I have a set of the 5500 XTD Ultegra spod reels and that size reel should be perfect I hope with the new ten footers.
I'm seriously thinking of a set of Ci4 14000 Ultegras for my new Nash Black Op's Scopes in 10ft 3.5.
I have a set of the 5500 XTD Ultegra spod reels and that size reel should be perfect I hope with the new ten footers.
In reply to Post #18
Interesting you're thinking of the 14000s on scopes. I have two different setups - heavier 12 footers for long distance work and 9ft scopes that I use the majority of the time for easily getting about. Looking to upgrade my reels and plan to use one set of reels for both.
Can't decide between the 5500/14000s though. I think the 14000s look better and should probably cast, retrieve, and play better for only a small the price difference, but worry about them being just too big for my 9ft scopes.
Anyone used the ci4s on scopes?
Interesting you're thinking of the 14000s on scopes. I have two different setups - heavier 12 footers for long distance work and 9ft scopes that I use the majority of the time for easily getting about. Looking to upgrade my reels and plan to use one set of reels for both.
Can't decide between the 5500/14000s though. I think the 14000s look better and should probably cast, retrieve, and play better for only a small the price difference, but worry about them being just too big for my 9ft scopes.
Anyone used the ci4s on scopes?
In reply to Post #19
I actually put the 5500's on my 10ft scopes and didn't like them, to me they didn't seem balanced enough and I returned them. I was going to buy the 14000 XTD'S but I didn't think there would be much difference to the 12000 XTB's so I stuck with those which I think are perfect.
I actually put the 5500's on my 10ft scopes and didn't like them, to me they didn't seem balanced enough and I returned them. I was going to buy the 14000 XTD'S but I didn't think there would be much difference to the 12000 XTB's so I stuck with those which I think are perfect.
I use med baitrunners ci4+ 5500 on my 13ft 3lb rods with12lb technium black we have a leader ban and max line dia of 0.37 15lbs max lead size 4 oz. I use 3oz leads. If I need to cast further which I don't really need to do. I would use heavier rods and bigger reels with heavier line to cope with 4oz leads. Leader bans mean you have to re-evaluate what tackle is useable for each situation.
In reply to Post #20
That's interesting. Unbalanced in what way? Too big, too small, too light, too heavy?
That's interesting. Unbalanced in what way? Too big, too small, too light, too heavy?
In reply to Post #22
When I put the 5500's on my 10ft 3.5 BO scopes, the reels looked tiny even on those 10 footers and the feel of it just didn't seem right to me as in too small/lightweight. I just couldn't get on with them. To be honest, I haven't used a reel that small for years and I really should have gone to see them without ordering them first.
When I put the 5500's on my 10ft 3.5 BO scopes, the reels looked tiny even on those 10 footers and the feel of it just didn't seem right to me as in too small/lightweight. I just couldn't get on with them. To be honest, I haven't used a reel that small for years and I really should have gone to see them without ordering them first.
In reply to Post #23
I suppose ''balance" is subjective and you just prefer the larger reels were all different after all.
I suppose ''balance" is subjective and you just prefer the larger reels were all different after all.
In reply to Post #24
Yes, there's probably some truth in that. I haven't used reels that small since using a set of 8010's many years ago and the size of them on that rod seemed alien to me.
Yes, there's probably some truth in that. I haven't used reels that small since using a set of 8010's many years ago and the size of them on that rod seemed alien to me.
In reply to Post #25
And bear in mind that rod has a basket ball hoop for but ring.
And bear in mind that rod has a basket ball hoop for but ring.
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