My little girl is getting bullied. I have to say, it's really sad. Just started secondary school and has got on the wrong side of a real nasty piece of work. My girl is really popular and this other girl isn't. It's a jealousy thing. The other girl is always in trouble at school, disruptive, rude, and generally just nasty. Her parents have admitted that she has anger issues but don't do anything about it. My little girl is so soft it's unbelievable. She would say boo to a goose. The school are involved but they can't seem to get on top of it. My little one never went in yesterday as the day before the bully and her gang singled her out and formed a ring around her while all the other kids started shouting fight fight fight fight. She said she thought she was going to get beaten up. The bell went and all the kids dispersed. She said “I was saved by the bell I guess”. I'm far from a weak man but I'm telling you, I could have cried. She says that she doesn't get to eat as she spends her time keeping out of the way. I have now told her that she is to punch the living daylights out of this piece of **** the next time this happens as I know this will stop it (the bully done this to another girl and got what for from her and it all stopped) but my girl says “I know but I just don't want to” so I said if you don't this will go on for the rest of your school days to which she replied “not going to have a good time then am I” and just walked away.
I'm so sad, I really couldn't begin to think how she feels inside. I'm one of these people who will raise my fists if needed. I have no fear and never have so I get quite frustrated with her as I see weakness and I don't want her to be that way but then that's what makes her who she is. She is a really nice kid. Really nice. Her younger sister is feral and would prob straighten this bully out on her first day if she went to that school but unfortunately she doesn't.
Has anyone else had these issues that may have some advice for us. How far does it need to go before the school has to kick her out? I feel a little bit sorry for the bully as well to be honest as I think she needs help.
I'm so sad, I really couldn't begin to think how she feels inside. I'm one of these people who will raise my fists if needed. I have no fear and never have so I get quite frustrated with her as I see weakness and I don't want her to be that way but then that's what makes her who she is. She is a really nice kid. Really nice. Her younger sister is feral and would prob straighten this bully out on her first day if she went to that school but unfortunately she doesn't.
Has anyone else had these issues that may have some advice for us. How far does it need to go before the school has to kick her out? I feel a little bit sorry for the bully as well to be honest as I think she needs help.
In reply to Post #1
Had it with my daughter in primary school, found schools pretty useless at dealing with it. Tbh learning to deal with it is part of growing up.
About 2 months after my daughter started karate the kid started, and backed down sharpish when confronted with a more confident version of my daughter. The confidence martial arts instill is the biggest factor.
I was gutted when she give it up at 14 (brown belt) but it had a huge impact on how she carries herself
Had it with my daughter in primary school, found schools pretty useless at dealing with it. Tbh learning to deal with it is part of growing up.
About 2 months after my daughter started karate the kid started, and backed down sharpish when confronted with a more confident version of my daughter. The confidence martial arts instill is the biggest factor.
I was gutted when she give it up at 14 (brown belt) but it had a huge impact on how she carries herself
In reply to Post #1
I'd definitely try to get her to do some kind of defensive lessons, whether it's boxing, karate etc.
I'd like to think that schools are on top of this type of thing but I don't believe they are.
Most important thing that you can do is to monitor your daughters behaviours because the last thing you need is for her mental health to deteriorate.
Good luck mate and hope that you can talk her into taking lessons in self defence.
One day I hope she gives the leader and all those poxy hangers on a good fcuking hiding.
I'd definitely try to get her to do some kind of defensive lessons, whether it's boxing, karate etc.
I'd like to think that schools are on top of this type of thing but I don't believe they are.
Most important thing that you can do is to monitor your daughters behaviours because the last thing you need is for her mental health to deteriorate.
Good luck mate and hope that you can talk her into taking lessons in self defence.
One day I hope she gives the leader and all those poxy hangers on a good fcuking hiding.
In reply to Post #1
Hello mate. I'm really sorry to hear that your daughter is being bullied. Secondary school can be really tough as cliques form and some of the mob mentality starts to manifest.
From a teacher's perspective, some things I'd suggest. Hope they help.
Don't advise her to punch anyone. It's a very long and drawn out process to have a student excluded from school but I can tell you that resorting to violence will only make that more likely for your girl rather than the bullies. As unjust as it sounds, it's unfortunately a simple standard. Your girl isn't the villain of the situation here and she mustn't make herself one by hitting another student.
Contact the pastoral year head at school and let them know of any and every incident. If the bully is building up a file of incidents, then this is really valuable in any discussion the school might have about a managed transfer to another school.
Keep an eye on your daughter's phone / social media for any aggressive texts or threats or intimidation. Bullying is an online beast for kids these days and can still be happening even when she's safe at home with you. Screen shot anything and everything and again, share with school. If it gets bad then it becomes evidence for police involvement which can be a very useful deterrent.
Keep talking to her about it. Sounds obvious, but she may go quiet on it all if it persists. If you keep checking with her and letting her know you are aware then she always has an outlet. Encourage her to find a member of staff at school who she trusts and can also talk to. School will have systems for recording bullying and it's a duty of care that we all sign up to follow up on.
Don't call it a weakness that she doesn't get into a fight. That won't help her self confidence. She can show a different kind of strength by doing the right thing and being supported in that. There's more than one way to stand up to bullies without stooping to their level. As said, the bully won't get kicked out for being smacked in the gob even if it's provoked.
Suggest an extra curricular activity that she could try to take her out of the current environment. If she's sporty, maybe there's lunchtime PE related stuff. If she's creative then Art or music or drama based. Just the change of place might get her away from the daily situation. Covid put a lot of restrictions on things but we're starting to get some normality back now.
Apology if this is all obvious or seems preachy. I'm just offering a bit of a pragmatic approach.
Hope she's OK. She clearly has a good dad who is looking out for her.
Hello mate. I'm really sorry to hear that your daughter is being bullied. Secondary school can be really tough as cliques form and some of the mob mentality starts to manifest.
From a teacher's perspective, some things I'd suggest. Hope they help.
Don't advise her to punch anyone. It's a very long and drawn out process to have a student excluded from school but I can tell you that resorting to violence will only make that more likely for your girl rather than the bullies. As unjust as it sounds, it's unfortunately a simple standard. Your girl isn't the villain of the situation here and she mustn't make herself one by hitting another student.
Contact the pastoral year head at school and let them know of any and every incident. If the bully is building up a file of incidents, then this is really valuable in any discussion the school might have about a managed transfer to another school.
Keep an eye on your daughter's phone / social media for any aggressive texts or threats or intimidation. Bullying is an online beast for kids these days and can still be happening even when she's safe at home with you. Screen shot anything and everything and again, share with school. If it gets bad then it becomes evidence for police involvement which can be a very useful deterrent.
Keep talking to her about it. Sounds obvious, but she may go quiet on it all if it persists. If you keep checking with her and letting her know you are aware then she always has an outlet. Encourage her to find a member of staff at school who she trusts and can also talk to. School will have systems for recording bullying and it's a duty of care that we all sign up to follow up on.
Don't call it a weakness that she doesn't get into a fight. That won't help her self confidence. She can show a different kind of strength by doing the right thing and being supported in that. There's more than one way to stand up to bullies without stooping to their level. As said, the bully won't get kicked out for being smacked in the gob even if it's provoked.
Suggest an extra curricular activity that she could try to take her out of the current environment. If she's sporty, maybe there's lunchtime PE related stuff. If she's creative then Art or music or drama based. Just the change of place might get her away from the daily situation. Covid put a lot of restrictions on things but we're starting to get some normality back now.
Apology if this is all obvious or seems preachy. I'm just offering a bit of a pragmatic approach.
Hope she's OK. She clearly has a good dad who is looking out for her.
In reply to Post #4
Thank you for this.
I know I need to hold back at times, I'm just so frustrated and really upset if I was honest. She is such a good girl, so chilled out, a pleasure to be with. She is a child who is far from being an Einstein and has to put in 110% everyday just to keep herself on track with where she should be but she does it. I'm so proud. I really worry that this will effect her schooling in general.
Confiding in a trusted teacher....... thank you for this, I will talk to her about it, I can see her wanting this kind of thing as she looks up to the teachers so I know that this will be easy for her.
Retaliation.........I know. I wish that I had never started this with her, she really doesn't want to retaliate, but I know she feels pressure to because of me. I feel a bit ashamed now. Life is one big learning curve and I have just been taught a lesson.
I have heard of other kids being bullied throughout my girls school life's but have never thought anymore of it as it's not my child. I know I will think differently from now on. I haven't come up against anything like this before in my life that has effected me like this, it almost feels like it's me that is getting bullied.
Thanks to everyone who responded to my post.
Thank you for this.
I know I need to hold back at times, I'm just so frustrated and really upset if I was honest. She is such a good girl, so chilled out, a pleasure to be with. She is a child who is far from being an Einstein and has to put in 110% everyday just to keep herself on track with where she should be but she does it. I'm so proud. I really worry that this will effect her schooling in general.
Confiding in a trusted teacher....... thank you for this, I will talk to her about it, I can see her wanting this kind of thing as she looks up to the teachers so I know that this will be easy for her.
Retaliation.........I know. I wish that I had never started this with her, she really doesn't want to retaliate, but I know she feels pressure to because of me. I feel a bit ashamed now. Life is one big learning curve and I have just been taught a lesson.
I have heard of other kids being bullied throughout my girls school life's but have never thought anymore of it as it's not my child. I know I will think differently from now on. I haven't come up against anything like this before in my life that has effected me like this, it almost feels like it's me that is getting bullied.
Thanks to everyone who responded to my post.
In reply to Post #3
I'd definitely try to get her to do some kind of defensive lessons, whether it's boxing, karate etc
Did the same with mine, Karate throughout her childhood and swimming, gives them something to focus on too
We had problems along the way, there are some horrible kids about and it's the mong parents to blame
As for schools sorting it out, good luck. Round and round with that one, it's common place. You need to be on to them all the time until they are sick of seeing you!
She needs to find likewise friends and try to keep away from them, although easier said then done
There are other ways to deal with these situations of course although they will not be seen as professional by some people, see the parents.
I'd definitely try to get her to do some kind of defensive lessons, whether it's boxing, karate etc
Did the same with mine, Karate throughout her childhood and swimming, gives them something to focus on too
We had problems along the way, there are some horrible kids about and it's the mong parents to blame
As for schools sorting it out, good luck. Round and round with that one, it's common place. You need to be on to them all the time until they are sick of seeing you!
She needs to find likewise friends and try to keep away from them, although easier said then done
There are other ways to deal with these situations of course although they will not be seen as professional by some people, see the parents.
In reply to Post #5
Glad to help mate. PM me any time if I can help at all.
Like I said, she's got a good dad who is looking out for her so she's already one step ahead.
Glad to help mate. PM me any time if I can help at all.
Like I said, she's got a good dad who is looking out for her so she's already one step ahead.
In reply to Post #6
Good luck with a school approach to bullying, you're going need it.
In reply to Post #9
Schools are often soft on bullies citing they are from disadvantage/ broken families and so reluctant to deal.
Schools are often soft on bullies citing they are from disadvantage/ broken families and so reluctant to deal.
In reply to Post #10
I wouldn't trust them to protect something so precious......It's a tough enough job as it is without extra demands placed on staff.
My lad was bullied whilst in primary school and though reluctant at first i used to do exercising with him to help get him fit and did some boxing with him.....Needless to say that after he had built up his confidence to stand up for himself the bully didn't come back for anymore and all because of the colour of his hair, which you can guess was ginger in which he hated it too. For someone to compound something to what he himself hated certainly meant he'd given the bully that bit extra.
Edit - As for the poster then certainly don't feel ashamed for wanting your daughter to stick up for herself.
I wouldn't trust them to protect something so precious......It's a tough enough job as it is without extra demands placed on staff.
My lad was bullied whilst in primary school and though reluctant at first i used to do exercising with him to help get him fit and did some boxing with him.....Needless to say that after he had built up his confidence to stand up for himself the bully didn't come back for anymore and all because of the colour of his hair, which you can guess was ginger in which he hated it too. For someone to compound something to what he himself hated certainly meant he'd given the bully that bit extra.
Edit - As for the poster then certainly don't feel ashamed for wanting your daughter to stick up for herself.
In reply to Post #5
Mate,
We've been through the same thing with my stepson. He's 14, 5'10" and built like a brick outhouse. My first thought was the same as yours but what Mal has said is the right thing to do.
The school have been fantastic and supported him the whole way and he is now flourishing to the point he took my advice of just embarrass them in front of their mates. My other half is a teacher at the school (she gives him no special treatment I may add)
Kid who'd been being billy big ******** said "i bet your ashamed your Mum works here". His response, not as ashamed as your mum was when you came out of her.
He got a cider that night as a well done lol
Mate,
We've been through the same thing with my stepson. He's 14, 5'10" and built like a brick outhouse. My first thought was the same as yours but what Mal has said is the right thing to do.
The school have been fantastic and supported him the whole way and he is now flourishing to the point he took my advice of just embarrass them in front of their mates. My other half is a teacher at the school (she gives him no special treatment I may add)
Kid who'd been being billy big ******** said "i bet your ashamed your Mum works here". His response, not as ashamed as your mum was when you came out of her.
He got a cider that night as a well done lol
Somebody a few years older gave me some **** at school. I nodded and played along...
Some years later my plan culminated in his missus often sniffing coke off my viagra enhanced genitals and dancing for cab fare home.
As demeaning as it may have been for for the young ‘lady', I get a warm feeling inside knowing I didn't resort to violence
*probably not a pearl of wisdom I will share with my 2 sons
Some years later my plan culminated in his missus often sniffing coke off my viagra enhanced genitals and dancing for cab fare home.
As demeaning as it may have been for for the young ‘lady', I get a warm feeling inside knowing I didn't resort to violence
*probably not a pearl of wisdom I will share with my 2 sons
In reply to Post #13
My doctor prescribed viagra for my sunburn
It doesn't help the redness but it does keep the sheets off my legs
My doctor prescribed viagra for my sunburn
It doesn't help the redness but it does keep the sheets off my legs
Always the bully that is looked upon as the one needing a arm around them whilst those that go about their own business get looked upon as the good ones that don't cause any mither. Makes me fcuking sick to think what some of these people who mind their own business go through when contemplating suicide and carrying it through.
Such a shame that there aren't more children around who could find the strength to stand up and give the bully a damned good smacking.
Remember when I was 18 years of age and there was a lad I knew ‘often go out in a group of us' who I was to start off with quite intimidated by him because he was older and fitter than me ‘I was pretty fat at the time'. Little did he realise that I'd started to go off the rails and it wasn't a good time when he started the bullying after a night out ending up in the chippy ‘told me what he was having to eat and that I was paying for it'. I found the strength to tell him that if he didn't shut the fcuk up then I'd give you a beating and dip your face into the fat fryer...,,,Nice as pie ‘pukka lol' afterwards.
Such a shame that there aren't more children around who could find the strength to stand up and give the bully a damned good smacking.
Remember when I was 18 years of age and there was a lad I knew ‘often go out in a group of us' who I was to start off with quite intimidated by him because he was older and fitter than me ‘I was pretty fat at the time'. Little did he realise that I'd started to go off the rails and it wasn't a good time when he started the bullying after a night out ending up in the chippy ‘told me what he was having to eat and that I was paying for it'. I found the strength to tell him that if he didn't shut the fcuk up then I'd give you a beating and dip your face into the fat fryer...,,,Nice as pie ‘pukka lol' afterwards.
In reply to Post #13
Was she accompanying in the brown wings renewal department?....
Was she accompanying in the brown wings renewal department?....
I used to sit in front of Billy big genitalia in maths..
I hated maths..remember those shatterproof clear rulers,this crimp kept hitting my head with aforementioned ruler..
Until I had enough..I turned round,telling this wally do it again ,and see what happens..
He did it again,.
What happened next shocked the bully, the class and myself ,plus poor old maths teacher..
A wooden stool,against human skull,...class pretended that nothing had happened,or the teacher,got a bit of respect from that,no trouble did I have after either..
I hated maths..remember those shatterproof clear rulers,this crimp kept hitting my head with aforementioned ruler..
Until I had enough..I turned round,telling this wally do it again ,and see what happens..
He did it again,.
What happened next shocked the bully, the class and myself ,plus poor old maths teacher..
A wooden stool,against human skull,...class pretended that nothing had happened,or the teacher,got a bit of respect from that,no trouble did I have after either..
In reply to Post #17
Unfortunately because little gets done it's the only way.
Good on ya.
Unfortunately because little gets done it's the only way.
Good on ya.
In reply to Post #7
Thanks, really appreciated.
Thanks, really appreciated.
In reply to Post #6
Too be fair she has really good friends and is really popular but these girls follow her and intimidate them all until my girl is singled out. What doesn't help is due to current conditions they are only allowed in a small section of the school during break time.
She said a couple of days ago that her friend run over to her and warned her not to go up the stairs as the bully is waiting for her up there and is planning on pushing her back down 😧 I mean, Jesus! People die from that!
I will tell you how it all started...... her best friend was being bullied by the same girl and one day after school at the park the bully turned up started threatening her friend and chucked a football at her which broke her finger. My girl rushed over to her friend as the bully started throwing punches and covered her friend so she didn't get hit but ended up getting punched in the face herself. A lady who lives next to the park stopped the bully and got a load of verbal abuse whilst the girls got away. At the hospital (her friend with the broken finger) the staff said they have to inform social services who then contact the school. Of course when the school got involved they got all the girls together and they all had to say sorry to each other. Broken finger girl said it first to the bully and then it was my girls go (the bully wasn't asked to say it before this point) and my girl questioned why she had to say sorry when she had done nothing wrong to which there was no reply. The teacher then just told them all to be nice and forget about it even though the only person to have said sorry was the broken finger girl 🤷♂️. Bully girl now bullies my girl.
My young one now says that she wished she just said sorry. How sad is that.
I'm going to take Mal's route for now as that is the sensible way and I know that both my girls are watching me as to what I'm going to do next. After all, I don't want them to turn out like her.
Too be fair she has really good friends and is really popular but these girls follow her and intimidate them all until my girl is singled out. What doesn't help is due to current conditions they are only allowed in a small section of the school during break time.
She said a couple of days ago that her friend run over to her and warned her not to go up the stairs as the bully is waiting for her up there and is planning on pushing her back down 😧 I mean, Jesus! People die from that!
I will tell you how it all started...... her best friend was being bullied by the same girl and one day after school at the park the bully turned up started threatening her friend and chucked a football at her which broke her finger. My girl rushed over to her friend as the bully started throwing punches and covered her friend so she didn't get hit but ended up getting punched in the face herself. A lady who lives next to the park stopped the bully and got a load of verbal abuse whilst the girls got away. At the hospital (her friend with the broken finger) the staff said they have to inform social services who then contact the school. Of course when the school got involved they got all the girls together and they all had to say sorry to each other. Broken finger girl said it first to the bully and then it was my girls go (the bully wasn't asked to say it before this point) and my girl questioned why she had to say sorry when she had done nothing wrong to which there was no reply. The teacher then just told them all to be nice and forget about it even though the only person to have said sorry was the broken finger girl 🤷♂️. Bully girl now bullies my girl.
My young one now says that she wished she just said sorry. How sad is that.
I'm going to take Mal's route for now as that is the sensible way and I know that both my girls are watching me as to what I'm going to do next. After all, I don't want them to turn out like her.
In reply to Post #20
Good luck with it, I don't have much hope for a resolution via the school.
Lots of boxes to tick to show the ofstead mob but no action.
I don't know about the others, but when I suggested karate, it wasn't so your daughter could execute a perfect roundhouse kick to the temple to settle the matter. Just having the confidence that she could handle it if it came to violence would give her a different outlook, and also mke it less of a sport for the bully
Good luck with it, I don't have much hope for a resolution via the school.
Lots of boxes to tick to show the ofstead mob but no action.
I don't know about the others, but when I suggested karate, it wasn't so your daughter could execute a perfect roundhouse kick to the temple to settle the matter. Just having the confidence that she could handle it if it came to violence would give her a different outlook, and also mke it less of a sport for the bully
In reply to Post #21
Agreed the definition of a bully
a person who habitually seeks to harm or intimidate those whom they perceive as vulnerable
So one way to stop it is to not become a bully but to remove the vulnerability.
Agreed the definition of a bully
a person who habitually seeks to harm or intimidate those whom they perceive as vulnerable
So one way to stop it is to not become a bully but to remove the vulnerability.
In my experience with family and friends kids schools are useless. It may vary. But that is mine.
I would say. Get her some one one one boxing tuition. If you don't know much about that world. She will not be fighting. She won't be sparring . No-one is going to hit her. Its technique and fitness. Nowhere near as rough as people imagine. So a bit of research and you can find ex UK or GB champs in lower weights that train one on one for less than 25 quid an hour. Tell them your story and you would be surprised at how quick they rally round.
She learns power, speed, combinations etc
And all very very quickly.
How do you make a nice kid able to handle a damaged kid?
Make it a sport. She will throw a couple of bangers out with her chin down without thinking.
I would say. Get her some one one one boxing tuition. If you don't know much about that world. She will not be fighting. She won't be sparring . No-one is going to hit her. Its technique and fitness. Nowhere near as rough as people imagine. So a bit of research and you can find ex UK or GB champs in lower weights that train one on one for less than 25 quid an hour. Tell them your story and you would be surprised at how quick they rally round.
She learns power, speed, combinations etc
And all very very quickly.
How do you make a nice kid able to handle a damaged kid?
Make it a sport. She will throw a couple of bangers out with her chin down without thinking.
In reply to Post #23
Good post interesting 👍
(I was told by my dad,back in the 70s,someone hits you,don't back down,and hit em harder,...)...lol
I got no shame or fear saying this,my dad ,was a bully and a thug..end of,how I turned out the way I have,beats me lol..
Good post interesting 👍
(I was told by my dad,back in the 70s,someone hits you,don't back down,and hit em harder,...)...lol
I got no shame or fear saying this,my dad ,was a bully and a thug..end of,how I turned out the way I have,beats me lol..
The trouble with karate is that it takes effing years to be of any use. And even that is not against a proper fighter. Decades. Kids are just punching air for years.
Judo is at least full contact. And is great especially for younguns like 5 upwards. My kid started st 5 and then switched to boxing at 10. To be honest he learnt no actual technique
But he did have confidence and no scared of a tumble.
But your girl is older and has problems right now. Boxing offers the quickest route to genuine ability and self confidence in my opinion.
Judo is at least full contact. And is great especially for younguns like 5 upwards. My kid started st 5 and then switched to boxing at 10. To be honest he learnt no actual technique
But he did have confidence and no scared of a tumble.
But your girl is older and has problems right now. Boxing offers the quickest route to genuine ability and self confidence in my opinion.
In reply to Post #20
Not in the least surprised.
Not in the least surprised.
In reply to Post #24
That advice is alot more meaningful if accompanied with some technique and training.
Especially if we are dealing with a nice kid from a nice background. Most have been brought up not to hit anyone for years as a kid. Then suddenly told macho stuff like ." Dont start it but always finish it" . But no actual ABC practical skills.
Secondary schools are a bear pit and the teachers are useless at what goes on behind the scenes.
My kids head of year told me that they don't tolerate violence bullying or fighting. I pointed out to him that my kid had been in 3 genuine fights in his first year and witnessed many more. And that many are on his school groups instagram LOL
That advice is alot more meaningful if accompanied with some technique and training.
Especially if we are dealing with a nice kid from a nice background. Most have been brought up not to hit anyone for years as a kid. Then suddenly told macho stuff like ." Dont start it but always finish it" . But no actual ABC practical skills.
Secondary schools are a bear pit and the teachers are useless at what goes on behind the scenes.
My kids head of year told me that they don't tolerate violence bullying or fighting. I pointed out to him that my kid had been in 3 genuine fights in his first year and witnessed many more. And that many are on his school groups instagram LOL
In reply to Post #20
Respect your opinion mate
It's sad and very frustrating as a parent. I hope you get it sorted out soon, not good on a child's mental health
Once told my daughter, I will stand by her most things but if she ever bullied anybody I would flatten her myself. Lowest of the low for me
Respect your opinion mate
It's sad and very frustrating as a parent. I hope you get it sorted out soon, not good on a child's mental health
Once told my daughter, I will stand by her most things but if she ever bullied anybody I would flatten her myself. Lowest of the low for me
In reply to Post #27
From a personal viewpoint,I'd love to have done boxing as a kid,but no where within many miles to do that,my son is interested in MMA,but same as the boxing..
Main thing is I bet it instills confidence and self awareness..
From a personal viewpoint,I'd love to have done boxing as a kid,but no where within many miles to do that,my son is interested in MMA,but same as the boxing..
Main thing is I bet it instills confidence and self awareness..
In reply to Post #10
That's because they are full of Left Wing "hug a hoody" teachers.
That's because they are full of Left Wing "hug a hoody" teachers.
In reply to Post #29
What is your nearest searchable town mate?
What is your nearest searchable town mate?
In reply to Post #30
Teachers do not set the policy mate. Its not a wimps job.
Conservatives have been in power for 12 years. Anyway . Its always been like this. A tiny % bully and a tinyb% get bullied. And everyone else knows nothing about it.
Teachers do not set the policy mate. Its not a wimps job.
Conservatives have been in power for 12 years. Anyway . Its always been like this. A tiny % bully and a tinyb% get bullied. And everyone else knows nothing about it.
In reply to Post #31
Launceston or Bude..I reckon..
Would 56 be to old?...I'm very fit for my age,Calisthenics,Isometric, and cycling...?
My son 23,but not as fit...lol,he looks it...but not..!!
Launceston or Bude..I reckon..
Would 56 be to old?...I'm very fit for my age,Calisthenics,Isometric, and cycling...?
My son 23,but not as fit...lol,he looks it...but not..!!
In reply to Post #25
I get your point there, but karate is a broad spectrum, every club is different and the styles they teach is also different.
Goju ryu is more practical than shotokan early on (imo)
Krav maga would be my pick for instant ability, but from the ops initial post I thought karate would be a gentler lead in to that world.
I get your point there, but karate is a broad spectrum, every club is different and the styles they teach is also different.
Goju ryu is more practical than shotokan early on (imo)
Krav maga would be my pick for instant ability, but from the ops initial post I thought karate would be a gentler lead in to that world.
In reply to Post #34
What is krav maga..?
What is krav maga..?
In reply to Post #35
It's a form of mixed martial arts developed by Israeli special forces. Quite similar to karate in a sense but a faster learning cycle and a bit more focus on finishing it quickly.
I've screwed my knees up so can't do any now but I loved martial arts,
It's a form of mixed martial arts developed by Israeli special forces. Quite similar to karate in a sense but a faster learning cycle and a bit more focus on finishing it quickly.
I've screwed my knees up so can't do any now but I loved martial arts,
In reply to Post #36
Is it like that advert,when someone bends the perps head back using a special move,then game over,if so I like it....😆
Is it like that advert,when someone bends the perps head back using a special move,then game over,if so I like it....😆
In reply to Post #36
Ok Krav. But if done correctly again and after quite a while it would be bloody overkill for a little girl.
And its so ****y and macho in some places. Loads of proper ****ers flexing at being trainers. Place near me some pot bellied **** that wears full fatigues and teaches it. A local guy from the boxing gym dumped him on his arse right off the bat. This was about 6 years ago. It may be a bit better policed now but.....
I wouod start with established Olympic full contact sports.
Boxing
Judo
Taekwando
Wrestling
Ok Krav. But if done correctly again and after quite a while it would be bloody overkill for a little girl.
And its so ****y and macho in some places. Loads of proper ****ers flexing at being trainers. Place near me some pot bellied **** that wears full fatigues and teaches it. A local guy from the boxing gym dumped him on his arse right off the bat. This was about 6 years ago. It may be a bit better policed now but.....
I wouod start with established Olympic full contact sports.
Boxing
Judo
Taekwando
Wrestling
In reply to Post #32
I know Paul, I'm really referring to the system not just the teachers, That said it's a well known fact that most teachers are Left Wing both in the school system and the uni system.
I never used the word wimp, did you use it because of my Left Wing reference?
The governing party has no relevance, the system is infested with Lefties come what may, it was when i was at school it was when my children were at school and it's the same today in the school my wife works in, that covers roughly 50 years. Thankfully 99% of pupils dont take a Left Wing path later in life.
As for bullying, the saddest thing a child can live through apart from the death of a parent
I know Paul, I'm really referring to the system not just the teachers, That said it's a well known fact that most teachers are Left Wing both in the school system and the uni system.
I never used the word wimp, did you use it because of my Left Wing reference?
The governing party has no relevance, the system is infested with Lefties come what may, it was when i was at school it was when my children were at school and it's the same today in the school my wife works in, that covers roughly 50 years. Thankfully 99% of pupils dont take a Left Wing path later in life.
As for bullying, the saddest thing a child can live through apart from the death of a parent
In reply to Post #29
Pm mate
Pm mate
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In reply to Post #39
Twaddle mate.
'99% of school kids don't become left wing'. Think about that mate? So that's almost 100% of school kids in your opinion are right wing ? So that's good. Politics is all sorted then. We are now North Korea.
Where do all your left wing teachers come from if no kids ever finish school left wing?
And whilst this isn't quite so ridiculous as saying all teachers are lefties. So does that include all grammar schools and private schools ? OK.
And those in affluent areas?
Eton for example?
Whilst I'm happy to imagine that people who become teachers are more likely to have a left wing ideology than a right wing one. Its not going to be 99% is it? Or anywhere remotely close to that number.
Twaddle mate.
'99% of school kids don't become left wing'. Think about that mate? So that's almost 100% of school kids in your opinion are right wing ? So that's good. Politics is all sorted then. We are now North Korea.
Where do all your left wing teachers come from if no kids ever finish school left wing?
And whilst this isn't quite so ridiculous as saying all teachers are lefties. So does that include all grammar schools and private schools ? OK.
And those in affluent areas?
Eton for example?
Whilst I'm happy to imagine that people who become teachers are more likely to have a left wing ideology than a right wing one. Its not going to be 99% is it? Or anywhere remotely close to that number.
In reply to Post #38
Lol there's a club near me like that, I had a similar experience with a tool of an instructor. Winded for ten minutes by pretty much the first kick any kid in karate will be taught, when he knew when and where it was going and was about to demonstrate why karate is useless
Lots of good clubs but hard to filter them now in the Instagram age
I know a few that went to it from the equally macho muay thai
Lol there's a club near me like that, I had a similar experience with a tool of an instructor. Winded for ten minutes by pretty much the first kick any kid in karate will be taught, when he knew when and where it was going and was about to demonstrate why karate is useless
Lots of good clubs but hard to filter them now in the Instagram age
I know a few that went to it from the equally macho muay thai
In reply to Post #42
99% was a generalization, in retrospect too high
Swap 99% to majority.
Loads of kids leave school and uni with Lefty tendencies, they start earning a good living and suddenly they aren't so Lefty
99% was a generalization, in retrospect too high
Swap 99% to majority.
Loads of kids leave school and uni with Lefty tendencies, they start earning a good living and suddenly they aren't so Lefty
In reply to Post #44
Let's just leave it mate.
It was meant to be about a little girl getting bullied.
Let's just leave it mate.
It was meant to be about a little girl getting bullied.
In reply to Post #45
Possibly 52%
Possibly 52%
In reply to Post #42
Of course it's twaddle. Maybe right wing thinking is too basic and assumes that anyone who disagrees with it is left wing.
Being opposed to a repetitive Tory ideology of maintaining the gap between an 'elite' and the disadvantaged - inherent in years of Tory education policy - is where many teachers in mainstream find themselves. And it's not just the Conservative party. Blairs education, education, education soundbite had a distinctly Tory undercurrent - the abolition of student grants to be replaced by student loans as an example.
Lots of gross generalisations about teachers here. And some truths. It is legislation that dictates whole school approaches to exclusions. However, I don't know any individual teachers who are happy to turn a blind eye to bullying.
Maybe if you want a right wing example to follow, you could look at Boris and his reaction to the priti Patel issue. Inquiry finds her guilty of bullying and breaking ministerial code. He simply says I don't agree and let's her carry on in a key parliamentary role. The story reached its peak during 'anti-bullying week' by the way....
You're allowed to see that as a total joke and not be left wing of course. Just in case anyone is worried
Of course it's twaddle. Maybe right wing thinking is too basic and assumes that anyone who disagrees with it is left wing.
Being opposed to a repetitive Tory ideology of maintaining the gap between an 'elite' and the disadvantaged - inherent in years of Tory education policy - is where many teachers in mainstream find themselves. And it's not just the Conservative party. Blairs education, education, education soundbite had a distinctly Tory undercurrent - the abolition of student grants to be replaced by student loans as an example.
Lots of gross generalisations about teachers here. And some truths. It is legislation that dictates whole school approaches to exclusions. However, I don't know any individual teachers who are happy to turn a blind eye to bullying.
Maybe if you want a right wing example to follow, you could look at Boris and his reaction to the priti Patel issue. Inquiry finds her guilty of bullying and breaking ministerial code. He simply says I don't agree and let's her carry on in a key parliamentary role. The story reached its peak during 'anti-bullying week' by the way....
You're allowed to see that as a total joke and not be left wing of course. Just in case anyone is worried
Anyway,I hope the little girl mentioned sorts the problem out..bullying is horrible at any age..
In reply to Post #47
Plenty of teachers turned a blind eye years ago, sadly I saw this with a few kids when I was at school.
Plenty of teachers turned a blind eye years ago, sadly I saw this with a few kids when I was at school.
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In reply to Post #47
When one of my daughters was at school she was a school buddy, someone other kids could talk to if they had problems, does this sort of thing still exist?
When one of my daughters was at school she was a school buddy, someone other kids could talk to if they had problems, does this sort of thing still exist?
In reply to Post #51
So you kept the other one at home to shadow the missus? Touché. The rubbish doesn't take itself out and once they can't move the appliances to clean behind them you're stuck with a depreciating asset.
Got to lol at martial arts and a kick in the face being the answer to bullying. Maybe cuddling in a cage martial arts; you want them to learn discipline, respect and self control. It's self defence, not enter the bloody dragon.
You could learn a few holds in several martial arts that would tie this bully in knots, there's no need for these young girls to be exchanging blows ffs. But that's not even the point, a better person will defuse a situation peacefully and use self defence as a last resort.
If you take that roll your sleeves up on the cobbles and be a man like (I tell everyone) I was mentality as a parent and encourage them knocking people out these days they will end up stabbed to death or shot.
So you kept the other one at home to shadow the missus? Touché. The rubbish doesn't take itself out and once they can't move the appliances to clean behind them you're stuck with a depreciating asset.
Got to lol at martial arts and a kick in the face being the answer to bullying. Maybe cuddling in a cage martial arts; you want them to learn discipline, respect and self control. It's self defence, not enter the bloody dragon.
You could learn a few holds in several martial arts that would tie this bully in knots, there's no need for these young girls to be exchanging blows ffs. But that's not even the point, a better person will defuse a situation peacefully and use self defence as a last resort.
If you take that roll your sleeves up on the cobbles and be a man like (I tell everyone) I was mentality as a parent and encourage them knocking people out these days they will end up stabbed to death or shot.
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If she's just started then D of E stuff is a while off yet, but it's worth looking at activities she might enjoy that fit the criteria for that. We've focused on martial arts so far, and probably made it sound a bit macho, it really isn't the case at most clubs.
Any activity that encourages her to assert herself is a benefit, if it involves a bit of rough and tumble all the better
If she's just started then D of E stuff is a while off yet, but it's worth looking at activities she might enjoy that fit the criteria for that. We've focused on martial arts so far, and probably made it sound a bit macho, it really isn't the case at most clubs.
Any activity that encourages her to assert herself is a benefit, if it involves a bit of rough and tumble all the better
In reply to Post #52
you want them to learn discipline, respect and self control. It's self defence, not enter the bloody dragon.
These things are massive in martial arts, sure they'll make someone able to respond through muscle memory alone, but none of the kids at my daughters club went off the rails. One kid had a fight at school and ended up doing fitness drills on his own in the corner for a month.
I've seen my daughter in arguments, pressing her point but staying calm, but when you look at the body position you just know you ain't gotta worry about her getting hit, and I know she isn't going to escalate it
A kick to the face in a competition is worth three points, but isn't part of self defence
you want them to learn discipline, respect and self control. It's self defence, not enter the bloody dragon.
These things are massive in martial arts, sure they'll make someone able to respond through muscle memory alone, but none of the kids at my daughters club went off the rails. One kid had a fight at school and ended up doing fitness drills on his own in the corner for a month.
I've seen my daughter in arguments, pressing her point but staying calm, but when you look at the body position you just know you ain't gotta worry about her getting hit, and I know she isn't going to escalate it
A kick to the face in a competition is worth three points, but isn't part of self defence
In reply to Post #52
a better person will defuse a situation peacefully and use self defence as a last resort.
I think we all think that, well at least I hope so
a better person will defuse a situation peacefully and use self defence as a last resort.
I think we all think that, well at least I hope so
Stay calm, ask in a polite manner and if it persists then I'm all for a sparking.
In reply to Post #54
Exactly what I meant mate. If an instructor doesn't favour those things over being able to kick a bully in the face it's not the place to be
Exactly what I meant mate. If an instructor doesn't favour those things over being able to kick a bully in the face it's not the place to be
Think we have gone off track a bit here boys?
I love a fight and have for many years and still do
This is about a young girl being picked on by some horrible **** that is making her life hell. A lot of kids don't want to fight, it's frightens them, as if they are not worried enough ffs. I think it's disgraceful that a child should go to school in this day and age and have to put up with this behaviour, Internet is something else ( don't go on it), real life is out of order. It needs a proper push and it needs backing from the government. If bully's are playing up at school and any other ****ing scrotum, throw them out, job done, if they want to come back, make their **** wit parents apply
I love a fight and have for many years and still do
This is about a young girl being picked on by some horrible **** that is making her life hell. A lot of kids don't want to fight, it's frightens them, as if they are not worried enough ffs. I think it's disgraceful that a child should go to school in this day and age and have to put up with this behaviour, Internet is something else ( don't go on it), real life is out of order. It needs a proper push and it needs backing from the government. If bully's are playing up at school and any other ****ing scrotum, throw them out, job done, if they want to come back, make their **** wit parents apply
In reply to Post #58
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In reply to Post #58
Amen to that.....
Amen to that.....
In reply to Post #58
In theory I agree scozza. But in practice you're just papering over cracks and those kids will end up 10 times worse. Too late for education once they're in jail or dead
Often I blame the parents, but sometimes it can be peer pressure or eagerness to fit in.
In theory I agree scozza. But in practice you're just papering over cracks and those kids will end up 10 times worse. Too late for education once they're in jail or dead
Often I blame the parents, but sometimes it can be peer pressure or eagerness to fit in.
In reply to Post #1
keep your daughter off school until the headmaster/mistress sorts the bullys. had the same problem with my daughter 2 yrs back and told her headmaster until you sort the offenders out ill not be returning my daughter to the school. soon as any child walks through them gates the head has a duty to protect any student. also the head should be in touch with the bullies parents if they have owned up and said she has anger issues.. throwing punches around sorts nothing just adds fire to the flames. it takes a bigger person to walk away.
keep your daughter off school until the headmaster/mistress sorts the bullys. had the same problem with my daughter 2 yrs back and told her headmaster until you sort the offenders out ill not be returning my daughter to the school. soon as any child walks through them gates the head has a duty to protect any student. also the head should be in touch with the bullies parents if they have owned up and said she has anger issues.. throwing punches around sorts nothing just adds fire to the flames. it takes a bigger person to walk away.
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