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Tigernut boilies (26 posts / 5,215 views)
Mrmalica
Posts: 7
Post #1 19 May 2021 14:41
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I need help to create good tigernut boilie because some venues banned the tigernut but boilie can still fish. I cant get the right stuf in the mix so if anyone can help it would be nice...

50/50 mix
Tigernut flour
Crushed tigernuts
Vitamelo
Tigernuts liquid
Sweetener
N-butryc
Betain

This is the stuff i put in to the mix and i dont what realy to put inn to the mix or maybe remove...
bristol bristol
Posts: 2,292
Post #2 19 May 2021 15:47
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In reply to Post #1
20% tigernut flour
20% tigernut meal (slightly coarser)
20% Lamlac
20% semo
20% corn flour/ maize flour

Mrmalica
Posts: 7
Post #3 19 May 2021 16:11
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In reply to Post #2
What about liquids? Amino, sweetener, tiger liquid anything else maybe?
bristol bristol
Posts: 2,292
Post #4 19 May 2021 16:16
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In reply to Post #3
Hydro nut is a good one, as is Cell activator. Hydro wheat/ corn etc would also work
Fivenil Fivenil
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Post #5 19 May 2021 16:29
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Maples and scopex.
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #6 19 May 2021 20:39
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In reply to Post #1
Tigernut flour is a poor ingredient
bristol bristol
Posts: 2,292
Post #7 19 May 2021 22:41
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In reply to Post #6
Surprised you say that Joss, isn't Poachers TnM one of your all time favourite baits? Flour/ meal...it's just the same thing ground down to different levels, is it not? TnM has 50%+ tigernut if I'm not wrong? Ground in house, granted, but still the same thing?
Frenzy Frenzy
Posts: 11,403
Post #8 20 May 2021 07:10
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In reply to Post #7
no mate, the flour goes through a heat treatment process of which can render the product bitter.

Poachers dont use the flour in the TnM
ip100 ip100
Posts: 12,499
Post #9 20 May 2021 10:11
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In reply to Post #6
Agreed
snapper1 snapper1
Posts: 3,101
Post #10 20 May 2021 12:51
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In reply to Post #8
blimey , I did not know that, always thought it was something to look for in a nut bait, thanks.
bristol bristol
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Post #11 20 May 2021 14:01
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In reply to Post #10
The millions of carp that have fallen to nut mixes based around tigernut flour didnt seem to mind mate
ip100 ip100
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Post #12 20 May 2021 14:19
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In reply to Post #10
It's tigernut meal you want to look for
christian
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Post #13 20 May 2021 14:39
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In reply to Post #10
I have used the flour and the meal, if anything I prefer the flour although I do suspect what ever treatment it has makes it into a shelf life product as boilies I have made when using a good proportion of the flour have ended up as short term shelf life, I know all the other ingredients didn't cause this so must have been the tiger nut flour
scaley&dark
Posts: 5,573
Post #14 20 May 2021 14:47
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In reply to Post #8
Is the heat treatment done to prevent even more Oil oxidation within ?

Frenzy Frenzy
Posts: 11,403
Post #15 20 May 2021 15:57
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In reply to Post #11
they may well not mind, but i do

i dont like pot noodles, but i wont feed them to my kids
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
Posts: 3,289
Post #16 20 May 2021 21:17
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What would be a decent tiger nut base mix I see poacher state 50% milled tiger nuts but what else would benefit the mix. Vanilla meal?
Frenzy Frenzy
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Post #17 21 May 2021 07:02
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In reply to Post #16
i cant tell you that can i
darkoL darkoL
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Post #18 21 May 2021 16:48
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In reply to Post #2
bristol how does that roll? ok?
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #19 25 May 2021 18:01
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I thought abs did custom rolls. Turns out all you can do is change the liquids not base mix ingredients
mark1009
Posts: 4,745
Post #20 25 May 2021 20:12
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In reply to Post #19
I once made the mistake of asking" if you were using this bait would you give it any tweaks?" The answer in a slightly indignant voice was"All of our baits are extensively field tested and don't need any tweaks, just use it as it is." Good enough for me.
NOJOAKES NOJOAKES
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Post #21 26 May 2021 15:17
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In reply to Post #20
Seems as soon as you say milled tiger nut in the base mix these custom bait makers don't want to know. Even abs. Do they use milled tiger nut or is that tiger nut flour.
TCarper TCarper
Posts: 4,652
Post #22 26 May 2021 15:52
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In reply to Post #7
Bristol... They are NOT the same thing at all. The difference is massive. Meal is 100% tigers. Flour can be as little as 60% tigers. The flour is a processed entity, sold by the sack, and profits need to be made. A sack of tigers are expensive. £60-£65 for a quality 25kg sack. They are cleaned, but eu natural. You can buy a 25kg sack of tiger nut flour for £35-£40. This is not eu natural, it's been processed, yet still sells for up to half the price nigh on of tigers that came from the ground like that, and have not been through any processes. They are no where near the same thing at all honestly. Just those sums above should make things clearer.

I would not even trust 'meal' from a supplier. These sort of things have to be done in house is the only way to ensure 100% full fat.



Nelbow Nelbow
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Post #23 27 May 2021 13:11
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Any views or opinions on soaking boilies in tiger nut liquid to absorb? Presumably only good for free offerings and not hook bait.
snapper1 snapper1
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Post #24 27 May 2021 16:53
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In reply to Post #23
wHy not hookies
Nelbow Nelbow
Posts: 388
Post #25 27 May 2021 18:29
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In reply to Post #24
Soaking them would absorb lots of water resulting in a very soft texture. I'm guessing that the properties of the bait wouldn't hold on the hair or screw very well when casting.
snapper1 snapper1
Posts: 3,101
Post #26 28 May 2021 07:09
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In reply to Post #25
Try it
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